Was the JFK Murder a Successful Coup by Government?

[Craig234]

Yes, it’s just and old right wing myth/talking point that they repeat without knowing or caring about the actual facts.

Nor do they include allegations of Nixon cheating.

 

[Atomic Kid]

So, he leaves $169 cash, nearly five week's pay after payroll withholding, with his wife and goes to work on 11/22 without his revolver, carrying a paper bagged "package" that the only two witnesses who claimed to have seen Oswald carrying it, stubbornly swore under oath was less than 30 inches long, despite "encouragement" from LEO interrogators.

Their story is that Oswald broke his rifle down to reduce the length from 40 inches to ??? inches
(see page 32 - http://www.jfklancer.com/pdf/moyer.pdf )
and reassembled it using a dime during the morning portion of his work day, and despite describing the rifle as "well oiled", neither Dallas police or the FBI forensics lab found any of that gun oil on the interior surface of the paper bag or fresh scratches or dings on the disassembled rifle parts allegedly carried in that bag.

And he left his wedding ring in a Russian tea cup on top the bedroom dresser. Something he had never done before after any one of their marital disagreements, of which there were more than a few. Marina didn't find the ring until 2 or 3 days later. Marina was always pretty much aware of what the state of her husband's finances were at any one time, and so she knew that 160 dollars had to represent all the money he had in the world outside of the $13.87 he had on him when arrested at the movie theater. So that would appear to be a pretty good indication that one way or another he knew was not going to be coming back home again after that day. And nobody knew how squeeze a dollar more than Oswald. So didn't surprise her that he had saved that much and I believe he offered to buy the washing and dryer machines she had always wanted if she would agree to come back home with him again that night. But even though she was secretly pleased inside the he still wanted to be with her and the kids she felt that she couldn't give in too quickly and easily until he understands she was not going put up with all his silly secret games anymore and gave him the silent treatment that night, which upset him. Of course she had no way of knowing the evil it was he was contemplating doing the next morning.

And neither did Wesley Frazier or Lin Randle. Ms Randle first told investigators that the brown package she observed Oswald carrying from the kitchen window appeared to somewhat heavy as Oswald supporting the bottom part of it with the palm of his hand and that couldn't be sure of it's exact size because she observing it at a distance. She later changed her story to support her brother's statement that the appeared to be less than 3 feet long. But he also repeatedly made it clear to investigators that he really didn't pay much attention to it since he had no reason to believe that Oswald would lie to him about it or had any suspicion that Oswald would be up anything nefarious. If Oswald said it was curtain rods than far as he was concerned it was curtain rods. Although no such curtain rods were ever found in the depository, his room in the rooming had curtains and curtain, and when questioned by investigators as to whether or not he had taken long brown paper package with him that morning he denied that he did. He claimed instead that he only took a small paper lunch bag with him which Wesley Frazier clearly stated not seeing any such lunch bag at all. So clearly that was a lie.

Breaking down and reassembling a Mannlicher-Carcano is really fairly quick and easy involving relatively few parts. For an ex-Marine like Oswald, it would only take him a couple minutes at most to do either really. When broken down I believe it would be about 30 inches. Also when firearms people describe a firearm as being "well oiled", they mean as in being properly oiled, as in just the thinnest possible veneer of oil necessary to keep the firearm in proper working condition. An excess of oil will actually tend to trap dirt and grit and make the firearm more susceptible to malfunction. Again having been a Marine Oswald knew very well how to properly maintain his weapons. That's something the Marine Corp drills into all its people.
An examination of the packaging turned up fibers from the blanket Oswald used to store the rifle in the Paine garage, along with fibers from the shirt he was wearing that day, also present were abrasions and scratches on the inside consistent having contained an object with some weight and heft to it. A palm print positively identified as belonging to Oswald was found on part of the package where folds indicated the butt portion of the stock would've been, consistent with the descriptions of Wesley Frazier and Lin Randle as to manner in which Oswald was carrying the package that morning. Also other partial prints belonging to Oswald was found on the packaging.

 

[post]

Frazier's sister, Linnie Mae Randall, more than likely did not see anything.... and you conveniently avoided an argument in favor of Oswald leaving his revolver home as somehow a "nice fit" for your argument. Even if you were correct in your opinion he elected to carry less than $14 because he was on a sort of "suicide mission" negating the need to carry "get away" funds, wouldn't the desperado of the picture you've painted, have considered the revolver a handy thing to pack with the disassembled rifle just in case he was discovered reassembling the rifle or lurking on the sixth floor, setting up for the fatal shots?

