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U.K. Supreme Court Rules Trans Women Can’t Be Defined as Women

I have no interest in obeying your myth that men can transubstantiate into women by uttering the magic incantation "she/her".
She insists that does magic transubstantiation is medical science.
You are free to believe that, and if you are an adult you are free to perform whatever ritualistic self-mutilations you want in the service of this belief. But most of us don't want to play this game.
Indeed. I'm okay with saying she with someone who does their best to look like a woman. But that shouldn't entitle anyone to possess my thoughts and tell me how I must conceptualize what a woman is.
 
Once America follows the rest of the world except Canada, and puts this issue to rest once and for all, I'll stop worrying about it entirely. And then you can huff and puff as much as you want and no one will care enough to argue with you, no more than I want to debate a flat-earther. (y)
The huffing and puffing releases endorphins, which makes him feel good about himself as he looks down on you.

Virtue signaling is addictive in that way and operates as a conditioned response.
 
The huffing and puffing releases endorphins, which makes him feel good about himself as he looks down on you.

Virtue signaling is addictive in that way and operates as a conditioned response.
If you disagree with some of these people instead of arguing with you they act like complete snobs. I think it's because they know their viewpoint is wrong they want it to be true and think saying it's true will somehow make it that way that's not the way it works.
 
So you're reduced to insults? That's a sure sign of a well thought out view point 🤣
I'm not insulting you. I gave you links to local medical sources that could explain it to you and answer your questions about the topic. They could even get you a PCP who has expeince with gay men's health needs. Certainly you trust Drs and psychologists to know the subject, don't you?
 
So you're reduced to insults? That's a sure sign of a well thought out view point 🤣
I am not reduced to insults. I have great and fantastic insults. People say, "Helix, your insults are the best insults. You should do that for a living." Maybe I will.
 
If you disagree with some of these people instead of arguing with you they act like complete snobs. I think it's because they know their viewpoint is wrong they want it to be true and think saying it's true will somehow make it that way that's not the way it works.
The majority of them think that their being an unquestioning, ultra-conformist leftist means they are smart.

They don't have the intelligence necessary to understand what an utterly stupid attitude that is because there are obviously intelligent and stupid people on both sides of the aisle.
 
I'm not insulting you. I gave you links to local medical sources that could explain it to you and answer your questions about the topic.
I don't need that. If anybody tells me I don't care who they are or how much they paid to go to school or for how long. That gender identity is a more relevant Factor of a human being than their sex to the point where it overrides the other. To the point where they consider someone who's male to be female they are insane. They have taken absolute and total leave from reality. And I think it's predominantly to virtue signal.
They could even get you a PCP who has expeince with gay men's health needs. Certainly you trust Drs and psychologists to know the subject, don't you?
No, not when they're telling me something I know to be false.
 
I don't need that. If anybody tells me I don't care who they are or how much they paid to go to school or for how long. That gender identity is a more relevant Factor of a human being than their sex to the point where it overrides the other. To the point where they consider someone who's male to be female they are insane. They have taken absolute and total leave from reality. And I think it's predominantly to virtue signal.

No, not when they're telling me something I know to be false.
Lisa has a very rigid and one dimensional notion of what a gay man must be and you aren't it.

She will never accept you until you become a flaming Marxist queen.
 
The majority of them think that their being an unquestioning, ultra-conformist leftist means they are smart.

They don't have the intelligence necessary to understand what an utterly stupid attitude that is because there are obviously intelligent and stupid people on both sides of the aisle.
So one of the interesting aspects of human behavior that I'm utterly fascinated with is our willingness to trust somebody based on the how certain they seem. This is something that's used in a lot of cults, also among conspiracy theorists. And oddly enough with an accident anywhere where you have somebody that's treated as an authority.

They will just declare something no matter how ridiculous to be an absolute fact. And if you dare question them they will go on a tirade about how they spent more time and more money getting credentials and therefore they're Superior to you and if they say something that you know to be wrong it's really you that's wrong. It's actually works on people. Look at how many people are unquestioning believers of the climate catastrophe. Despite in my lifetime being lied to for 35 years about it.

To make people feel stupid for daring to disagree. If you're willing to risk appearing stupid by questioning something someone insists upon this way you're probably the smartest person in the room.

I've actually interacted with flat Earth people. And you know what they do when you start pointing out things that cut holes in their philosophy? They act exactly like some people on here. Baby come quite combative and talk down to you as though you're the dumbest person on earth.

So I've been around in the world long enough to know that whenever you hear this it means they're lying.
 
I don't need that. If anybody tells me I don't care who they are or how much they paid to go to school or for how long. That gender identity is a more relevant Factor of a human being than their sex to the point where it overrides the other. To the point where they consider someone who's male to be female they are insane. They have taken absolute and total leave from reality. And I think it's predominantly to virtue signal.

