for all posters zimmerman , guilty or innocent ?

[ChrisL]

Do "you" know what the heck you are talking about? I don't consider myself uninformed, as I followed this case closely.....Just because you people did not give credence to Rachael's testimony, doesn't mean that the rest of us didn't believe her.....

What you believe and what you feel are irrelevant to the outcome of the trial. The trial is based on evidence and testimony, not feelings and beliefs.

 

[Thrilla]

Ok--let me phrase it in a different way. This verdict of Not Guilty matters to a hell of a lot of people....

yes, humans , from time to time, have a problem accepting reality.

 

[Juanita]

Try reading the post you quoted again. Look for the words "community punchbowl".

Well get the hell out of the dang bowl then...

 

[davidtaylorjr]

That it was all propaganda........

No just that picture she posted.

 

[X Factor]

Do "you" know what the heck you are talking about? I don't consider myself uninformed, as I followed this case closely.....Just because you people did not give credence to Rachael's testimony, doesn't mean that the rest of us didn't believe her.....

Jury decides the credibility of the witnesses and let's be honest, you'd believe anyone who said something about this case you agree with.

 

[Thrilla]

Do "you" know what the heck you are talking about? I don't consider myself uninformed, as I followed this case closely.....Just because you people did not give credence to Rachael's testimony, doesn't mean that the rest of us didn't believe her.....

I gave her credence... right up until I heard her testimony.

she didn't help the prosecution one iota.

 

[Juanita]

Well none of our opinions really matter, but opinions that show no concern for the law and that require dishonesty to support are especially useless.

Yep--the law that was expressed in the jury instructions SUCKS......

 

[Arbo]

hi sweety:2wave:

l cant know the US laws better than you of course

but l see following provoking and stalking a person and then killing him because he was provoked to attack you and then being found not guilty is not fair either

police tells him to stop following but he ignores

You keep blurting out twisted crap that shows you know nothing about the case. You have refused to watch a video that shows you wrong on many assumptions as well.

Why do you desire to remain uninformed?

 

[Juanita]

So, what should the jury have done to make you happy? Bowed to pressure regardless of whether they felt the state proved the case?

Three of those jurors went into that jury room with their verdict of Not Guilty already reached..Three did not.....Those three capitulated on one point and one point only, based on jury instructions which incorporated the stand your ground law---the mindset of Zimmerman at the second that he pulled the trigger.... I would bet that they now regret their decision, but it's too dam late..... There should have been a hung jury at worst, a manslaughter verdict at best.......

 

[Juanita]

What you believe and what you feel are irrelevant to the outcome of the trial. The trial is based on evidence and testimony, not feelings and beliefs.

Yes, it is supposed to be based on evidence and "testimony"....

 

[TurtleDude]

Yep--the law that was expressed in the jury instructions SUCKS......

really? do educate us on where the jury instructions were contrary to the laws of florida and what reversible error the court engaged in

 

[TurtleDude]

Yes, it is supposed to be based on evidence and "testimony"....

You really don't appear to understand trials. The Jury is called the TRIER OF THE FACTS. The TOTF determines the CREDIBILITY of the witnesses and gives the testimony of such witnesses the weight the TOTF determines is proper

 

[Josie]

Yes, it is supposed to be based on evidence and "testimony"....

And the jury decides what testimony makes sense and what doesn't.

 

[X Factor]

Three did not.....Those three capitulated on one point and one point only, based on jury instructions which incorporated the stand your ground law---the mindset of Zimmerman at the second that he pulled the trigger.... I would bet that they now regret their decision, but it's too dam late..... There should have been a hung jury at worst, a manslaughter verdict at best.......

Manslaughter? Why would you who thinks Zimmerman is a wannabe Klansman that hunted a black child down just so he could kill him because he's black be satisfied with a manslaughter verdict?

 

[ChrisL]

Yes, it is supposed to be based on evidence and "testimony"....

As it was. Of course the reliability of people giving testimony is always taken into account too.

 

[Thrilla]

Yep--the law that was expressed in the jury instructions SUCKS......

so you have a problem with people defending themselves.

mmmk... good luck with that.

 

[Juanita]

Jury decides the credibility of the witnesses and let's be honest, you'd believe anyone who said something about this case you agree with.

No--that juror who spoke out showed her contempt for Rachael --her prejudice about "those" people, how "they" think and "their" environment......

 

[Thrilla]

really? do educate us on where the jury instructions were contrary to the laws of florida and what reversible error the court engaged in

you're a racist!






sorry, not sure why i said that.... it felt appropriate....i guess i got caught up in the fad :lol:

 

[Thrilla]

No--that juror who spoke out showed her contempt for Rachael --her prejudice about "those" people, how "they" think and "their" environment......

after listening to the utterly dumb woman... I have contempt for her too.

 

[Juanita]

I gave her credence... right up until I heard her testimony.

she didn't help the prosecution one iota.

That was the prosecution's fault for not properly preparing her and shouldn't have biased her testimony....Her hostility to West was due to their interaction during deposition....He baited her---"can you speak English?" when he had been interacting with her for months...

 

[TurtleDude]

As it was. Of course the reliability of people giving testimony is always taken into account too.

and having sat through a couple hundred criminal trials and reviewed the transcripts of many of those trials, I can tell you you cannot often judge the credibility of a witness merely by what his testimony says. Body language, tone of voice etc is incredibly important in telling if a witness is telling the truth or not.

 

[Josie]

That was the prosecution's fault for not properly preparing her and shouldn't have biased her testimony....Her hostility to West was due to their interaction during deposition....He baited her---"can you speak English?" when he had been interacting with her for months...

He asked that because the prosecution was implying that she didn't understand English well.

 

[TurtleDude]

you're a racist!






sorry, not sure why i said that.... it felt appropriate....i guess i got caught up in the fad :lol:

LOL only is stupid and irrational is a new race (or a protected characteristic under Title VII)

 

[ecofarm]

That was the prosecution's fault for not properly preparing her and shouldn't have biased her testimony....

One can put lipstick on a pig, but not on a Hut.

 

[ChrisL]

and having sat through a couple hundred criminal trials and reviewed the transcripts of many of those trials, I can tell you you cannot often judge the credibility of a witness merely by what his testimony says. Body language, tone of voice etc is incredibly important in telling if a witness is telling the truth or not.

Yes, I'm sure being there in person and actually seeing a witness testify tells you a lot more than reading the transcripts or watching bits and pieces on television.