Trump plays Gun owners for Chumps

[apdst]

The unbridled ignorance of this post is hilariously stunning.

Why are you defending clinton, if you're not one of her supporters?

 

[SMTA]

I've researched them, hence the reason I say they're no better options.

A dead dog is a better option than Trump.

Put away the Trumpkin Kool-Aid.

 

[SMTA]

Why are you defending clinton, if you're not one of her supporters?

Yet again your posting ignorance flourishes.

 

[apdst]

Yet again your posting ignorance flourishes.

Yet again all you can offer are insults. It explains a lot, actually.

 

[apdst]

A dead dog is a better option than Trump.

Put away the Trumpkin Kool-Aid.

Tell us what do bad about Donald Trump.

 

[SMTA]

Tell us what do bad about Donald Trump.

If you are unable to easily all of his shortcomings which are highlighted daily by numerous news sources, and his own big mouth, then you are unable to rationally evaluate him.

It only requires common sense.

 

[Ikari]

I think the OP title was a misprint. It should have read Massachusetts Proves Liberal Anti-gun Democrats Played Their Gun Owning Citizens for Chumps.

Government has been playing its citizens for chumps for decades now.

But as it relates to Trump, we don't know where he'd actually come down on for gun rights. He has no record, and all we can go off of is what he runs his mouth about, which we know to be mostly BS and whatever gets play at the time.

As for MA...I expect their new draconian law to be challenged swiftly, and slowly filter through the courts. We'll see how the courts come down on it, though I have no confidence that they'll come down correctly on the side of gun rights.

 

[Ikari]

So, maybe I should vote for Hillary, who is DEFINITELY anti-gun?


Uh huh. No.

You can vote for Gary Johnson who is DEFINITELY pro-gun.

 

[apdst]

If you are unable to easily [see?] all of his shortcomings which are highlighted daily by numerous news sources, and his own big mouth, then you are unable to rationally evaluate him.

It only requires common sense.

If he's so bad, you should, with your superior intelligence, be able to post 150 words in just a couple of minutes convincing us why he is so bad.

 

[apdst]

You can vote for Gary Johnson who is DEFINITELY pro-gun.

Johnson sides with Sanders 73% Of the time. Why would we want to vote for him?

 

[Ikari]

Johnson sides with Sanders 73% Of the time. Why would we want to vote for him?

Statistics are completely made up, 43% of the population knows that.

I don't know why you'd want to vote for a pro-gun, proven small government candidate like Gary Johnson, when we could have a bigger, more intrusive government candidate like Hillary or Trump :roll:

 

[apdst]

Statistics are completely made up, 43% of the population knows that.

I don't know why you'd want to vote for a pro-gun, proven small government candidate like Gary Johnson, when we could have a bigger, more intrusive government candidate like Hillary or Trump :roll:

That's according to Johnson, not statistics. He admitted it.

Johnson: I agree with 73 percent of what Sanders says

 

[Ikari]

That's according to Johnson, not statistics. He admitted it.

Johnson: I agree with 73 percent of what Sanders says

“Now, that’s the side of Bernie that has to do with pro-choice, pro-marriage equality, let’s stop with the military interventions, that there is crony capitalism, that government really isn’t fair when it comes to this level playing field, legalize marijuana,” he said. “Look, 73 percent of what Bernie says I agree with. We come to a T in the road when it comes to economics. I would really argue that if we absolutely had a fair system of economics, that free markets, that we would do a lot better than going down the– going down the path of socialism.”

He then went on to say that libertarians agree with socialism, as long as it’s voluntary.

“And look, libertarians agree with socialism as long as it’s voluntary,” he said. “But, when it’s forced, that’s tyranny. So, that’s the libertarian perspective, but I think there’s so much in common, that just factually speaking … take a look, Bernie Sanders supporters, at who you next side with.”

Yeah...that's so horrible, isn't it? Reducing government interference and corporate cronyism, yeah? But they differ on economics and Johnson wants us to return to free-market capitalism. Oh the horrors.