Linnie Mae Randall's view, from her kitchen. Frazier's car was parked on the other side of the wall separating his car from the car
visible in the garage.

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BUD SAID : I'll expand on why I think it is unlikely that Essie [Buell Wesley Frazier's mother] saw Oswald after he put the bag in [Frazi...

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"I certainly don't think Linnie Mae was lying at all. She possibly HEARD more than she SAW." (said David von Pein...)

Note: This photo was taken after the JFK Assassination. The arrow on the right documents where Frazier's car was parked on
the morning of November 22, another car was parked in that location in this later photo.

 

[Atomic Kid]

There was no reason at all for Oswald to kill JFK unless he was doing it at the behest of someone else.

You're right in the respect that Oswald didn't appear to harbor any personal or political animosity toward Kennedy. Marina was big fan of Jackie Kennedy, as many women were, and they often kept a copy of Life magazine with the Kennedys on the front cover prominently displayed on their coffee table. If that bothered Oswald at all he never expressed any objections about it to Marina. His brother Robert has always maintained his brother was not political. That if Lee claimed to be Marxist you can be sure that Lee didn't really have a clear or full understanding of what Marxism actually is. It just was repeat of a lifelong pattern of Lee becoming whatever it is he felt he needed to become in order to attract attention to himself so as to stand out from the rest. He always had this need or desire to be somebody. As Marina often said Lee had this belief that he was an exceptional, or destined to be an exceptional figure or person. So his killing Kennedy was not at anyone else's behest except his own. It didn't matter so much to Oswald who Kennedy was, as it did what Kennedy was, and what Kennedy's status would do for his status.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Frazier's sister, Linnie Mae Randall, more than likely did not see anything.... and you conveniently avoided an argument in favor of Oswald leaving his revolver home as somehow a "nice fit" for your argument. Even if you were correct in your opinion he elected to carry less than $14 because he was on a sort of "suicide mission" negating the need to carry "get away" funds, wouldn't the desperado of the picture you've painted, have considered the revolver a handy thing to pack with the disassembled rifle just in case he was discovered reassembling the rifle or lurking on the sixth floor, setting up for the fatal shots?

Linnie Mae Randall's view, from her kitchen. Frazier's car was parked on the other side of the wall separating his car from the car
visible in the garage.

<center> JFK ASSASSINATION ARGUMENTS <br>(PART 746) </center>

BUD SAID : I'll expand on why I think it is unlikely that Essie [Buell Wesley Frazier's mother] saw Oswald after he put the bag in [Frazi...

jfk-archives.blogspot.com

"I certainly don't think Linnie Mae was lying at all. She possibly HEARD more than she SAW." (said David von Pein...)

Note: This photo was taken after the JFK Assassination. The arrow on the right documents where Frazier's car was parked on
the morning of November 22, another car was parked in that location in this later photo.
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I'm just telling you what she told the investigators. Don't believe she ever claimed to see him place in the car. But she could see him coming down the walkway and that he was earlier than usual that morning. The point about him not taking his revolver with him that morning is a pretty inane one actually. First of all he was at the Paine's house that morning, not at his Oak Cliff rooming house. He left directly from the Depository with Wesley Frazier on a Thursday instead of a Friday. Which he had not ever done before, He also didn't call Marina in advance as he had always done before. Because he had to tread carefully at the Paines because Ruth Paine's husband did not get along with Lee. As for the revolver, carrying a bulky revolver around on his person at the Depository wasn't practical at all for him to do. Neither would he risk bringing it to the Paine's home because should Marina or Ruth Paine see it that would be certainly be the end of his visits there and would also put in jeopardy his wife and children having a place to stay. He just needed to get the rifle. It's also my personal belief that at that point he was still wrestling in his mind with whether he really wanted to keep his appointment with fate tomorrow knowing the price of keeping it was likely to be not ever being able be with his family ever again for the rest of his life, should it not end that day. In the end he chose fate and fame. Also the motorcade was coming by at lunch time so most all of the Book Depository employees would be outside and the elevators were in between floors so that they couldn't be called up. He had also built up a nice little wall of boxes would conceal him from the view of anyone coming up from the stairwell or the elevator should anyone manage to call one.

 

[Craig234]

Frazier's sister, Linnie Mae Randall, more than likely did not see anything....

