MaggieD
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Police in Pine Bluff, Arkansas say a 107-year-old man was killed in a shootout with a SWAT team Saturday afternoon. Investigators say that local police responded to a complaint of aggravated assault against Monroe Isadore, who allegedly pointed a gun at two people at a home on West 16th Street in Pine Bluff. When police approached the bedroom door where Isadore was holed up, he fired one shot through the door. No one was hit.
The SWAT team was called in and negotiations with Isadore began. The SWAT team confirmed that Isadore was armed with a handgun by inserting a camera into the bedroom through a window.
After negotiations were unsuccessful, the SWAT team pumped gas in the room from outside the bedroom window, hoping that Isadore would surrender peacefully. Instead, Isador fired more shots at a SWAT entry team, who threw a "distraction device" into the room after breaching the door. Isadore continued shooting at the entry team, who finally shot and killed him.
Local police said that the investigation is ongoing, but provided no further details.
Read more: 107-year-old man killed by SWAT team in Arkansas | Fox News
a 107 year old with a gun, who is shooting at you, is a deadly threat....the use of deadly force to end that threat is valid and proper.
it's sad how it turned out, but the 107 year old shouldn't be shooting at folks... his actions caused them to defend themselves with valid deadly force.
Oh, let's see -- they could have popped in teargas; stun grenades. They could have waited it out. It'd only be 30 minutes before he'd have to pee, after all. I mean, really. Negotiate? Knockout gas? Something besides rushing the old man and killing him dead? Really?
Oh, let's see -- they could have popped in teargas; stun grenades. They could have waited it out. It'd only be 30 minutes before he'd have to pee, after all. I mean, really. Negotiate? Knockout gas? Something besides rushing the old man and killing him dead? Really?
After negotiations were unsuccessful, the SWAT team pumped gas in the room from outside the bedroom window, hoping that Isadore would surrender peacefully. Instead, Isador fired more shots at a SWAT entry team, who threw a "distraction device" into the room after breaching the door.
WTF? That's the resolution to a problem with a 107-year-old man, for God's sake?
WTF? That's the resolution to a problem with a 107-year-old man, for God's sake?
:shrug: Seems like suicide by cop.
WTF? That's the resolution to a problem with a 107-year-old man, for God's sake?
Oh, let's see -- they could have popped in teargas; stun grenades. They could have waited it out. It'd only be 30 minutes before he'd have to pee, after all. I mean, really. Negotiate? Knockout gas? Something besides rushing the old man and killing him dead? Really?
Probably shooting the man was legal. Personally I think it was probably very unnecessary and should not be legal.
The police shooting a man that was firing at other citizens and cops should be illegal? What should they have done, gave him a big bear hug to stop him? Let a few cops die on the way?
This is definitely a candidate for the most justified police shooting in history. And don't act like this same exact thing doesn't happen in Germany. I remember a few years back when the special response Polizei blew a guy away because he had an assault rifle and pointed it at them.
Sure, if he was shooting at passersby and there was clear and present deadly danger and people at unavoidable risk...
But that is not the way I read it. It sounded as though it was the type of situation you could just sit and wait out. Block the street. If you wanted to accelerate it lob in some teargas or some such.
Investigators say that local police responded to a complaint of aggravated assault against Monroe Isadore, who allegedly pointed a gun at two people at a home on West 16th Street in Pine Bluff. When police approached the bedroom door where Isadore was holed up, he fired one shot through the door.
Read more: 107-year-old man killed by SWAT team in Arkansas | Fox News
WTF? That's the resolution to a problem with a 107-year-old man, for God's sake?
Either you were too lazy to read the article, or your reading comprehension is lacking.
They then proceeded with:
- Negotiation FAILURE (suspect responds with gunfire)
- Tear gas FAILURE (suspect responds with gunfire)
- Flash bangs (distraction device in article) FAILURE (suspect responds with gunfire)
When he continued firing at them, they had no other choice but to shoot back. No law enforcement agency on the planet would've done more. You are wrong as hell.
Thing is, if SWAT hadn't responded with their full body armor etc., another solution might have been found.
Perhaps it's because when someone is firing a gun from inside a home, there's no assurance it won't go right through the house walls, etc. and kill some innocent on the street. Having thought about that, I can understand it more.
Edit: You'd think there'd be a knock-out gas grenade...?
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