For all the South-haters...

[Aderleth]

The south has the best food in the country and the near the top in weather; outside of hurricanes and high humidity. The best cost of living. The best beaches.

Wow are those two things ever not true. Come to California if you want the best food in the country (excepting possibly New York) and the best weather.

 

[Aderleth]

Have to disagree with you on the food. NYC and LA are loaded with immigrants from all over the world. While the South does have some wonderful food, it has nowhere near the variety of NYC and LA. And in NYC, there are plenty of places to get southern cooking thanks to the large # of african americans who moved up north from down south.

You forgot about SF. We have immigrants from pretty much everywhere, and the restaurant industry here is absurdly cutthroat. I'm told SF is one of the top five restaurant destinations in the world (others on the list: New York, Paris, I think Sydney Australia, and I forget the last one). For example, this is what I had for lunch today:

Home Page - Sushirrito San FranciscoA Fresh Way to Roll – Sushirrito San Francisco

And this is where I'm having appetizers and drinks in a few hours:

http://www.baragricole.com/#/food/

 

[APACHERAT]

People hate Carter because of this: Operation Eagle Claw

Actually you can blame the Democrats for allowing our military being in disrepair, a hollow military.

Those of us who spent some time serving our country know why that mission failed.

The Reagan administration made some changes in the organization of the military so such embarrassing missions like that don't occur again.

Operation Eagle Claw only helped Jimmy Carter being defeated in 1980.

But you have to credit Carter as Cn'C, unlike the current Cn'C, the buck stopped at Carter's desk. Carter didn't blame the military or Nixon.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Too bad we couldn't ask their slaves about them.

Lot of those slaves about anymore, are they? Hat tip the Declaration of Independence, War of Independence, the Constitution, through a system they created, that those three were the guts of...eh? I mean Jefferson the DOI, Washington the War of Independence and Madison the Constitution. And wow, allowed us to all, of all colors, to be wealthy, at bare minimum well fed in the contemporary era. Each gave much for the time...then a sweet pool shot, setting the table up for all those next, the shots to come. Truly gave commiserate encompassing that time.

Can you pick out a more magnificent trio?

They were advocates for the slow change. Conceivably it all went too slow at the beginning, and feasible that it went too fast past middle, 1865 forward, accelerating into modern times with a rapidity more than we showed proper maturity for, having lost Lincoln. After WW2 nobody else stepped forward, not after we helped kick Germany then Japan's butts...just betcha the decedents of slaves would probably be nowhere more than here. We still have people sneaking in, always a good sign, despite consequences.

 

[Carleen]

... who think we're all a bunch of slack-jawed racist hicks who live in barns...


...here's a look at the real, modern South!



North Carolina...
The Outer Banks


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Caesar's Head in the mountains...

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The North Carolina Zoological Park, a huge animal preserve...


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The Carolina Rennaissance Fair...


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South Carolina...

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I loved South Carolina! Great food and plenty to see.

 

[Linc]

You'll remember me advising the Democrats to have a mid-term convention next summer. However, by then, it will be too late. RepubLies have several conventions a year that Dems can'tor match. Take the NRA extremists who have silenced a new Moral Majority, their own membership on background checks which ban registries. Then there's CPAC, with all of these repuke conventions in the south.

No that isn't so. I was still in the military then and although it failed, most people gave him credit for trying to do something about hostages. One can fault Jimmy Carter while president for a lot of things, this isn't one of them. I do not see how a person can hate any president, a person may disagree with his policies or what he did or did not do, but hate?

 

[Superfly]

I think we can agree that each region has really good food, and each region specializes in their certain foods. The south is best for home cooking, any kind of shrimp dish, chicken. Good old artery clogging goodness. NY - not even in the running. Just leave NYC out of the running because it's not fair to the rest of us. There are too many good restaurants there, too many different kinds of cuisine. Texas has the best beef (but you have to deal with going to Texas to get it!), Southwest has Tex-Mex, California has healthier cuisine. Never been to SF but I would have to think that they have a lot of seafood choices there, as well.

