Z: "NOT GUILTY" and/or "COMPLETELY INNOCENT" !!! [W:2]

[Paperview]

This photo of the back of Z's jacket has to be BOGUS. And the assertion that these photos by Paperview were taken immediately after the incident MUST BE CRAP.

REASON: The Investigating Detectives found Z with TWO BLACK EYES and LACERATIONS on the back of Z's skull. That CLEARLY indicates Z's version that he was on his back, severely beaten, and his head pounded into the concrete. The Trial's EVIDENCE IS CLEAR ON THAT POINT.

The police photos taken IMMEDIATELY after the incident, where one can plainly see Z with TWO BLACK EYES and lacerations on the back of his skull, are consistent with Z's version of events ........these were CLEARLY ILLUSTRATED ON GRETA VAN SUSTERN'S SHOW ON FRIDAY JULY 12.

And, of course, the REAL photos will be the ones on Greta Van Sustern's show.......NOT Paperview's. And, when the trial data will be available I will bet my bottom nickel that I am correct.

So, you can either believe me, and Greta Van Sustern's show......or Paperview.

That's your choice.

IMO, this OBFUSCATION and DISTORTION of FACTS, or the TRUTH, is typical of the Dem Lib/Gays.

I am showing you the actual police photos. Taken that night. At SPD.

Entered into evidence. These are not crap.

Anyone who has followed this case knows this.

These images were released over a year ago.

Educate yourself.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Z: NOT Guilty and/or COMPLETELY Innocent.

Trayvon Martin (or TM in this post) wasn't the average, normal "child" portrayed by the Prosecutors, or his supporters. TM was a teen age thug. He was suspended from school for graffiti, found with drug residue in his bag, and arrested for stolen jewelry and burglary tools which were explained away. Zimmerman (Z in this post) was a neighborhood watch guy. Z mentored black kids. Z's best friend is a black. And, Z dated black women.

TM did NOT have two black eyes and lacerations on the back of his head. Z did.
And that proves, without ANY shadow of a doubt, that it was TM that was on top....NOT that TM was on the bottom, during the scuffle, as claimed by the Prosecution, or his supporters. Thus, Z had his eyes blackened, and his head pounded into the concrete by T ...... CLEARLY indicating that Z had EVERY INDICATION that his life was in jeopardy.

THE LAW IN THIS CASE: Since the ULTIMATE DEFENSE for NOT GUILTY is shooting and/or killing an attacker while acting in SELF DEFENSE on account of reasonable FEAR FOR ONE'S LIFE ........Z is CLEARLY and UNMISTAKABLY "NOT GUILTY"..... and COMPLETELY INNOCENT.....no matter WHAT ELSE led to the scuffle.

The FACTS, other than the above, may be clear, and/or murky. The Cops comment for Z not to pursue the issues in this matter is clear. The rest may be murky. BUT THE BASIC FACTS FOR Z BEING "NOT GUILTY", or "COMPLETELY INNOCENT" of Manslaughter, or "LESSER OFFENSES" ...are NOT met by the evidence which is based on the LIES of the Prosecution, ex: that Z in his phone call claimed that Z stated that he "KILLED" TM, whereas the tape clearly indicates that Z said that he "SHOT" TM. That it was TM that was on the "bottom of the scuffle", and/or that Martin was an off-the-wall RACIST !!!

To PROVE Z "GUILTY" and/or "GUILTY" of Manslaughter, or any LESSER OFFENSES, one must PROVE evil intent, or hate. This the Prosecution CLEARLY was not able to do, relying on OUTRIGHT LIES, "What ifs", and EMOTIONAL RHETORIC which doesn't have any place in a Court of Law.

The Chief of Police and the Investigating Detectives were CLEARLY CORRECT to have found Z "NOT GUILTY", and did NOT arrest Z.

Enter the Rabble Rousing DUO of ESTABLISHED, PROFESSIONAL RACE BAITERS AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, ETC.

PLUS, The Black Racist Obama and his OBVIOUS Black Racist Stooge, and Alter Ego, ERIK HOLDER , Head of the Dept of Justice. Before the trial began, Obummer clearly indicated his racist sentiments for TM claiming that TM was like his son, if he had one. And, Holder sent out his rabble rousing minions from the Justice Dept to incite Black Rioting if the verdict went against TM.

