Religion of Peace?

[tr1414]

If followed correctly, which it is by about 95% I would think of all those who are Muslim, it is. One of the five pillars is peace. That exact idea-peace. The extremists believe that there are six pillars the last of which is jihad which is a righteous war. This righteous war according to that side wipes out the pillar of peace.

And don't post those quotes again, sick of seeing that sickness. Your point has been made with them, but they are invalidated by the fifth pillar.

Well, maybe YOU think so... there's more... all of the following are in Muhammad's own words


Muslim:C31B20N4645 "Whoever cheerfully accepts Allah as his Lord, Islam as his Religion and Muhammad as his Apostle is entitled to enter Paradise. There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher). That act is Jihad.

Bukhari:V4B52N33 "Nobody who dies and finds Paradise would wish to come back to this life even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back go be killed and martyred again. For it is good to kill unbelivers."

Ishaq:397 "There is no escape in death, so death for Allah's sake is better than all one can amass in life. Let not the unbelivers deceive you and be not deceived by it. Let fighting and the reward which Allah holds out to you be the most important thing."

Qur'an 8:73 "The infidels aid one another. Let us do the same so that they (non-Muslims) will have anarchy in the land. Those who submit to Islam and fight and are martyred in Allah's Cause are good Muslims."

Ishaq:414 "If you kill us, the true religion is ours. And to be killed for the truth is to find favor with Allah. If you think that we are fools, know that the opinion of those who oppose Islam is misleading and means nothing to us. We are men of war who get the utmost for it. We inflict painful punishment on those who oppose us. If you insult Allah's Apostle, Allah will slay you. You are cursed, rude fellow! You utter filth, and then throw it at the clean -robed , godly, and faithful ones." (Muslims)

Ishaq:375 "Come here you son of a female circumciser. His mother was Umm Amm Anmar, a female circumciser in Mecca. Hamza smote and killed him."


Religion of peace? I don't think so....

 

[ShamMol]

Yes, all of them are following the prophets words, interpreting them differently or choosing to disregard them completely. Am I to take the bible literally? No, of course not. Of course some do, but this is the same in Islam. Some take the Quaran literally while others don't-the majority don't and choose to interpret it differently. Can you see that?

Do you want to dipute taht the fifth pillar of islam is peace?

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

Deuteronomy 7: 1-4

When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations—the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you- and when the LORD your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, for they will turn your sons away from following me to serve other gods, and the LORD's anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you.

Deuteronomy 20:10-18

When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

Joshua 6:21

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

Religion of peace? I don't think so...

 

[shuamort]

Aww, you forgot my favorite one:
Jeremiah:
16:3 For thus saith the LORD concerning the sons and concerning the daughters that are born in this place, and concerning their mothers that bare them, and concerning their fathers that begat them in this land;
16:4 They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth:and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.
16:5 For thus saith the LORD, Enter not into the house of mourning, neither go to lament nor bemoan them: for I have taken away my peace from this people, saith the LORD, even lovingkindness and mercies.

 

[lamaror]

So at last we come to Bush and the far right in American politics, and here is what we get: the rider of the pale horse war; death, lies, famine, disease, and greed. Bush and the far out fascist right wing are truly Biblical


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Revelation chapter 6, verses 1 to 8:
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

here is the real Bush.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth

 

[Joe ohhnoo]

So at last we come to Bush and the far right in American politics, and here is what we get: the rider of the pale horse war; death, lies, famine, disease, and greed. Bush and the far out fascist right wing are truly Biblical


<>
Revelation chapter 6, verses 1 to 8:
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

here is the real Bush.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth

If you are so brain dead who follows all lies and who only points finger and blame others without seeing the truth and doing something about it, then...I do not mind to be the 666 and kick your butt that is if bush does not do it. You are a blind man who can not see the condition in the world, hiding in your cave and nagging. We have to walk a bumpy road to peace and Bush is trying to be involve in it. Go to this site below click on beheading on the righ and see what some of your brotheres are doing to your other brothers... They are looking forward to do it to you. They only deserve a bomb on their head....

