VP Takes Full Responibility In Shooting

[26 X World Champs]

Uh...unless Clinton slipped, fell, and ACCIDENTALLY IMPALED Lewinski with his 'Slick Willey', then it doesn't even remotely fall into the same category as a hunting accident.

Yeah, you're right a blow job is not in the same category as shooting a man...

 

[26 X World Champs]

And, as I said, there's more to it than that, as noted in the phrases I used -- [refusing] to answer or cooperate with; resist or rebuff and/or obstruct[ing] or hinder[ing] any discussion -- that ALSO came from the dictionary.

And lets be honest with that Webster's cite:

Main Entry: stone·wall
Pronunciation: 'stOn -"wol
intransitive senses
1 chiefly British : to engage in obstructive parliamentary debate or delaying tactics
2 : to be uncooperative, obstructive, or evasive
transitive senses : to refuse to comply or cooperate with
- stone·wall·er noun
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/stonewall

Christ! What's your problem? I clearly (except to you apparently) stated that Cheney purposely delayed in announcing the shooting. If you disagree, fine, but please stop the bullshit semantics posts, they're a total waste of bandwidth.

You keep calling me a partisan bigot, thanks for the kind words. What does that make you then? You lack the ability to accept the conclusions of previous Republican press secretaries (Including W's first one) that Cheney mishandled this entire situation...but I'm the partisan bigot?

 

[26 X World Champs]

OMG...

Clinton makes a career sexually harasing women and lying. he commits adultery ON PURPOSE, lies about it ON POURPOSE, commits a felony of perjuring himself to protect his butt ON PURPOSE.....

and you turn around and say because his staff who bought the permits and did the paperwork for Cheney FORGOT/erred in not getting the $7 dollar bird stamp, that makes Cheney a calculating and intentional POACHER?! :rofl

Good gosh, can we PLEASE turn down the rabid, democratic Party, Bush-Bashing ILL-LOGIC and BS for one minute! It is claims like THAT which make people look at your incredulously and shake their heads! :shock:

Areyou another one of those Republican apologists who cannot stop writing about Clinton? This has nothing to do with Clinton so why not give it a rest!

Cheney made a bad mistake, he shot his friend. Do you dispute this? Then, instead of coming out immediately and advising the public he went to sleep.

Try hard to stay on subject and leave President Clinton out of this thread!

 

[Goobieman]

Christ! What's your problem? I clearly (except to you apparently) stated that Cheney purposely delayed in announcing the shooting.

A whole 12 hours, over a Saturday night.

Thats "stonewalling"?
Thats "deception"?

Only to a partisan bigot.

 

[26 X World Champs]

A whole 12 hours, over a Saturday night.

Thats "stonewalling"?
Thats "deception"?

Only to a partisan bigot.

Me thinks you're confused?

 

[aps]

Me thinks you're confused?

World Champs, the fact that Goobieman is so defensive about Cheney being accused of stonewalling says he knows there's something to it. Trust me.

 

[Billo_Really]

This incident is just another brick in wall. A wall that needs to come down via impeachment. How much longer will Congress allow the Executive branch to trash a once great country?

 

[fooligan]

This incident is just another brick in wall. A wall that needs to come down via impeachment. How much longer will Congress allow the Executive branch to trash a once great country?

I'm going to go out on a limb.

Bush doesn't need to be impeached. If he keeps on, the republicans will lose the next election anyway. This port scandal alone should be freaking people out, but we're all idiots and have no clue.

If George doesn't start acting like a conservative, I'm sorry. This whole "war on terror" is a farce if they don't block the EAU from owning 6 of our ports.

EAU in charge of our shipping ports?

Like letting the Chinese take over the NYPD.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by fooligan
I'm going to go out on a limb.

Bush doesn't need to be impeached. If he keeps on, the republicans will lose the next election anyway. This port scandal alone should be freaking people out, but we're all idiots and have no clue.

If George doesn't start acting like a conservative, I'm sorry. This whole "war on terror" is a farce if they don't block the EAU from owning 6 of our ports.

EAU in charge of our shipping ports?

Like letting the Chinese take over the NYPD

In light of globalization and the WTO, I'm not sure if the United States even exists anymore. We could just be a collection of assets in various Chinese portfolio's.

 

[fooligan]

In light of globalization and the WTO, I'm not sure if the United States even exists anymore. We could just be a collection of assets in various Chinese portfolio's.

I was listening to Michael Savage a few months ago, and he was freaking out because there were so many container-cargo ships lined up off San Fran. All from China, most of the stuff headed for WalMart.

We need tariffs. I'm all for cheap goods, but dammit I'm sick of family & friends being unemployed.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by fooligan
I was listening to Michael Savage a few months ago, and he was freaking out because there were so many container-cargo ships lined up off San Fran. All from China, most of the stuff headed for WalMart.

We need tariffs. I'm all for cheap goods, but dammit I'm sick of family & friends being unemployed.

How about a year ago when people were trying to make it illegal to desecrate the flag (that was made in China).

 

[fooligan]

How about a year ago when people were trying to make it illegal to desecrate the flag (that was made in China).