But if I had to choose, I'd stick with southern food. Low country boils, jumbo shrimp as sweet as candy, banana pudding, key lime pie, fresh hot biscuits. Man, I can feel my arteries clogging just sitting here. :lol:

 

[Perotista]

You'll remember me advising the Democrats to have a mid-term convention next summer. However, by then, it will be too late. RepubLies have several conventions a year that Dems can'tor match. Take the NRA extremists who have silenced a new Moral Majority, their own membership on background checks which ban registries. Then there's CPAC, with all of these repuke conventions in the south.

I have never belonged to the NRA and never will. But I have always looked very leery at congress whenever they try to pass any new form of gun control. They is so many laws about guns on the books now it is ridicules and having so many, they can’t all be enforced. I do have to hand it to your girl from North Dakota, Heidkamp. She impresses me as a Senator who will put the people she represents, her state first. That is refreshing.

I’m sorry to see Max Baucus retire, I always thought he had a level head. I hope Pryor retains his seat in Arkansas but I also hope Landrieu goes. She hasn’t represented the people of Louisiana in a long time, she has represented the Democratic Party instead.

 

[Goshin]

racism, heh... I see white grandparents with their mixed-race grandchildren every time I go shopping...

heres a Miss'pi family...

In the first comprehensive accounting of multiracial Americans since statistics were first collected about them in 2000, reporting from the 2010 census, made public in recent days, shows that the nation’s mixed-race population is growing far more quickly than many demographers had estimated, particularly in the South and parts of the Midwest. That conclusion is based on the bureau’s analysis of 42 states; the data from the remaining eight states will be released this week.

In North Carolina, the mixed-race population doubled. In Georgia, it expanded by more than 80 percent, and by nearly as much in Kentucky and Tennessee. In Indiana, Iowa and South Dakota, the multiracial population increased by about 70 percent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/us/20race.html?_r=0

 

[Linc]

But Landrieu and Hagan are both up after their vote. Ayotte is down and is now on her way out. Begich and Murkowski are both in trouble in a state like Alaska. Repub women will make the difference again. Baucus is a crooked POS and Schweitzer will be a superb replacement.

I have never belonged to the NRA and never will. But I have always looked very leery at congress whenever they try to pass any new form of gun control. They is so many laws about guns on the books now it is ridicules and having so many, they can’t all be enforced. I do have to hand it to your girl from North Dakota, Heidkamp. She impresses me as a Senator who will put the people she represents, her state first. That is refreshing.

I’m sorry to see Max Baucus retire, I always thought he had a level head. I hope Pryor retains his seat in Arkansas but I also hope Landrieu goes. She hasn’t represented the people of Louisiana in a long time, she has represented the Democratic Party instead.

 

[justabubba]

The reason I felt the need to post this stuff, is there's a certain clique of ignorant wretches who like to pretend there is nothing south of the Mason-Dixon line but barns and cows and slack-jawed inbred racist hicks.

damn it
it's people like you, who go to great lengths to disabuse them of those ignorant notions
stop it
they will then decide it might be worth looking at the new (air conditioned) south for themselves
and then we will have their sorry asses down here, messing the place up, putting mayonnaise in their pinto beans, and other unimaginable heathen acts

just leave it alone
let them continue to think their local stinkhole is G_d's paradise
so they stay the **** home

 

[GottaGo]

You forgot about SF. We have immigrants from pretty much everywhere, and the restaurant industry here is absurdly cutthroat. I'm told SF is one of the top five restaurant destinations in the world (others on the list: New York, Paris, I think Sydney Australia, and I forget the last one). For example, this is what I had for lunch today:

Home Page - Sushirrito San FranciscoA Fresh Way to Roll – Sushirrito San Francisco

And this is where I'm having appetizers and drinks in a few hours:

Bar Agricole

Scoma's on the Wharf. Worth flying 2800 miles for!
Scoma's Restaurant - Freshest Seafood in San Francisco - Family Traditions - Friendly Services - Since 1965

 

[Arbo]

The reason I felt the need to post this stuff, is there's a certain clique of ignorant wretches who like to pretend there is nothing south of the Mason-Dixon line but barns and cows and slack-jawed inbred racist hicks.

That's because the north is full of ignorant wretches, even more so the northeast and northwest.

