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W. Seattle teen beaten bloody in possible hate crime

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SEATTLE - A 15-year-old boy from West Seattle says he was held hostage and beaten for hours, all because of the color of his skin. - W. Seattle teen beaten bloody in possible hate crime | KOMO News - Breaking News, Sports, Traffic and Weather - Seattle, Washington | News

Some strange things about this story...

The incident happened as Shane McClellan was walking home from a friend's house Tuesday around 2 a.m.

Shane's father says two men called to Shane from the top of a staircase near the intersection of 14th Avenue SW and SW Holden Street. The men asked for a light, and when Shane walked over to oblige, they knocked him to the ground and started kicking him.


The boy was 15 and walking home at 2:00am???? From a friends house. What is a 15 year old doing out at 2:00am????

Two guys call from a staircase at 2:00am asking for a light, and he goes to give them one???

I don't know, something very fishy about this story.

If this is true, then it's a damn shame, but as I said something aint right.
 
By the looks of his face and body this wasn't self induced as the infamous case of the backward "B" on the McCain supporter who said a black man did it.

Good question as to why he was out at 2AM. If real then he learned a lesson that at 2AM and two guys asks if you got a lighter you best just keep on walking.
 
My heart goes out to the kid, but his decisions are very questionable. I mean if he feels comfortable enough walking around Seattle at 2 in the morning he should know the places where he shouldn't be. After reading the article and some of the comments it seems like West Seattle was one of those places. And I don't know he his brain stopped working for the minute he went to give them a lighter, but you NEVER do that by yourself just in case something like this happens. I hope the kid makes a full recovery soon and they find the guys that did this to him. Then, hopefully the story will make more sense, because I agree with you as of now it seems questionable.
 
If this was a Black kid who was beaten by whites because of the color of his skin would you have the same doubts? Racist come in all colors and its ugly. I hope they catch these guys. btw you are right, something does seem fishy.
 


I dunno. I guess that was an expensive lesson.

I have a 14yo. At 2AM he'd better be in the bed. If he's at a friend's house he'd better be in bed. If he got his ass kicked while walking the street at 2AM, once I got over my initial reaction I'd be tempted to tell him he asked for it by doing something so darn stupid!

As for the racial aspect, I didn't click on the story yet so I have no idea whether the boy is white, black, native, asian, hispanic or Martian. If it was racially motivated that's bad... but it could just as easily have been motivated by opportunism (he was there), they didn't like his clothes, they mistook him for someone else, that's "their" neighborhood and he isn't a local, money, or whatever. Whatever the motive, getting beaten to a pulp is no fun. I hope they catch the perps, but I hope the kid learned a lesson from this: don't approach strangers after dark and don't be walking home at 2AM!


Edited to add: Okay, I read the story and see what he was saying about it being racially motivated. I don't know. If the boy has whip marks on his back, cigarette burns on the back of his neck... that sounds like it might have happened like he said. If those injuried were somehow self-inflicted I think it would be somewhat obvious from the angles of the marks and we'd be reading a very different story. :shrug: We'll see.
 
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If this was a Black kid who was beaten by whites because of the color of his skin would you have the same doubts?

What does a 15 year old walking around at 2:00am have to do with race? I did not mention race or anything even close. The circumstance of the attack, not anyones race struck me as fishy. :roll:

I think you are projecting as I made no mention of race in any reguard.

Racist come in all colors and its ugly. I hope they catch these guys. btw you are right, something does seem fishy.

So it was 2:00am on a school night. 15 year old on the streets. Two guys from a shady part of town call you over for a light. No way, something is wrong here.

Makes no sense to me.
 
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So it was 2:00am on a school night. 15 year old on the streets. Two guys from a shady part of town call you over for a light. No way, something is wrong here.

Makes no sense to me.

Why is a 15yo carrying a lighter around in the city? Not to start campfires.

What does he smoke, cigarettes weed or crack? :mrgreen:

Inquiring minds want to know.


Actually I'm suspicious that it was a drug-buy gone bad.
 
Actually I'm suspicious that it was a drug-buy gone bad.

Yep, my thoughts exactly.

It sucks to have been a cop. It makes me very suspicious of this kind of thing.
 
The boy was 15 and walking home at 2:00am???? From a friends house. What is a 15 year old doing out at 2:00am????
You didnt do much when you were a kid, didja?

2am was nothing when I was fifteen. A good night would end with me slipping back into my bedroom about the time I had to get up for school then making a face melter when I got to school to survive the day.

Ahhhh juvenile delinquency, those were the days
 
Why is a 15yo carrying a lighter around in the city? Not to start campfires.
What does he smoke, cigarettes weed or crack? :mrgreen:
Inquiring minds want to know.
Actually I'm suspicious that it was a drug-buy gone bad.


My initial response to the article was that it was probably as the kid said.
What the kid didn't say is what inquiring minds want to know.

I suspect there may be a bit of truth in both of the quoted posts.


 
If this was a Black kid who was beaten by whites because of the color of his skin would you have the same doubts? Racist come in all colors and its ugly. I hope they catch these guys. btw you are right, something does seem fishy.

I find it fishy that a 15 year old is wandering the streets at that time of day and is in possesion of a lighter!
 
I find it fishy that a 15 year old is wandering the streets at that time of day and is in possesion of a lighter!

I agree, a 15 year old shouldn't be out at two in the morning. However I do not find it unusual that he was in possesion of a lighter. I started smoking when I was 13 and I wasn't alone. Many of my peers were smoking before they turned 15.
 
I agree, a 15 year old shouldn't be out at two in the morning. However I do not find it unusual that he was in possesion of a lighter. I started smoking when I was 13 and I wasn't alone. Many of my peers were smoking before they turned 15.

It's harder these days; in my city, not only is it against the law for minors to purchase cigarettes, but the police will ticket teens observed smoking in public and they'll have to pay a fine and do community service (this happened to my son; he was stopped for walking down the street with an unlit cigarette he'd bummed off someone tucked behind his ear).
 
I can see where all the skepticism is coming from, but the only part I question is the area. I guess if it were close to his home, and he had gone that way before, then it might be understandable, but still may have been a bad drug deal.

It could also have been just as he said. I was a good, and sheltered, teenager. I would never have been out past 10p with friends, let alone by myself. My husband has told me stories of his own childhood though, and I could see it then. I don't think being out after 2a, by himself, even on a school night would have been a big deal to him. And he started smoking early in life, so he would've had a lighter.

Another possibility is that the kid was slightly, or even more than slightly, intoxicated. He was coming back from a birthday party for a friend. It would also be a good explaination for why he would be in that area so late, and do something as foolish as give strangers a light so late at night.

It easily could be a combination of any or all of the explanations, or something else entirely though.
 
FWIW, here's an update on it:

Shane McClellan, beating victim ID's attackers | West Seattle Herald / White Center News


And an excerpt from the police report that sort of blows my mind:


1) What happened to this kid sounds absolutely ****ing awful.
2) Why on earth did the cop not arrest these two guys? He found two guys who matched the age/race of the perpetrators, were located near the scene, were drinking the same kind of energy beer that the kid identified, were smoking the same kind of cigarettes from the scene, AND HAD DRIED BLOOD ALL OVER THEM. Are you ****ing kidding me?
 
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