BUT, NOTE WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE FACTS & THE EVIDENCE BROUGHT OUT IN THE TRIAL: Both Obama, and the Professional Black Racist & Rabble Rouser Jesse Jackson behaved as follows...Obama, according to his Spokesman Carney, suddenly doesn't "listen to TV, and doesn't have any comment"....whereas Obama was openly listening to the TV BEFORE the Trial. And, Obumster obviously listened and commented on the SCANDALOUS Fast & Furious, the IRS, and other Administrative Fiascos. And Jesse jackson suddenly is counseling "restraint" following the trial.

WHY ?!?!?

Obviously because they do not want to go down historically as being LEGAL IDIOTS in this " Z vs TM" case !!!

This was, and is, a CLEAR "open & dunk" case with Z being CLEARLY "NOT GUILTY" as the Chief of Police and the Investigating Detectives found. And, therefor, they didn't even arrest Z. This whole trial is a TRAVESTY of JUSTICE brought on by BLACK RACIST POLITICAL PC PRESSURE !!!

You base this post on many "facts" but not all of them were introduced at the trial. I agree that insufficient evidence of motive for a murder (in any form) was presented by the state and that self defense was not, by any means, removed beyond a reasonable doubt. One other fact that will be considered by the jury, is that this incident resulted in the death of an unarmed youth. The jury may well not be aware that manalughter is not a minor offense, even when called a "lesser" included offense, especially if a gun was used and the victim was a minor (a 30 year sentence can result), yet may use that as a compromise verdict to avoid a mistrial. It only takes one juror to refuse to say not guilty to keep that jury sequestered while they debate.

 

[HoongLoong]

This photo was NOT taken by the Investigating Detectives immediately after the incident.

See my previous post on this issue.

 

[Paperview]

You'd think there would be at least some dig-the-heels-in-the-dirt marks.

Grass stains.

Somewhere.

 

[HoongLoong]

Z: NOT Guilty and/or COMPLETELY Innocent.

Trayvon Martin (or TM in this post) wasn't the average, normal "child" portrayed by the Prosecutors, or his supporters. TM was a teen age thug. He was suspended from school for graffiti, found with drug residue in his bag, and arrested for stolen jewelry and burglary tools which were explained away. Zimmerman (Z in this post) was a neighborhood watch guy. Z mentored black kids. Z's best friend is a black. And, Z dated black women.

TM did NOT have two black eyes and lacerations on the back of his head. Z did.
And that proves, without ANY shadow of a doubt, that it was TM that was on top....NOT that TM was on the bottom, during the scuffle, as claimed by the Prosecution, or his supporters. Thus, Z had his eyes blackened, and his head pounded into the concrete by T ...... CLEARLY indicating that Z had EVERY INDICATION that his life was in jeopardy.

THE LAW IN THIS CASE: Since the ULTIMATE DEFENSE for NOT GUILTY is shooting and/or killing an attacker while acting in SELF DEFENSE on account of reasonable FEAR FOR ONE'S LIFE ........Z is CLEARLY and UNMISTAKABLY "NOT GUILTY"..... and COMPLETELY INNOCENT.....no matter WHAT ELSE led to the scuffle.

The FACTS, other than the above, may be clear, and/or murky. The Cops comment for Z not to pursue the issues in this matter is clear. The rest may be murky. BUT THE BASIC FACTS FOR Z BEING "NOT GUILTY", or "COMPLETELY INNOCENT" of Manslaughter, or "LESSER OFFENSES" ...are NOT met by the evidence which is based on the LIES of the Prosecution, ex: that Z in his phone call claimed that Z stated that he "KILLED" TM, whereas the tape clearly indicates that Z said that he "SHOT" TM. That it was TM that was on the "bottom of the scuffle", and/or that Martin was an off-the-wall RACIST !!!

To PROVE Z "GUILTY" and/or "GUILTY" of Manslaughter, or any LESSER OFFENSES, one must PROVE evil intent, or hate. This the Prosecution CLEARLY was not able to do, relying on OUTRIGHT LIES, "What ifs", and EMOTIONAL RHETORIC which doesn't have any place in a Court of Law.