 

[Messerschmitt]

Bush and the far out fascist right wing are truly Biblical

Fascishism, Socialism, and Nazism are not "right wing" they are left wing. The idea that the Nazism and Fascism were right wing seems to boil down to the idea that racism (and nationalism) is a unique and defining trait of the right. But this is false; Mecha, the Hispanic-power group, is avowedly leftist, racist,and nationalist. The Black Panthers and other black supremacists were leftist. There are a number of examples of groups and people on the left who are racist. In any case, I don't accept that premise.

Without the racist=right wing idea to pin the Nazis, it becomes clear that the fascist movement is actually a faction of the left. Mussolini, the father of fascism, was a socialist. He split from the socialist to join a more extreme left-wing group which became the Fascist party. Hitler looked to Mussolini as a role model for what he wanted to create. The word Nazi actually stands for, get this, the National Socialist German Workers Party. That's two leftist red flags in one name. Their economic policy wasn't anything CATO would approve of. One of their policy initiatives was to create a fund that would provide cars to everyone who decided to contribute. (The name of the car? The People's Car, or, in German, Volkswagen. It was actually the VW Beetle. All those hippies were driving Hitler mobiles.) Basically, from where I'm sitting, fascism was a socialist sub-group that figured out how to tap into nationalism and racism. In the political climate of Europe (where the conservatives are just socialists who go to church) fascism had a broad appeal. Perhaps on the European left-right continuum, the placement of the Nazi's on the right would then be appropriate. But I'm not really seeing how they'd fit on the right in America's political continuum. They weren't really hard-core Christian (more of a neo-pagan Christianity-when-in-public bunch), they certainly weren't into the free market, and racism isn't necessarily a right wing trait.-JCoke and Messerschmitt.

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

If you are so brain dead who follows all lies and who only points finger and blame others without seeing the truth and doing something about it, then...I do not mind to be the 666 and kick your butt that is if bush does not do it. You are a blind man who can not see the condition in the world, hiding in your cave and nagging. We have to walk a bumpy road to peace and Bush is trying to be involve in it. Go to this site below click on beheading on the righ and see what some of your brotheres are doing to your other brothers... They are looking forward to do it to you. They only deserve a bomb on their head....

Are we trying to end terrorism or kill terrorists?

 

[tr1414]

The point that you head-chopper lovers miss is that Islam is NOt about peace. If you makes you feel better to talk about the Bible & say see theres bad stuff in there knock yourselfs out but don't waste your time with me. I can see, even if you want to be blind.

 

[Surenderer]

The point that you head-chopper lovers miss is that Islam is NOt about peace. If you makes you feel better to talk about the Bible & say see theres bad stuff in there knock yourselfs out but don't waste your time with me. I can see, even if you want to be blind.

Hey bro you do realize that only 13% of Muslims live in the Middle East right? that India has 150 million and a Muslim President...is he a "Head Chopper" too? Indonesia has the most Muslims in the world and they have had a Woman President...is she? Shirin Ebadi won the 2003 Nobel Prize...is she? are the 5 million muslims in America? curious because you sound as hateful as Osama


peace

 

[ShamMol]

Our point is that not everyone follows what is said in the bible, just like not all is followed what is said in the Quaran. Get it?

 

[cnredd]

Hey bro you do realize that only 13% of Muslims live in the Middle East right? that India has 150 million and a Muslim President...is he a "Head Chopper" too? Indonesia has the most Muslims in the world and they have had a Woman President...is she? Shirin Ebadi won the 2003 Nobel Prize...is she? are the 5 million muslims in America? curious because you sound as hateful as Osama


peace

Are these facts pointed out to the extremists? Are they just dismissed?

 

[Surenderer]

Are these facts pointed out to the extremists? Are they just dismissed?