I don't see any reason to think he couldn't have walked outside her window where she could see him, which he normally didn't do, and her testimony isn't that important regardless.

Even if you were correct in your opinion he elected to carry less than $14 because he was on a sort of "suicide mission" negating the need to carry "get away" funds, wouldn't the desperado of the picture you've painted, have considered the revolver a handy thing to pack with the disassembled rifle just in case he was discovered reassembling the rifle or lurking on the sixth floor, setting up for the fatal shots?

It's entirely plausible that Oswald was fixated on the rifle shot and didn't even think about the revolver. It wouldn't really be that big a help anyway probably; if he had to use it while assembling the rifle, it'd be likely others would hear the shots and he'd be caught anyway, but I doubt he even considered it. He didn't seem to have thought through much of a plan other than the shooting.

 

[Craig234]

His brother Robert has always maintained his brother was not political. That if Lee claimed to be Marxist you can be sure that Lee didn't really have a clear or full understanding of what Marxism actually is. It just was repeat of a lifelong pattern of Lee becoming whatever it is he felt he needed to become in order to attract attention to himself so as to stand out from the rest. He always had this need or desire to be somebody. As Marina often said Lee had this belief that he was an exceptional, or destined to be an exceptional figure or person. So his killing Kennedy was not at anyone else's behest except his own. It didn't matter so much to Oswald who Kennedy was, as it did what Kennedy was, and what Kennedy's status would do for his status.

I think that's mostly wrong. It's not important how he correctly understood Marxism - how much did almost anyone, it's often said 'Marxist' countries have a lot less to do with Marxism than authoritarianism, and 'Marxist' revolutions are filled with people who know less than Oswald about Marxism and are just opposing the current regime. What matters about it is that he was attracted to Marxism since being a teenager, when he was handed a pamphlet criticizing the execution of the Rosenbergs, and telling his mother he had become a Marxist, and he continued to say that in situations it was quite uncomfortable, including as a Marine at that time getting him called 'Oswaldovitch' by other Marines, and he behaved radically about it concocting a plan to get out of the marines and defect to Russia. Many people said he talked a lot about politics.

There was a book written not long after the assassination that made the case that Oswald spent a lot of nights listening to a personal radio playing Cuban propaganda. On his trip back from Russia he wrote a couple versions of speeches he planned to give the press lecturing them with his view on the right political system the US should adopt taking parts from the US and Soviet systems. He was very 'political'. The mystery is around whether he was just acting on his own, or whether he was acting under any government direction, creating a Marxist persona, such as with his handing out Fair Play for Cuba leaflets to Navy personnel and getting in a fight and on the radio as a 'spokesperson' for the communists; the US did use people that way, and they had a desire to try to find a mole they might have had people act like Oswald trying to gain information if the Soviets used him, as he offered them U-2 information.

You're right that he had been generally positive about Kennedy, but that was in a context of US politics, Kennedy versus the right-wing, including a figure like General Walker who Kennedy fired and Oswald tried to shoot. But Kennedy was also described as an enemy from Castro's point of view, including those radio broadcasts, and reportedly Oswald heard anti-Kennedy things when he went to the Cuban embassy in Mexico. It seems he cold have been expected to be a hero to Castro and Cubans by killing JFK (much as Ruby claimed he had wanted to be a hero by shooting Oswald, cover story or not), and while he couldn't get other rewards for it, it certainly would make him a historical figure, as he was doing menial labor and losing his family.

 

[Nilhus]

OK, let's see.

It happened at the height of the cold war.

The CIA was strongly anti-communism, wanted to conduct all kinds of highly questionable operations against them.

The CIA already had history of ugly criminal activity(black ops/experiments) like MKUltra in which american citizens died

The CIA wanted to commit terrorist acts, including against American civilians, in a red flag operation called Northwoods, which JFK REJECTED

The director of the CIA, Allen Dulles was forced to resign by JFK. Afterwards, the same Allen Dulles was put on the Warren commission.

We have the crazy "single-bullet" theory: [..]passed through President Kennedy's neck into Governor Connally's chest, went through his wrist, and embedded itself in Connally's thigh. If so, this bullet traversed 15 layers of clothing, seven layers of skin, and approximately 15 inches of muscle tissue; it also struck a necktie knot, removed 4 inches of rib, and shattered a radius bone. [..] Its copper jacket was completely intact.

