gfytt689 said:
vegans are taking it to an extreme because they dont eat meat, they dont drink milkk from a cow, they dont have bread unless its made entirely of soy. everything in a vegans life is soy. they have veggie burgers on a soy bun. i dont get whats wrong with eating an egg, or milk, and i think thats taking it to the extreme.
99.9% of bread has no milk in it. I have never picked up a loaf of bread and had to put it back. Milk contributes to the veal industry. There is not a single milk producer that doesn't sell the male calves to make veal. And veal is torture IMO. Eggs, besides the fact that they aren't very good for you, are taken from chickens raised in incredibly cruel conditions. They are debeaked with no pain killers, etc, etc. I could continue listing the horrors, but I have a feeling you don't want to hear it, and it won't change your mind anyway.
Bro said:
Hey,
Yes, I agree that the majority of a vegetarians diet tends to be soy or tofu. I think it's such a waste of time trying to adhere to strict dietary rules. If I see an egg, I'll cook it and eat it. It has loads of iron, albumin, and cholesterol (which is bad if taken too much). Such quantities of iron and protein are difficult to come by in the plant world. Red meat for instance has huge amounts of iron (heme iron). This heme iron is far more easily absorbed by the human body than any other type of iron. Iron defficiency is very common and far more so in the vegetarian population. Most vegetarians must resort to supplements and that's something that I personally would not like to do. Us omnivores truly have the best of both worlds.
Bro
Umm...the majority of my diet is starch, just like everyones diet should be. After that is vegetables, than beans/tofu, than fats. I try not to eat to much tofu, because beans have a lot of iron. My iron is just fine. If other vegans/vegetarians do not eat a balanced diet, it is hardly the fault of vegetarianism. The only supplement I take is B12, and the cow you eat takes the same supplement. No animal produces B12 in enough of a quantity that they don't need it from elsewhere.
mikhail said:
How many vegetarian athletes are there?
:2wave: I consider myself an athlete. I run about 3 miles a day, more on Sunday. I ran a 10-mile race last October. I was training to run a half marathon this year (13 miles) but I tripped up the stairs, and broke my foot. It was a very graceful moment. :lol:
But I suppose you're looking for pros huh?
Hank Aaron (home run champion in major league baseball)
B J Armstrong (US Basketball star)
Al Beckles (body builder)
Sorya Bonali (ice skater)
Les Brown (veteran runner)
Peter Burwash (tennis)
Andreas Cahling (body builder)
Andreas Cahling (bodybuilder)
Chris Campbell (1980 world champion wrestler)
Joanna Conway (ice skater)
Sylvia Cranston (triathlete)
Sally Eastall (Marathon runner - UK No 2, vegan)
Di Edwards (runner, Olympic semi-finalist)
Katie Fitzgibbon (marathon runner)
Clare Francis (sailer)
Louis Freitas (body builder)
Carol Gould (marathon runner)
Estelle Gray (cyclist)
Sammy Green (runner)
Ruth Heidrich (3-time Ironman finisher, marathoner, age-group record holder, Pres. Vegetarian Society of Honolulu) (vegan)
Sally Hibberd (British Women's Mountain Bike Champion)
Sharon Hounsell (Miss Wales Bodybuilding Champion)
Desmond Howard (formerly w/Washington Redskins, now w/Jacksonville Jaguars)
Roger Hughes (Welsh National Ski Champion)
David Johnson (BAA coach)
Kathy Johnson (Olympic Gymnast)
Alan Jones (British ski jumper)
Billie Jean King (tennis champion)
Killer Kowalski (wrestler)
Jack LaLanne (Fitness guru) (vegan)
Donnie LaLonde (Former Light Heavyweight Champion of the World. (Lost title to Sugar Ray Leonard))
Tony LaRussa (Manager of St. Louis Cardinals - US team)
Silken Laumann (Olympic rower)
Judy Leden (British, European & World Hang Gliding champion)
Marv Levey (Buffalo Bills Coach)
Jutta Müller (multiple Windsurfing World Cup Champion)
Jack Maitland (triathlete and fell runner)
Cheryl Marek (cyclist)
Leslie Marx (fencer;1996 woman's epee national champion)
Kirsty McDermott (runner)
Lindford McFarquar (body builder)
Robert Millar (cyclist)
Katherine Monbiot (world champion arm wrestler and nutritionist) (vegan)
Monika Montsho (weightlifter, 2 x runnerup GB Championships 60kg, NW woman weightlifter of the year 1991)
Edwin Moses
Martina Navratilova (Retired Tennis Champion)
Julie Ann Niewiek (Basketball commentator)
Paavo Nurmi
Robert Parish (Center - Warriors, Celtics, Hornets, Bulls)
Bill Pearl (Bodybuilder, Mr America)
Bill Pearl (Mr. Universe and bodybuilder)
Anthony Peeler (NBA Grizzlies basketball player)
Dave Scott (five time winner of the Ironman Triathlon) (vegan)
Debbie Spaeth-Herring (Georgia State power-lifter)
Lucy Stephens (triathlete - vegan)
Jacques Vaughn (All American point guard, #1-ranked Univ of KS Jayhawks)
Kirsty Wade (runner)
Bill Walton (basketball player)
In case you're interested, here's some other famous vegetarians/vegans:
Louisa May Alcott, writer
Clara Barton, nurse and the first president of the American Red Cross
Charles Darwin, author and scientist
Leonardo da Vinci, artist
Isadora Duncan, dancer
Thomas Edison, inventor
Albert Einstein, physicist
Ben Franklin, American statesman, philosopher and scientist
Mahatma Gandhi, Indian independence leader (duh)
Jerry Garcia, musician, member of Grateful Dead
Sylvester Graham, inventor
Doug Henning, magician
John Harvey Kellogg, physician and scientist
Linda McCartney
Bob Marley, musician
John Milton, writer
Sir Isaac Newton, physicist
River Phoenix, actor
Plato, physicist and writer
AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of ISKCON (International Society for Krishna Consciousness)
Pythagoras, Greek philosopher
Swami Satchidananda, spiritual leader
Albert Schweitzer, musician, physician, Nobel Peace Prize winner
George Bernard Shaw, writer and Nobel Prize Laureate in Literature
Mary Wollstonecraft Shelly, English novelist
Percey Bysshe Shelley, English poet
Upton Sinclair, author
Isaac Bashevis Singer, writer & Nobel Prize winner
Socrates, Greek philosopher
Benjamin Spock, author and pediatrician
Henry David Thoreau, writer
Leo Tolstoy, author
Vincent Van Gogh, painter
Voltaire, French writer
HG Wells, author
John Wesley, religious leader