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Just saying these reality tv shows product conflict, otherwise it would be boring to watch them. In some cases no matter how much drama is added they are still boring to watch.
I understand that, but that's not really the point. There is no doubt that men like this exist, and clearly women claim to hate these guys yet they are quite common and the seem to be quite successful with women. Instead of complaining about "negging" why don't they stop letting it work? It seems to me like women complain about it because they know this stuff works, but they don't want to admit it out of fear more men will start doing it. It's like the "the lady protests too much me thinks."
Personally, I think the bigger problem is anyone watching 'The Bachelorette' and walking away thinking they have accurate representation of anyone (or any group.)
In those conditions where the film crew follows this "reality" around in the form of a show it makes sense for someone to become the "Toxic Masculinity" the article goes on about, and to answer your question the 'The Bachelor' produces quite a few villains as well. Perhaps not a mirror of what we are calling Toxic Masculinity, but perhaps something we could call Toxic Femininity where some contestant ends up removed from the other girls by being overly judgmental, combative, and effectively there for their own benefit.
Besides, the show overall has a horrible success rate at producing long term relationships for whoever "wins."
Just saying these reality tv shows product conflict, otherwise it would be boring to watch them. In some cases no matter how much drama is added they are still boring to watch.
Want To See What Toxic Masculinity Looks Like? Watch 'The Bachelorette.'
So, I can agree with women who say that men like this are horrible people, but if women really believe that why don't they just stop dating them? They seem pretty easy to spot. I mean how much you want to bet this D-bag actually makes it pretty far along into the season of this show? Guys wouldn't behave this way if they didn't think it was successful. I guarantee you this **** bag has an easier time meeting women than a lot of better men. Instead of complaining about the existence of men like this just don't date them. Don't marry them, don't have their kids, and they will go away.
Is there such a thing as Toxic Femininity? Why or why not?
Yeah, the majority of that stuff is staged anyways.Agreed. Pseudo-reality TV isn't worth the time, and is actually very far removed from reality.
Want To See What Toxic Masculinity Looks Like? Watch 'The Bachelorette.'
So, I can agree with women who say that men like this are horrible people, but if women really believe that why don't they just stop dating them? They seem pretty easy to spot. I mean how much you want to bet this D-bag actually makes it pretty far along into the season of this show? Guys wouldn't behave this way if they didn't think it was successful. I guarantee you this **** bag has an easier time meeting women than a lot of better men. Instead of complaining about the existence of men like this just don't date them. Don't marry them, don't have their kids, and they will go away.
Is there such a thing as Toxic Femininity? Why or why not?
You make the mistake of assuming that women want what they say they want. This is very often not true. What you call toxicity is a large part of the appeal of these guys. Nice guys finish last in part because that is not what a lot of women want, they want someone who can get their motor running, and keep it running.
Yeah, the majority of that stuff is staged anyways.
What is funny is they will claim up and down that you're wrong like somehow everyone is blind and can't see the pattern of behavior. Furthermore, it's just scientific fact that women are on average more attracted to those kind of guys.
Because they have been shamed into silence by the feminists, "you dear are strong enough, but think of all of your sisters, a lot of them will get hurt if men know that women very often want it raw and hard, acts which the law is increasingly criminalizing of course because MEN SUCK!.....we just cant tell the truth when asked, tell everyone that you like the easy guys, maybe even a cuck but dont call it that cause we dont want the men to resist the yoke, and remember, you are doing this for your sisters, this is the right thing to do, because of just one clit possessor gets hurt it is war with men.....who suck.
Well, firstly, most women actually don't date guys like that these days, let alone marry them. Not younger ones, anyway. In the younger generations, those guys seem to do ok in the first couple years of adulthood when most women aren't looking for anything but some fun, and their prospects worsen considerably in the following decade.
For those women who still do wind up with men like that, it's because those women were trained from birth that being treated that way is acceptable. They are further trained that their entire concept of worth hinges on whether a man thinks they are worth anything.
The idea of toxic masculinity is really just feminist bull****. In reality women are attracted to the very guy they are claiming is toxic and unappealing. They are in fact more attracted to that kind of guy when they are ovulating, but according to feminists it's bad and biological fact is wrong. I say bull**** to them and their stupid and ignorant claims that touchy and feely girly boys is what women want.
Not sure you can really chalk this up to women having low self-esteem, or women being stuck in the past with their attractions. We live in a post-modern world where, on paper, anyone can be anything to anyone. Perhaps, given that, there's something to be said for people still choosing a mid-20th century partnership style.
Also, it's a problem for many people that their self-worth hinges on what their partner thinks of them. Most people at some stage in their lives seek validation through partnerships and relationships. Some outgrow that and some don't. Most relationships in general are just a couple of people sharing experiences. and then they create a joint narrative in order to tell themselves that they have some kind of special life together in order to create a sense of security, whether real or imagined. Arguably all of humanity is looking for security. The relationship track is just one method.
The Bachelor(ette) still has a large following from all over, so there's an interest in seeing these narratives play out still. It may be self-deluded for some but a real aspiration for others, who are we to say? My point is... in an ideal world there should be a place for both. If people want to live out that narrative then let them do it. They can learn what it's about for themselves. When I was younger I was into the traditional narrative. I tried it and it didn't work. Then I got jealous that it worked for others and not for me. Then at some point I stopped caring because it's hard to judge anyone being on the outside looking in. So I lived my own life and did personal development, and I met my life partner after that.
It's difficult to be so formulaic about these things.
Also, it's a problem for many people that their self-worth hinges on what their partner thinks of them. Most people at some stage in their lives seek validation through partnerships and relationships. Some outgrow that and some don't.
Not sure you can really chalk this up to women having low self-esteem, or women being stuck in the past with their attractions. We live in a post-modern world where, on paper, anyone can be anything to anyone. Perhaps, given that, there's something to be said for people still choosing a mid-20th century partnership style.
Also, it's a problem for many people that their self-worth hinges on what their partner thinks of them. Most people at some stage in their lives seek validation through partnerships and relationships. Some outgrow that and some don't. Most relationships in general are just a couple of people sharing experiences. and then they create a joint narrative in order to tell themselves that they have some kind of special life together in order to create a sense of security, whether real or imagined. Arguably all of humanity is looking for security. The relationship track is just one method.
The Bachelor(ette) still has a large following from all over, so there's an interest in seeing these narratives play out still. It may be self-deluded for some but a real aspiration for others, who are we to say? My point is... in an ideal world there should be a place for both. If people want to live out that narrative then let them do it. They can learn what it's about for themselves. When I was younger I was into the traditional narrative. I tried it and it didn't work. Then I got jealous that it worked for others and not for me. Then at some point I stopped caring because it's hard to judge anyone being on the outside looking in. So I lived my own life and did personal development, and I met my life partner after that.
It's difficult to be so formulaic about these things.
Why doesn't anyone ever come up with a term like Toxic Femininity?
I don't think either form of toxicity exists. My point is that only masculinity would be attacked in this way and the motives would never be questioned. But if the roles were reversed, the motives would be the main topic. And you've unwittingly proven my point.
Bingo. It is acceptable to attack men, male behavior and masculinity, but attack women, female behavior, and femininity in the same way and watch the fireworks.
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