 

[sangha]

You forgot about SF. We have immigrants from pretty much everywhere, and the restaurant industry here is absurdly cutthroat. I'm told SF is one of the top five restaurant destinations in the world (others on the list: New York, Paris, I think Sydney Australia, and I forget the last one). For example, this is what I had for lunch today:

Home Page - Sushirrito San FranciscoA Fresh Way to Roll – Sushirrito San Francisco

And this is where I'm having appetizers and drinks in a few hours:

Bar Agricole

I'll have one Porkivore, please!

 

[polgara]

I have never belonged to the NRA and never will. But I have always looked very leery at congress whenever they try to pass any new form of gun control. They is so many laws about guns on the books now it is ridicules and having so many, they can’t all be enforced. I do have to hand it to your girl from North Dakota, Heidkamp. She impresses me as a Senator who will put the people she represents, her state first. That is refreshing.

I’m sorry to see Max Baucus retire, I always thought he had a level head. I hope Pryor retains his seat in Arkansas but I also hope Landrieu goes. She hasn’t represented the people of Louisiana in a long time, she has represented the Democratic Party instead.

Good afternoon, Pero. :2wave:

Wasn't Baucus one of the architects of the ACA, also known as Obamacare? Now he is calling it a "trainwreck?" Why didn't he recognize that long before now, and is retiring? I agree with you on Landrieu, who is probably hoping her voters have a very short memory! Kudos to Heidkamp, who is doubtless taking a lot of heat from the Democrat Party because she voted the way her constituents wanted her to. I hope they remember her bravery, and return her to office! Maybe the old-timers will see the handwriting on the wall, and start to truly represent their voters' wishes? It is to be hoped for..... :thumbs:

 

[Linc]

And the NRA leaders are at this present moment awareness stating as fact that Northern Aggression started the Civil War. Sam Houston is rolling over in his grave.

That's because the north is full of ignorant wretches, even more so the northeast and northwest.

 

[Linc]

Heitkamp has given the best defense of Obamacare I have heard. Being a stage 4 Breast Cancer survivor has a way of redirecting people. North Dakota is more Blue to the East side. She convinced the older ND population on Obamacare. She is also great on energy, ignoring all the problems with fracking. I don' regret donating to her and Donnelly from Indiana.

Good afternoon, Pero. :2wave:

Wasn't Baucus one of the architects of the ACA, also known as Obamacare? Now he is calling it a "trainwreck?" Why didn't he recognize that long before now, and is retiring? I agree with you on Landrieu, who is probably hoping her voters have a very short memory! Kudos to Heidkamp, who is doubtless taking a lot of heat from the Democrat Party because she voted the way her constituents wanted her to. I hope they remember her bravery, and return her to office! Maybe the old-timers will see the handwriting on the wall, and start to truly represent their voters' wishes? It is to be hoped for..... :thumbs:

 

[Perotista]

But Landrieu and Hagan are both up after their vote. Ayotte is down and is now on her way out. Begich and Murkowski are both in trouble in a state like Alaska. Repub women will make the difference again. Baucus is a crooked POS and Schweitzer will be a superb replacement.

I think the vote will hurt Landrieu more than Hagan. Remember Landrieu also has the bribery scam above her head as she agreed to vote for Obamacare against a good 60% of how the people of Louisiana wished. But as I have often stated, it will all depend on whom the GOP nominates and their history of nominating senate candidates who can actually win isn't all that great. I would be happy with Schweitzer as I think he has done a good job for Montana, although I disagree with your assessment of Baucus.

I haven't paid much attention to Alaska, but according to both Sabato and Cook, Begich is in deep trouble, but again if the GOP runs someone like Miller, they can again kiss off a seat they should have won much like in Missouri last year. Sometimes I think the Republican nomination process is the best friend the Democrats have.

But for the last couple of weeks I have been paying attention to Georgia politics. It looks like the Democrats as of this point in time have two people in mind for Chambliss's seat. John Barrow and Michelle Nunn. I like both of them and if the GOP nominate Broun, I for one will vote for either Barrow or Nunn.

 

[Ray410]

The South has been mentioned negatively recently because Obama and the Liberals are looking for another repository of blame for things Liberals believe hinder their progress toward their Socialist utopia. Looking for things that uniquely represent the America that the Liberals hate so much so they can be accused and destroyed.

