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just wondering what both sides think
No wall because it's ****ing stupid.
I know you want everything to be about Trump, but it isn't.That was the deal everyone agreed on in June. Trump even expanded the number of DACA resolutions that the Democrats asked for. However, in the end the deal had to be shot down because agreeing to a border deal might have been seen as a win for Trump and, without regard to whether a deal is good for the American people or not, if it so much as might be good for Trump it can't be allowed to happen.
That was the deal everyone agreed on in June. Trump even expanded the number of DACA resolutions that the Democrats asked for. However, in the end the deal had to be shot down because agreeing to a border deal might have been seen as a win for Trump and, without regard to whether a deal is good for the American people or not, if it so much as might be good for Trump it can't be allowed to happen.
I know you want everything to be about Trump, but it isn't.
The Republicans promised a DACA vote and then they reneged, so Democrats have no reason to believe them now.
They made the mess and now they own it.
I know you want everything to be about Trump, but it isn't.
The Republicans promised a DACA vote and then they reneged, so Democrats have no reason to believe them now.
They made the mess and now they own it.
On June 21, 2018, the House voted 231-193 to reject an immigration bill proposed by Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.). All Democratic members of the chamber were joined by 41 Republicans in voting against the bill. The bill would have provided funding for a border wall, modified visa programs to limit legal immigration, mandated the use of a worker verification program, allowed the administration to cut funding to sanctuary cities, allow recipients of DACA to apply for legal status, and prevent families from being separated at the border. Following the bill's defeat, Republican leaders decided to postpone a vote on a compromise bill between conservative and moderate wings of the party.[1]
This idea is already dead.Trump promised to sign a "bill of love" 366 days ago, on camera, that included DACA. He ended up not doing it.
You are correct.
To answer the OP, sure, trade DACA for the wall.
“I have never been more depressed about moving forward than right now. I just don’t see a pathway forward” Graham says on shutdown status.
This idea is already dead.
https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/1083446901427589121
I predict that over the weekend, as the first paychecks for federal employees are missed, you'll see more Republicans break and move to reopen the government, in exchange for votes on border security.
No.
Pro-DACA, Anti-Wall.
I don't need to agree to a pointless wall in order to do something that actually makes sense.
Stop labeling every Republican that doesn't mindlessly follow the Dear Leader a 'NeverTrump'.https://ballotpedia.org/115th_Congress_on_immigration,_2017-2018#June_21.2C_2018:_House_rejects_one_immigration_bill.2C_delays_vote_on_another
Every House Democrat and 41 NeverTrump Republicans****canned the deal.
Graham had a brain?Graham can shove it. He's become a Trump toady. I hope he's miserable right now. HIs brain is buried in John McCain's coffin.
Graham had a brain?
Pro DACA, no border?
https://ballotpedia.org/115th_Congress_on_immigration,_2017-2018#June_21.2C_2018:_House_rejects_one_immigration_bill.2C_delays_vote_on_another
Every House Democrat and 41 NeverTrump Republicans ****canned the deal.
How can any sane man fall for this blather ?DACA means everyone here illegally, anyone related to anyone here illegally, anyone married to anyone here illegally, and anyone related to anyone married to anyone here illegally - with no way to confirm any of it.
With DACA as Democrats present it, there is no border and with no border there is no need for a wall - and eventually no purpose for a US government. A country no longer needs a government if it is ceasing being a country. No border. No country.
No.
Pro-DACA, Anti-Wall.
I don't need to agree to a pointless wall in order to do something that actually makes sense.
just wondering what both sides think
How about this for a compromise: No wall, and we deport every single DACA recipient? That way everyone gets what they want.
Well, any takers?