Oswald was conveniently killed shortly thereafter. Oswald's killer (who said "I was framed to kill Oswald") also conveniently died not very long after he killed Oswald. Who would benefit the most from these deaths? The seekers of truth or potential conspirators?

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EVIDENCE that the CIA hid evidence from the Warren Comission and the HCSA:
from wiki, United States House Select Committee on Assassinations, G. Robert Blakey [..] as Chief Counsel and Staff Director

In the same 2003 interview, Blakey issued a statement on the Central Intelligence Agency:

...I no longer believe that we were able to conduct an appropriate investigation of the [Central Intelligence] Agency and its relationship to Oswald.... We now know that the Agency withheld from the Warren Commission the CIA–Mafia plots to kill Castro. Had the commission known of the plots, it would have followed a different path in its investigation. The Agency unilaterally deprived the commission of a chance to obtain the full truth, which will now never be known. Significantly, the Warren Commission's conclusion that the agencies of the government co-operated with it is, in retrospect, not the truth. We also now know that the Agency set up a process that could only have been designed to frustrate the ability of the committee in 1976–79 to obtain any information that might adversely affect the Agency. Many have told me that the culture of the Agency is one of prevarication and dissimulation and that you cannot trust it or its people. Period. End of story. I am now in that camp.[31]

According to a 2015 Politico report,[32] newly declassified documents show that CIA director John A. McCone hid evidence from the Warren Commission. According to a once-secret report[33] written in 2013 by the CIA's top in-house historian, David Robarge, the CIA admits McCone and other senior CIA officials withheld 'incendiary' information from the Warren Commission.

United States House Select Committee on Assassinations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Conclusion: one has to be either completely dishonest(siding with the real criminals) or seriously mentally challenged in order to completely dismiss any kind of conspiracy on the side of intelligence agencies/deep state actors!

 

[Tigerace117]

OK, let's see.

It happened at the height of the cold war.

The CIA was strongly anti-communism, wanted to conduct all kinds of highly questionable operations against them.

The CIA already had history of ugly criminal activity(black ops/experiments) like MKUltra in which american citizens died

The CIA wanted to commit terrorist acts, including against American civilians, in a red flag operation called Northwoods, which JFK REJECTED

The director of the CIA, Allen Dulles was forced to resign by JFK. Afterwards, the same Allen Dulles was put on the Warren commission.

We have the crazy "single-bullet" theory: [..]passed through President Kennedy's neck into Governor Connally's chest, went through his wrist, and embedded itself in Connally's thigh. If so, this bullet traversed 15 layers of clothing, seven layers of skin, and approximately 15 inches of muscle tissue; it also struck a necktie knot, removed 4 inches of rib, and shattered a radius bone. [..] Its copper jacket was completely intact.

Oswald was conveniently killed shortly thereafter. Oswald's killer (who said "I was framed to kill Oswald") also conveniently died not very long after he killed Oswald. Who would benefit the most from these deaths? The seekers of truth or potential conspirators?

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EVIDENCE that the CIA hid evidence from the Warren Comission and the HCSA:
from wiki, United States House Select Committee on Assassinations, G. Robert Blakey [..] as Chief Counsel and Staff Director

In the same 2003 interview, Blakey issued a statement on the Central Intelligence Agency:


According to a 2015 Politico report,[32] newly declassified documents show that CIA director John A. McCone hid evidence from the Warren Commission. According to a once-secret report[33] written in 2013 by the CIA's top in-house historian, David Robarge, the CIA admits McCone and other senior CIA officials withheld 'incendiary' information from the Warren Commission.

United States House Select Committee on Assassinations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Conclusion: one has to be either completely dishonest(siding with the real criminals) or seriously mentally challenged in order to completely dismiss any kind of conspiracy on the side of intelligence agencies/deep state actors!

Oh look, another unhinged rant in which the assumption of a conspiracy is made from the start(without any evidence whatsoever) and then, working backwards, the facts are bent in order to try and justify supporting such a claim.

In other words, typical CT bullshit.

 

[gino]

In other words, typical CT bullshit.

Unfortunately, we never get all the info that is needed to really know about these types of incidences. The fact is, there are some untied loose ends in the Kennedy Assassination that have not been answered. Have they been proven? No. But there is a very real chance that we weren't given the whole truth about the Kennedy Assassination. Just cause we don't have all the answers doesn't mean we have to stop asking the questions...