Over the years, I've spent quite a lot of time in the South from Texas to Florida, lived in the South a couple years when I was in the service, traveled extensively through the South by train over the years and my conclusion is that no American can long be in the South without falling in love with the people and the country. The South is America's home and you feel good just being there. For the most part, Southern people take you in. That cannot be said for the more Liberal areas of the country, particularly the Liberal elitist Northeastern states.

 

[Perotista]

Good afternoon, Pero. :2wave:

Wasn't Baucus one of the architects of the ACA, also known as Obamacare? Now he is calling it a "trainwreck?" Why didn't he recognize that long before now, and is retiring? I agree with you on Landrieu, who is probably hoping her voters have a very short memory! Kudos to Heidkamp, who is doubtless taking a lot of heat from the Democrat Party because she voted the way her constituents wanted her to. I hope they remember her bravery, and return her to office! Maybe the old-timers will see the handwriting on the wall, and start to truly represent their voters' wishes? It is to be hoped for..... :thumbs:

Yeah, Baucus was one of those architects of Obama care and yes he is retiring. But over all he has with that exception been pretty true to Montana and its people. At least he didn't need to be bribed and was honest in his portrayal of his part in Obama care. No the handwritting isn't on the wall, that is unless the voters send these folks who put party over the people who elected them to the dust bin of history, you will continue to get Republicans and Democrats in congress instead of Americans.

Now I can respect senators like Schumer and Fienstein, although they vote and most of their policies are 100% opposite of me, they do a good job of voting their states and peoples wishes.

 

[Linc]

Since the Senate is my passion in politics, I must subconsciously support the filibuster. Louisiana may have the two most crooked Senators of all. And they like it. As they liked the Longs. Rank still has it's privilege as you well know. I just don' believe that Senator Landrieu has kept that aspirin between her legs in her rise to the top.

I think the vote will hurt Landrieu more than Hagan. Remember Landrieu also has the bribery scam above her head as she agreed to vote for Obamacare against a good 60% of how the people of Louisiana wished. But as I have often stated, it will all depend on whom the GOP nominates and their history of nominating senate candidates who can actually win isn't all that great. I would be happy with Schweitzer as I think he has done a good job for Montana, although I disagree with your assessment of Baucus.

I haven't paid much attention to Alaska, but according to both Sabato and Cook, Begich is in deep trouble, but again if the GOP runs someone like Miller, they can again kiss off a seat they should have won much like in Missouri last year. Sometimes I think the Republican nomination process is the best friend the Democrats have.

But for the last couple of weeks I have been paying attention to Georgia politics. It looks like the Democrats as of this point in time have two people in mind for Chambliss's seat. John Barrow and Michelle Nunn. I like both of them and if the GOP nominate Broun, I for one will vote for either Barrow or Nunn.

 

[Linc]

When does voting for the good of your country become more important than a statewide poll of manipulated voters or being scored by a scorched earth NRA?

 

[Superfly]

The South has been mentioned negatively recently because Obama and the Liberals are looking for another repository of blame for things Liberals believe hinder their progress toward their Socialist utopia. Looking for things that uniquely represent the America that the Liberals hate so much so they can be accused and destroyed.

Over the years, I've spent quite a lot of time in the South from Texas to Florida, lived in the South a couple years when I was in the service, traveled extensively through the South by train over the years and my conclusion is that no American can long be in the South without falling in love with the people and the country. The South is America's home and you feel good just being there. For the most part, Southern people take you in. That cannot be said for the more Liberal areas of the country, particularly the Liberal elitist Northeastern states.

Well, you had me until you started talking about "liberal elitist Northeastern states." The South takes you in, regardless of political affiliation. If you are a Republican, you're in like Flynn. If you are a Democrat, then they'll pat you on the head and say, "Bless your heart!" and try to enroll you in Conservative Indoctrination Classes.

 

[Ray410]

Well, you had me until you started talking about "liberal elitist Northeastern states." The South takes you in, regardless of political affiliation. If you are a Republican, you're in like Flynn. If you are a Democrat, then they'll pat you on the head and say, "Bless your heart!" and try to enroll you in Conservative Indoctrination Classes.

I think you misread my post. I didn't mention political party, I said "Southern people take you in."

 

[Jredbaron96]

There's Elephants in North Carolina.



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