I love when you broadcast just how uninformed your opinions are. Its makes this so much more enjoyable when you did your own hole.

BTW, The conspiracy theory forum is down the hall.
No, not when they're telling me something I know to be false.
Given the choice between a rando on the 'net and a Dr or a PhD who has dedicated their life to medical science, I know who I would choose, and its not the internet rando.


Lisa has a very rigid and one dimensional notion of what a gay man must be and you aren't it.

She will never accept you until you become a flaming Marxist queen.
A gay man is a male who is attracted to other males. What is your definition of a homosexual man?
 
Lisa has a very rigid and one dimensional notion of what a gay man must be and you aren't it.
Well I've been part of many groups that have done this exact same thing. Trying to other someone for not agreeing with what they're supposed to agree with.

Ugly enough this is a common thing among religions.
She will never accept you until you become a flaming Marxist queen.
Unlike her I don't need acceptance. I don't fear or even feel anything in particularly when someone says being gay is a lifestyle or it's a choice. I don't need the dominate this. People who are gay know. People who aren't probably never will and that's okay.
 
I love when you broadcast just how uninformed your opinions are. Its makes this so much more enjoyable when you did your own hole.

BTW, The conspiracy theory forum is down the hall.
Ditto
Given the choice between a rando on the 'net and a Dr or a PhD who has dedicated their life to medical science, I know who I would choose, and its not the internet rando.
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A gay man is a male who is attracted to other males. What is your definition of a homosexual man?
 
Europe was faster than us getting into this mess, and it never became as much of a culture-war-fervor item (where people feel the need to defend it absolutely because The Bad People Oppose It), so, they are a bit faster than us, it seems, in getting out of it.

Another important - and unanimous! - step in that journey:


It surprised me as hell that the UK Top Court beat the US Supreme Court to it
 
It surprised me as hell that the UK Top Court beat the US Supreme Court to it
I think there's a little more social pressure in the UK against this.

They shut down tavistock which was a castration clinic. And essentially banned any kind of medical intervention on someone under the age of majority.
 
I think there's a little more social pressure in the UK against this.

They shut down tavistock which was a castration clinic. And essentially banned any kind of medical intervention on someone under the age of majority.


CASTRATION CLINIC! Gracious me!
 
The next ruling conservatives hope for: Top Court rules that trans people are not people.

After all, what is conservatism if you don't have groups of extremely vulnerable people to abuse?

It ruled that Trans-People are not people?


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Trans erasure…. More v-coding awaits… joy… the entire premise of TERFism and anti trans is the claim trans women are doing this to rape women. They at least dont have to suffer the inhumane practice of v-coding.

LOL These terms!

Trans erasure
V-Coding
TERFism
 
Headlines say it has ruled on “the definition of a woman”. Except it hasn’t. As the court says, in paragraph 2 of its judgment: “It is not the role of the court to adjudicate on the arguments in the public domain on the meaning of gender or sex, nor is it to define the meaning of the word ‘woman’ other than when it is used in the provisions of the Equality Act."

That is the legal ruling. The definition of a woman. They are not saying you legally have to use it, except with regards to laws, you do.

Sounds pretty defined... just like an unborn human minutes before birth is not a Person.


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The statement that Mr Person made was not outrageous. Dehumanizing minority groups such as transgendered people is part of the GOPs culture war. Its SOP for fascism.

It is literally not dehumanizing a person by calling them a man or a woman. It might be desexafying, or something strange though. But nobody is saying that a transperson is not a human. Japanese in WWII were dehumanized by referring to them as monkeys. THAT is dehumanizing.


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I think what this is emblematic of is they were further down the hole. They just hit the bottom of it sooner than we did they jumped into it before we did.


It is creepy the mere mention of castration clinics. That's one hell of a mutilation. You would think an individual requesting a castration has to trigger calls from others for therapists to intervene; instead he is directed to a castrator! Incredible!
 
Headlines say it has ruled on “the definition of a woman”. Except it hasn’t. As the court says, in paragraph 2 of its judgment: “It is not the role of the court to adjudicate on the arguments in the public domain on the meaning of gender or sex, nor is it to define the meaning of the word ‘woman’ other than when it is used in the provisions of the Equality Act."

Got through the first page and then saw four more and realized this could be a difficult study, BUT your post, Aristaeus, requires a thank you, BUT that term they wrote into that piece "public domain" simply means folks aren't stopped from speaking or writing out in public areas about their ideas that might be different from all those high-end legal folks on that Supreme Court, which is a freedom of speech right they have to affirm in such a ruling.

The "meat" of it, though, is that in the Equality Act that trans-gender stuff ain't gonna fly and that is some serious business for a whole bunch of legal reasons that would take thousands of words to fully explain.

Still, it was kind of you to quote that here, Aristaeus.
 
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