Irony's a bitch

 

[Goobieman]

Me thinks you're confused?

Nope. Not me. You, perhaps, but not me.

Cheney called the police at 1830 on Saturday. Even THEY decided that waiting until the next morning to come out and take a report was OK -- but waiting to call the press until Sunday AM is "stonewalling? Puh-leaze.

And, where is the "deception"? When did Cheney or anyone else try to represent the situation as anything other than exactly what it was?

You people are SO desperate -- if, after 5 years in office, you think this is THE thing that will bring down Cheney, you;re more nuts than I thought.

 

[Goobieman]

We need tariffs. I'm all for cheap goods, but dammit I'm sick of family & friends being unemployed.

Welcome to capitalism. Tell me why a company, that exists to make a profit, would not chose to move a job somehwere where it can pay the worker 1% what it would pay him here?

And, what role do unions pay in this? High wages, big benefits -- all these things cost money, money that a corporation doesnt have to pay overseas.

Further, why havent your family and friends taken it upon themselves to learn the skills necessary to remain marketable in a changing market?

 

[fooligan]

dradle, dradle, dradle made of clay

Sod off. I'm not anti Jew, like yew.

 

[aps]

Nope. Not me. You, perhaps, but not me.

Cheney called the police at 1830 on Saturday. Even THEY decided that waiting until the next morning to come out and take a report was OK -- but waiting to call the press until Sunday AM is "stonewalling? Puh-leaze.

And, where is the "deception"? When did Cheney or anyone else try to represent the situation as anything other than exactly what it was?

You people are SO desperate -- if, after 5 years in office, you think this is THE thing that will bring down Cheney, you;re more nuts than I thought.

I love seeing you get so angry over the accusations. If you really thought nothing of them, you wouldn't even be acknowledging them. You remind me of Ron Christie.

On a separate note, so last night on Keith Olbermann, he pointed out some serious discrepancies in the stories. Cheney claimed he wanted Armstrong to report the incident since she was an eye witness. Interesting. Apparently, she was 100 yards away and had initially stated that the first thing she saw were the Secret Service running over to the vice president and she thought something had happened to him involving his heart. Wow. That's a very good eyewitness, isn't it? The first thing she sees are the Secret Service running towards the VP, but now she says she saw how Whittingtom came up behind Cheney. Hmmmm.

Also, Cheney admits he had a beer at lunch. She said separately that there was no alcohol at lunch--that they were all drinking Dr. Peppers. Oh really?

Finally, she says that she could see (from 100 yards away) that Whittington was talking, so she knew he was okay. However, in the interview with Cheney on Fox News, he says he spoke to Whittington and that he did not speak back to him.

Armstrong, owner of the Armstrong Ranch where the accident occurred, said Whittington was bleeding after he was shot and Cheney was very apologetic.

"It broke the skin," she said of the shotgun pellets. "It knocked him silly. But he was fine. He was talking. His eyes were open. It didn't get in his eyes or anything like that.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney.ap/

HUME: And Mr. Whittington was conscious, unconscious, what?

CHENEY: He was conscious.

HUME: What did you say?

CHENEY: He was — well I said, "Harry, I had no idea you were there."

HUME: What did he say?

CHENEY: He didn't respond. He was bleeding, conscious at that point, but he didn't — he was I'm sure stunned, obviously, still trying to figure out what had happened to him. And the doc was fantastic.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,185013,00.html

Interesting. Very interesting.

 

[fooligan]

Interesting. Very interesting.

Ask me what I said after slamming head-on into a Jeep in a Celica. ASK

 

[aps]

Ask me what I said after slamming head-on into a Jeep in a Celica. ASK

"Interesting. Very interesting"?

 

[fooligan]

"Interesting. Very interesting"?

WRONG. I think.

I have no idea I said.

The shock of the moment always screws with your mind.

*POW*

 

[aps]

WRONG. I think.

I have no idea I said.

The shock of the moment always screws with your mind.

*POW*

And your point would be what? I am making a statement that there are discrepancies in the story. Assuming those facts that I laid out above are true, are you going to say that there are no discrepancies? I'm not calling anyone a liar. I am not saying that anyone is making up crap. I am merely pointing out facts that have been presented to me. I hope that is okay with you, Mr. fooligan.

 

[fooligan]

aps - tough chick? I thought you were a dude. Well, at least I have another chapter in my mastubatory mind-porn

 

[aps]

aps - tough chick? I thought you were a dude. Well, at least I have another chapter in my mastubatory mind-porn

LOL Yes, I am all woman, if you know what I mean....

My picture is in the picture thread.....somewhere.

 

[Goobieman]

Sod off. I'm not anti Jew, like yew.

OK, I give up -- what meds did you stop taking?

IN other words -- what are you talking about?

 

[fooligan]

OK, I give up -- what meds did you stop taking?

IN other words -- what are you talking about?

*looks at your sig*

 

[fooligan]

LOL Yes, I am all woman, if you know what I mean....

My picture is in the picture thread.....somewhere.

Sweet... something to do tomorrow... lol