The Chief of Police and the Investigating Detectives were CLEARLY CORRECT to have found Z "NOT GUILTY", and did NOT arrest Z.

Enter the Rabble Rousing DUO of ESTABLISHED, PROFESSIONAL RACE BAITERS AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, ETC.

PLUS, The Black Racist Obama and his OBVIOUS Black Racist Stooge, and Alter Ego, ERIK HOLDER , Head of the Dept of Justice. Before the trial began, Obummer clearly indicated his racist sentiments for TM claiming that TM was like his son, if he had one. And, Holder sent out his rabble rousing minions from the Justice Dept to incite Black Rioting if the verdict went against TM.

BUT, NOTE WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE FACTS & THE EVIDENCE BROUGHT OUT IN THE TRIAL: Both Obama, and the Professional Black Racist & Rabble Rouser Jesse Jackson behaved as follows...Obama, according to his Spokesman Carney, suddenly doesn't "listen to TV, and doesn't have any comment"....whereas Obama was openly listening to the TV BEFORE the Trial. And, Obumster obviously listened and commented on the SCANDALOUS Fast & Furious, the IRS, and other Administrative Fiascos. And Jesse jackson suddenly is counseling "restraint" following the trial.

WHY ?!?!?

Obviously because they do not want to go down historically as being LEGAL IDIOTS in this " Z vs TM" case !!!

This was, and is, a CLEAR "open & dunk" case with Z being CLEARLY "NOT GUILTY" as the Chief of Police and the Investigating Detectives found. And, therefor, they didn't even arrest Z. This whole trial is a TRAVESTY of JUSTICE brought on by BLACK RACIST POLITICAL PC PRESSURE !!!

ADDENDUM:

The reason that the Obumster and some of the more vocal TM supporters are suddenly silent and don't wish to involve themselves in a "SUABLE MANNER", and that the turd Jesse Jackson is even counseling "NONVIOLENCE" when he was RABIDLY yowling and basically promoting RACE RIOTS if the trial acquitted Z with a "NOT GUILTY" is not only that these turds fear to appear as LEGAL IDIOTS.....the more compelling reason is that they are fearful of being sued. Because, as I stated in one of my posts: Z has them by the arse !!!

 

[Paperview]

This photo was NOT taken by the Investigating Detectives immediately after the incident.

See my previous post on this issue.

It was taken that night.

You can continue to argue with me, but you will lose this one.

I promise.

 

[Oceandan]

It was taken that night.

You can continue to argue with me, but you will lose this one.

I promise.

LOL more "low information crowd" statements. "that night" is an EXTREMELY non specific term. But you go!!!

 

[HoongLoong]

You'd think there would be at least some dig-the-heels-in-the-dirt marks.

Grass stains.



Somewhere.

Bovinepoop.

Your photos were not taken IMMEDIATELY after the incident by the Investigating Detectives.

Proof of that is the TRIAL'S EVIDENCE which CLEARLY indicates that the thug TM was on top of Z, forcefully beating him and slamming his head on the concrete.

Z's TWO BLACK EYES & LACERATIONS AT THE BACK OF HIS SKULL ......PHOTOS IMMEDIATELY TAKEN BY THE INVESTIGATING DETECTIVES.....at least one of whom, by the way, stated on the witness stand that he BELIEVED Z's VERSION ...these Police photos were shown on Greta Van Sustern's show on Friday, July 12......consistent with the EVIDENCE brought out on the Trial. IMO, NOT the bovinepoop which is typical of the Dem Lib/Gay CRAP.

So, the sentient readers can believe me, or what was on Greta Van Sustern's show, Friday, July 12 ..... or they can believe you.

When the Trial's evidence comes out we will see who the LIAR is.

 

[Paperview]

LOL more "low information crowd" statements. "that night" is an EXTREMELY non specific term. But you go!!!

Yeah. That night. The time the photos were taken are in the police reports.

It is also noted above in one one of the pictures.

Have you seen the photo taken of Trayvon's dead body lying in the grass?

Near pristine. Except for that hollow point through his heart.

 

[Paperview]

...

When the Trial's evidence comes out we will see who the LIAR is.

Most all of the photos have been available through Discovery for over a year now.