 

[Peter]

Part of me hopes the mystery is never solved as it's just such a great source for stories.
It's got pretty much everything in there and is known about by anyone with even a tiny interest in history.

I bet the actual truth is dull and filled with boring meetings and tiresome paperwork.

 

[Nilhus]

Oh look, another unhinged rant in which the assumption of a conspiracy is made from the start(without any evidence whatsoever) and then, working backwards, the facts are bent in order to try and justify supporting such a claim.

In other words, typical CT bullshit.

The evidence of conspiracies on the part of intelligence agencies like the CIA, is far, far greater than the evidence presented in ordinary lawsuits.

 

[Tigerace117]

The evidence of conspiracies on the part of intelligence agencies like the CIA, is far, far greater than the evidence presented in ordinary lawsuits.

The “evidence” that CTers claim supports their claims would be laughed out of an actual court.

 

[Nilhus]

The “evidence” that CTers claim supports their claims would be laughed out of an actual court.

It doesn't work like that when it comes to intelligence agencies. Ordinary "courts" have zero power to investigate them and give even remotely valid verdicts!

Wanna investigate intelligence agencies?

Round them all up and throw them in prison, confiscate all the documents and any other possible information related to them and their activites, and make all al the materials available to the public(including independent investigative groups)

Then, we'll talk.

 

[Tigerace117]

It doesn't work like that when it comes to intelligence agencies. Ordinary "courts" have zero power to investigate them and give even remotely valid verdicts!

Wanna investigate intelligence agencies?

Round them all up and throw them in prison, confiscate all the documents and any other possible information related to them and their activites, and make all al the materials available to the public(including independent investigative groups)

Then, we'll talk.

“Ordinary courts”, like all other courts, require factual evidence to prove one’s case. CTers....don’t have any.

Throwing people in prison without cause is laughably illegal(oh, and considering how many employees some of these agencies have borderline impossible).

Declassifying all documents, meanwhile, is utterly idiotic and has the rather high likelihood of actually getting people killed.

 

[Indrob]

The “evidence” that CTers claim supports their claims would be laughed out of an actual court.

Ignorance truly is bliss

 

[Tigerace117]

Ignorance truly is bliss

Which is why CTers can’t handle facing the reality.

 

[Craig234]

Part of me hopes the mystery is never solved as it's just such a great source for stories.
It's got pretty much everything in there and is known about by anyone with even a tiny interest in history.

I bet the actual truth is dull and filled with boring meetings and tiresome paperwork.

It's almost guaranteed it will never be 'solved', that there is no new information to discover, beyond secondary details such as 'did agencies hide connections they'd be embarrassed by'. But whatever the truth, it is not the meetings and "tiresome paperwork" you suggest.

 

[Craig234]

Just cause we don't have all the answers doesn't mean we have to stop asking the questions...

We can't get more answers about the assassination, but we can and should keep the public informed about the actual presidency, and how plausible it was for the mob, the CIA, and even LBJ to be suspected whatever the truth.

 

[Nilhus]

Oh look, another unhinged rant in which the assumption .[...] CT bullshit.

There's quite a bit of difference between assuming something (which you try to put in my mouth, in bad faith) and not ruling out something. I guess it takes the reading and comprehension skills of a 5th grader to understand the difference. It looks it's a pretty high bar for Conspiracy DENIALISTS!

The “evidence” that CTers claim supports their claims would be laughed out of an actual court.

It's not like US courts generally care about evidence. They will often take allegations and rumors as "evidence" and dismiss actual evidence, depending how a certain verdict would correspond to their political/ideological convictions.

Throwing people in prison without cause is laughably illegal(oh, and considering how many employees some of these agencies have borderline impossible).

Declassifying all documents, meanwhile, is utterly idiotic and has the rather high likelihood of actually getting people killed.

Laughable is your statement! The US totalitarian apparatus arrest around 10 million people every year, >90% of them, for no good reason! Besides, there are some ugly episodes in US history, like the internment of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor, for absolutely no reason other than having a certain ethnicity!

But these are suspected criminals of the highest level! Employees of intelligence agencies and some other deep state apparatus employees, committed some extremely serious crimes! They must be held accountable just like any other criminal, with no additional protections! They're actually far more dangerous and harmful to society than ordinary criminals! I haven't heard of not taking action against certain lower level criminals, like drug traffickers, because of "high likelihood of actually getting people killed." - and people do get killed as a result of police interference in various activities - it seems "acceptable"!