You're right, he's way out there. Better to vote for bigger, more intrusive government than smaller, responsible government.

 

[yankintx]

You're right, there'd are. There's the economy, the terrorist threat, taxes and we know just how bad Clinton is going to **** the country in all three areas. She's already promised to raise taxes on the middle class.

And we know how the Don will conduct himself as Pres

No thanks!!

 

[yankintx]

Who claimed he took any?

I dont know

Its not an issue that drives me to the polls, couldn't give a rats ass about guns

 

[apdst]

And we know how the Don will conduct himself as Pres

No thanks!!

Yeah? What do you know?

 

[SMTA]

If he's so bad, you should, with your superior intelligence, be able to post 150 words in just a couple of minutes convincing us why he is so bad.

I only teach those capable of learning.

You constantly show that you are incapable of learning.

 

[apdst]

I only teach those capable of learning.

You constantly show that you are incapable of learning.

You constantly show that you have nothing to offer but insults.

 

[SMTA]

Yeah...that's so horrible, isn't it? Reducing government interference and corporate cronyism, yeah? But they differ on economics and Johnson wants us to return to free-market capitalism. Oh the horrors.

You're right, he's way out there. Better to vote for bigger, more intrusive government than smaller, responsible government.

As usual, he is incapable of understanding and reasoning.

Those are basic GOP tenants and he is unable to comprehend their relevance.

 

[Common Sense 1]

this should be read by every gun owner who believes that Donald Trump is going to be their champion in the White House and appoint new judges who take the NRA line.

Donald Trump's changing gun positions - CNNPolitics.com

Like many other positions - Trump on the Second Amendment has been all over the map and what he believes depends on when he said it and if he needs people to vote for him.

This is really telling about Trump and how he will say anything to try and get elected - even if it means doing a 180 on his position on certain aspects of gun control.

If you want go ahead and complain about Trump. But we know without a doubt what Crooked Hillary will do to the 2nd amendment if she is elected.

As a senator from New York she voted for every gun control bill.

In an interview on ABC’s “This Week” with George Stephanopoulos on Sunday, Hillary Clinton refused to say whether or not the right to bear arms is a constitutional right.

At a recent appearance in Hartford, Conn., she pledged that gun control would be at the top of her to-do list, no matter the strength of the opposition.


Clinton is as anti-gun as they come!
John F. Kennedy was proudly an NRA member!

 

[Goshin]

You can vote for Gary Johnson who is DEFINITELY pro-gun.

I could. The problem is that Gary Johnson will NOT be president, will NOT win enough votes to have any real influence on policy, and in short will NOT change one damn thing.

It would just made it a smidge easier for AntiSaint Hillary (the Corrupt) to slide into the Oval Orfice.

 

[Ikari]

I could. The problem is that Gary Johnson will NOT be president,

Neither will Trump, so might as well vote for Johnson.

 

[Goshin]

Neither will Trump, so might as well vote for Johnson.

The odds of Trump being President, and the odds of Johnson being president, are not of the same order of magnitude by far.

Right now Trump is running about 40-50% depending on who you believe. Johnson, less than 5%.


I'll see your apple and raise you an atom bomb.

 

[Absentglare]

The party of the president picks most of the judges. we KNOW that the Democrats will pick gun banners.

No "we" don't.

We don't know who Trump will pick for USSC justices but chances are-we will get the same district court judges that we'd get if Rubio or cruz were president and almost all the same court of appeals judges.

so if you are a gun owner what is the better choice?

We don't know what Trump would do either.

Hillary is probably more in favor of gun control than Trump, but one would be a fool to claim that there is a gargantuan gap between their two stated positions on gun control.

 

[Ikari]

The odds of Trump being President, and the odds of Johnson being president, are not of the same order of magnitude by far.

Right now Trump is running about 40-50% depending on who you believe. Johnson, less than 5%.


I'll see your apple and raise you an atom bomb.

trumps odds are listed somewhere around the 10% mark. Might as well vote for a quality candidate instead of another republocrat empty suit