 

[Excon]

This photo of the back of Z's jacket has to be BOGUS. And the assertion that these photos by Paperview were taken immediately after the incident MUST BE CRAP.

No, it is not crap, but real and true. But it is dishonesty on his part, as he knows the larger photos exist that show the grass and marks from being on concrete.
And the spotting looks like it would be from evaporated water.

A LEO and witness 13 stated the condition of his back.
They must all be lying, huh?

Did you even bother to look?
And this is after sitting in a squad car for a while.

He even had grass on his ear still.

 

[Paperview]

See that? It was brutal!

Brutal I say!

It's amazing he could walk after that takedown.

Flecks! Flecks! We see flecks!

 

[Excon]

See that? It was brutal!

Brutal I say!

It's amazing he could walk after that takedown.

Flecks! Flecks! We see flecks!

You see what was left at the time the photo was taken. After being in a squad car and moving around.

It is a shame that you think LE and witness 13 lied.

 

[Oceandan]

Yeah. That night. The time the photos were taken are in the police reports.

It is also noted above in one one of the pictures.

Have you seen the photo taken of Trayvon's dead body lying in the grass?

Near pristine. Except for that hollow point through his heart.

Yeah I know, near pristine. That's why the prosecution argued a tree beat up GZ not the angelic child TM. You keep posting those photos taken at the police department and ignore the observations of the police AT THE SCENE.

Do one more experiment for me ok??? Sometime when it's raining, go have a wrestling match on the ground. Then do the same when it's not raining or better when the grass isn't wet.

Report back......maybe with pics ok?? of your clothing.

 

[sharon]

LOL more "low information crowd" statements. "that night" is an EXTREMELY non specific term. But you go!!!

Low information? Go to the evidence instead of the media.

Here's a photo for you..

http://gawker.com/this-courtesy-of-msnbc-is-trayvon-martins-dead-body-753370712

 

[Oceandan]

See that? It was brutal!

Brutal I say!

It's amazing he could walk after that takedown.

Flecks! Flecks! We see flecks!

Btw, what pray tell, do the appearance of his external injuries have to do with self defense? You are aware, are you not, NO visible injuries are needed to use lethal force in self defense. Right?

Are you claiming the only way GZ can claim self defense is if he has "medically" significant injuries?

As I've done else where, let's test your hypothesis. Let's break your nose, contact your head with concrete with ONLY the severity to produce punctate visible wounds, "flecks" I believe you called them, have an attacker mount you and administer an "MMA style ground and pound, you tell us when you think you would REASONABLY fear great bodily harm.

 

[Oceandan]

Low information? Go to the evidence instead of the media.

Here's a photo for you.

sharon that picture should be taken to classes for ALL 17 y.o. males. The talk would be entitled "Why you MAY want to think twice before deciding to beat up 'creepy ass crackers' who 'follow you'"

 

[Paperview]

Low information? Go to the evidence instead of the media.

Here's a photo for you..

http://gawker.com/this-courtesy-of-msnbc-is-trayvon-martins-dead-body-753370712

Thank you for that link.

I saw the pictures two weeks ago of his body in the grass, but it still shocks.

It was a good article. Well worth reading.

<snip>

"But those are rationalizations. They don't explain my motive: Good old-fashioned rage that this kid is dead because my home state empowered a dullard aficionado of Van Damme and Seagal movie cliches to choose his own adventure.

Florida literally gave George Zimmerman license to make up neighborhood threats and invite violent confrontations, confident in the knowledge that he carried more firepower jammed down his sweaty fat waistband than every army on earth beheld before 1415.

I wish I were a better person than that, but I'm not. People come up short all the time, after all. I suppose it's a good thing I don't have a gun.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

good, then you can explain for us exactly what the suit would be about and why msnbc stands no chance of defending itself from those charges

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don't think so. his money will be the income from his story; whatever is left of it after o'mara and west collect their fees


i look for your documentation that this is something other than fabricated bull ****

Are you saying that posting his SSN isn't enough to sue CNN? People have successfully sued mcdonalds for selling too hot coffee. Why would you not be able to sue news agencies for systematically slandering you and ruining your life? A plethora of people are shot every single day, and nobody cares. It won't even usually make the local paper. The media however decided to make it about race and turned it into this multi-year race battle.

