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Six people have been arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred after videos emerged on the internet apparently showing copies of the Koran being burned.
The racist EDL scum broke long established British law. I hope they get jail time.
Have our neighbors across the pond gone daft? I thought they had freedom of expression over there, just like we do over here:
Yet, six Brits were arrested for burning the Koran and posting the video on the net.
You don't want to exert yourselves and seem to figure that if you just try to get along, everyone else will too.
I am not surprised. The UK does not value free speech. If you speak out against a protected group they arrest and or fine you.
Have our neighbors across the pond gone daft? I thought they had freedom of expression over there, just like we do over here:
Have our neighbors across the pond gone daft? I thought they had freedom of expression over there, just like we do over here:
Yet, six Brits were arrested for burning the Koran and posting the video on the net.
So what race is the Koran?
I am amazed at the charges they've arrested them for.
"Inciting racial hatred"?
Racial hatred?
Racial?
-- Nevertheless this is a very dangerous move against the British democracy, burning a religious book is not an action against its followers, but an action against the religion.
Firstly, there's some reports that say they may be prosecuted under public disorder law but there's also inciting racial hatred in others.
The burners themselves bring upn race talking of themselves as downtrodden "white English." The Koran for them represents everyone who is not "white" or "English."
Depends on how the jury see this, if it's simply the burning of two Korans then freedom of speech has been lessened in the UK. If the 6 raise race and religion themselves then they put themselves before laws on racial incitement and religious incitement.
They were arrested under the 'incitement to hatred' law.
So, why isn't a signifigant portion of the British left in Jail?
I think I have heard that the US has an incitement to hatred law as well but as the European forum seems to have for the last couple of weeks filled with how much Americans hate the Europeans, I will leave you all to plumb your hatred.
The United States federal government and state governments are broadly forbidden by the First Amendment of the Constitution from restricting speech. See, e.g., Gitlow v. New York (1925), incorporating the free speech clause. Generally speaking, the First Amendment prohibits governments from regulating the content of speech, subject to a few recognized exceptions such as defamation[33] and incitement to riot.[34] Even in cases where speech encourages illegal violence, instances of incitement qualify as criminal only if the threat of violence is imminent.[35] This strict standard prevents prosecution of many cases of incitement, including prosecution of those advocating violent opposition to the government, and those exhorting violence against racial, ethnic, or gender minorities. See, e.g., Yates v. United States (1957), Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969).
In a significant victory for freedom of thought and the rule of law, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled yesterday in favor of Michael Marcavage and other Christian evangelists with Repent America, affirming in Marcavage v. Rendell that the state legislature violated the Pennsylvania Constitution when it added “sexual orientation” and “gender identity” to Pennsylvania’s “ethnic intimidation” law (18 Pa. C.S. § 2710), the state’s version of so-called “hate crimes.”
The Foundation for Moral Law, along with attorney Aaron D. Martin, represented Christian evangelists Michael Marcavage, Mark Diener, Randall and Linda Beckman, Susan Startzell, Arlene Elshinnawy, and Nancy Major (below), who in 2004 were arrested and charged under the “ethnic intimidation” law for evangelizing at a Philadelphia homosexual parade.
Several of the "Philly 11" pictured here challenged the constitutionality of Pennsylvania's "ethnic intimidation" law
Several of the “Philadelphia 11″ sued and the Commonwealth Court of Pennsylvania agreed that the law was unconstitutional and struck it down. On appeal the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, in a short per curiam order, agreed with the Commonwealth Court’s opinion and the Christian evangelists’ appellate brief filed by the Foundation.
Judge Roy Moore remarked on this historic case:
“We are very happy that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has ruled in our favor to stop the Governor and a group of corrupt politicians from sneaking a ‘hate crimes’ bill through the Pennsylvania legislature. Preaching to homosexuals about the sin of sodomy should not be made a ‘thought crime’ in Pennsylvania or any other state.”
:roll:
Because the majority of British left haven't been charged with inciting hatred. :doh
The burners themselves bring upn race talking of themselves as downtrodden "white English." The Koran for them represents everyone who is not "white" or "English."
Depends on how the jury see this, if it's simply the burning of two Korans then freedom of speech has been lessened in the UK. If the 6 raise race and religion themselves then they put themselves before laws on racial incitement and religious incitement.
You could toss just about the entire membership of the the respect party if promoting hatred were actually the issue here.
As you could many members of the right :shrug:
When the "incitement to hatred" law is actually applied to ALL who indulge in such, it remains a mockery to the very notion it purports to represent.
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