 

[Tigerace117]

There's quite a bit of difference between assuming something (which you try to put in my mouth, in bad faith) and not ruling out something. I guess it takes the reading and comprehension skills of a 5th grader to understand the difference. It looks it's a pretty high bar for Conspiracy DENIALISTS!

It's not like US courts generally care about evidence. They will often take allegations and rumors as "evidence" and dismiss actual evidence, depending how a certain verdict would correspond to their political/ideological convictions.

Laughable is your statement! The US totalitarian apparatus arrest around 10 million people every year, >90% of them, for no good reason! Besides, there are some ugly episodes in US history, like the internment of Japanese Americans after Pearl Harbor, for absolutely no reason other than having a certain ethnicity!

But these are suspected criminals of the highest level! Employees of intelligence agencies and some other deep state apparatus employees, committed some extremely serious crimes! They must be held accountable just like any other criminal, with no additional protections! They're actually far more dangerous and harmful to society than ordinary criminals! I haven't heard of not taking action against certain lower level criminals, like drug traffickers, because of "high likelihood of actually getting people killed." - and people do get killed as a result of police interference in various activities - it seems "acceptable"!

There’s quite a bit of difference between rejecting actual evidence and people like you having a meltdown because the deluded garbage you love so much is rightfully laughed out of the room

Your hysterical ravings just show how laughably weak your claims are. Hate to break it to you bud but nobody’s buying your shrieks about an imaginary “totalitarian US system”.

You not having an issue with the crimes people commit does not mean they aren’t crimes bud, and it doesn’t mean that those people should be allowed to abuse others. Duh.

Besides, raving about “ugly incidents in US history” is not, in fact, an excuse to get other people killed.

Again, it’s laughable illegal to throw people in jail because “someone in their organization committed a crime”.

The police routinely keep the identity of uncover operatives and confidential informants secret in order to keep them from getting killed. Again, duh.

I’m sure you do. After all, narcissism is a major trait of conspiracy theorists.

 

[Nilhus]

The police routinely keep the identity of uncover operatives and confidential informants secret in order to keep them from getting killed. Again, duh.

I haven't seen a lot of concern in the American society about that fact that criminals(real or innocent) might be killed if their identity is divulged(and it happened to some totally innocent people - like some young men who had consensual sex with their girlfriends who were 15-16 instead of the ridiculously high age of consent of 18, considered "criminals" just because the legislation reflects backwards and savage "values")

One day the morons in the intelligence services will be hunted down like terrorists(which is really what some of the are), should consider themselves super-lucky if they get any kind of "due process"

 

[Tigerace117]

I haven't seen a lot of concern in the American society about that fact that criminals(real or innocent) might be killed if their identity is divulged(and it happened to some totally innocent people - like some young men who had consensual sex with their girlfriends who were 15-16 instead of the ridiculously high age of consent of 18, considered "criminals" just because the legislation reflects backwards and savage "values")

One day the morons in the intelligence services will be hunted down like terrorists(which is really what some of the are), should consider themselves super-lucky if they get any kind of "due process"

Coming from the guy who defends literally stalking women as supposedly being “romantic”, the fact that you think you can declare anyone else’s values to be “backwards and savage” is absurd.

Only in your warped fantasies bud.

 

[SanderO]

The assassination of JFK contains so many elements upon which a conspiracy theory can be built. I have followed the discussion of the assassination from the first presentations of people who questioned the official story. I attended a lecture by Mark Lane shortly after the assassination... and have seen scores of videos and read books, articles and so on.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the assassination was fertile ground to grow conspiracies.... and boy did they grow. I recall the old saw... Means, Motive & Opportunity.... That alone can apply to scores of groups and individuals... and account for the plethora of conspiracies concerning the JFK assassination.

 

[jpevans]

As was true of Trump, JFK was performing in Russia's best interests.
Did any communist regime benefit from the murder of JFK?

To kick it off on this thread, I'm much less interested in debating the question than I'm interested in hearing some opinions.
If we can keep this going and keep the spamming of the racist right to a minimum, we could hear some worthwhile opinions here.

Granted, only about 1 in 5 Americans are up to the task, but that's still a lot on a question of this magnitude. Are you one out of 5?

I'm in the Anti Castro/Mafia/CIA joint conspiracy camp. I think that NOLA DA (I forget his name) was on the right track. It's convoluted, I'm going to read the thread a bit before I get too deep into it, if I do.