 

[HoongLoong]

Most all of the photos have been available through Discovery for over a year now.

As stated by me and others: these photos were NOT taken by the Investigating Detectives IMMEDIATELY after the incident.

Your photos are the typical efforts of the DEM Gay/Lib Obfuscation and Distortion Artistes probably taken on some other occasion.

The proof of that is the FACT that the REAL PHOTOS taken by the cops, IMMEDIATELY after the incident, CLEARLY show Z with TWO HUGE BLACKEYES and LACERATIONS on the back of his skull. These TRUE photos were shown on Greta Van Sustern's show on Friday, July 12 and give credence to the EVIDENCE supporting Z's version. And, BTW, the Investigating Detective on the witness stand testified that he believed Z's version.

So, the sentient readers can either accept what was on Greta Van Sustern's show, and the info in my post ......or believe you.

When the Trial data comes out, it'll be clear who the LIAR is.

 

[Mason66]

I am showing you the actual police photos. Taken that night. At SPD.

Entered into evidence. These are not crap.

Anyone who has followed this case knows this.

These images were released over a year ago.

Educate yourself.

I don't think I would expect to see grass stains as such when they were probably sliding in the wet grass and not grinding on dry grass.

Water drys.

The officer that put Zimmerman in cuffs testified to the state of his jacket and pants and that is the evidence that matters.

I don't see your pictures being inconsistent with the evidence.

 

[Paperview]

As stated by me and others: these photos were NOT taken by the Investigating Detectives IMMEDIATELY after the incident.

Your photos are the typical efforts of the DEM Gay/Lib Obfuscation and Distortion Artistes probably taken on some other occasion.

The proof of that is the FACT that the REAL PHOTOS taken by the cops, IMMEDIATELY after the incident, CLEARLY show Z with TWO HUGE BLACKEYES and LACERATIONS on the back of his skull. These TRUE photos were shown on Greta Van Sustern's show on Friday, July 12 and give credence to the EVIDENCE supporting Z's version. And, BTW, the Investigating Detective on the witness stand testified that he believed Z's version.

So, the sentient readers can either accept what was on Greta Van Sustern's show, and the info in my post ......or believe you.

When the Trial data comes out, it'll be clear who the LIAR is.

The fact you don't know what photos have already been released, or even who took the two on-scene picures of Z, tells me how little you know about this case/

One cop took the bloody nose picture. With his cell phone. Then "forgot" he had it for 3 weeks. It was only entered into the record then.

The back of the head shot was taken by a resident -W13.

That civilian, who was the first on scene - was the same one Z said his first words to, even as TM's body was exiting the mortal coil. The first of those words being "do I have blood on my face?"

Wild, first words after you just killed a kid. "Do I have blood on my face?"

For most people it would be, anyway.

 

[Excon]

"But those are rationalizations. They don't explain my motive: Good old-fashioned rage that this kid is dead because my home state empowered a dullard aficionado of Van Damme and Seagal movie cliches to choose his own adventure.

Florida literally gave George Zimmerman license to make up neighborhood threats and invite violent confrontations, confident in the knowledge that he carried more firepower jammed down his sweaty fat waistband than every army on earth beheld before 1415.

I wish I were a better person than that, but I'm not. People come up short all the time, after all. I suppose it's a good thing I don't have a gun.

:baby2 :baby2 :baby2

The fact you don't know what photos have already been released,

And yet here you were being dishonest in your representation by only providing the un-detailed photos, as you knew the photos with the grass and concrete marks existed.

 

[Captain America]

One would think, with 6 women on the jury, we do not have to worry about it being a "hung," jury. :lamo

 

[APACHERAT]

good, then you can explain for us exactly what the suit would be about and why msnbc stands no chance of defending itself from those charges

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don't think so. his money will be the income from his story; whatever is left of it after o'mara and west collect their fees


i look for your documentation that this is something other than fabricated bull ****

Just to start out with MSNBC, before any charges were filed, they claimed that Zimmerman was a "white" racist and were going to see that Zimmerman is prosecuted and convicted.

As for MSNBC connections to the Obama White House, they got busted live on television receiving e-mail talking points from the White House while on the air.