Well extremists would see it as a disgrace I'm sure......but Muslims living in Democracies and voting women to power etc....is pointing out progress dont you think?




http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm

 

[tr1414]

Well extremists would see it as a disgrace I'm sure......but Muslims living in Democracies and voting women to power etc....is pointing out progress dont you think?




http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm

You mean like the home-grown head-choppers in London? As much as everyone says that this is not a war of east vs. west, it is. The sooner the denfenders of the head-choppers get it the better... Get that? You liberals are out to luch on this.... why/how can you be so quick to denfend this crap? After 9/11, I was on the subway going to work. (I live & work in NYC) on one point the train comes out of the tunnel & goes over a bridge. Everyone was looking at the gaping hole in the skyline where the WTC was. A Muslim guy was looking at it & smiling..... after I punched him in the face, he was not smiling anymore & everyone on the train car clapped for me. As much as you might want to belive that "peace in one of the pillers of Islam" I say BULLSHIT. I've seen too much from them. Your right, I do hate Muslims. They gave me over 3,000 reasons why.

 

[Kelzie]

You mean like the home-grown head-choppers in London? As much as everyone says that this is not a war of east vs. west, it is. The sooner the denfenders of the head-choppers get it the better... Get that? You liberals are out to luch on this.... why/how can you be so quick to denfend this crap? After 9/11, I was on the subway going to work. (I live & work in NYC) on one point the train comes out of the tunnel & goes over a bridge. Everyone was looking at the gaping hole in the skyline where the WTC was. A Muslim guy was looking at it & smiling..... after I punched him in the face, he was not smiling anymore & everyone on the train car clapped for me. As much as you might want to belive that "peace in one of the pillers of Islam" I say BULLSHIT. I've seen too much from them. Your right, I do hate Muslims. They gave me over 3,000 reasons why.

And given the extreme violence with which you react to situations, I don't find it at all odd that you hold this stereotypical view. You punched a complete stranger in the face because he was smiling? How do you know what he was smiling at? Maybe he remembering a joke he had heard. People like you are why I lock my doors at night, not the Muslim family down the street.

 

[lamaror]

Maybe you should hate Bush instead of Moslems. If had not invaded a sovereign country for no known reason, there would be on the dead of 9/11.

the planes were flown by Saudi Arabians not people from Iraq.

Christians, hindus, and Jews, Moslems belong to religions that frequently use violence & death as weapons in the name of God.

Yet I am a satisfied being a christian. :2razz:

 

[Messerschmitt]

Maybe you should hate Bush instead of Moslems. If had not invaded a sovereign country for no known reason, there would be on the dead of 9/11. the planes were flown by Saudi Arabians not people from Iraq.

YOU ARE CONTERDICTING YOURSELF! You're right! The planes flown on 9/11 weren't Iraqis. THE WAR IS NOT DIRECTED ON IRAQIS! Places like Afganastan and Iraq are safe havens for terrorists (religious extreemists). The war isn't about fighting Iraqis its about fighting the terrorism and insurgance from Sadiu Arabia, Syria, and Jordan. There are some Iraqis who are terrorists and they are the ones who are still loyal to Saddam, they are the Ba'athists Party. If you ask anyone who has actualy lived in Iraq or lives there now, they can tell you that it is great without Saddam. Without fear of being tortured and killed and thrown into a mass graves. Polls and anylists show that the people of Iraq do not support terrorism. The insurgence is our target in Iraq NOT THE IRAQ PEOPLE! The people of Iraq are thanking their luckly stars for the Colloation soldigers who are kicking these low life extreemists punks out of their home land. Yes we did go into Iraq to get rid of WMDs and their were none. Even Kerry was for getting rid of the WMds in the 1990s, but after he found out that there were none then he changed his mind and said that there were none. Thats why he lost in the 04 elections, because he changed his position after he found out what there really were no WMDs and he was labled as a "flip-floper." We still had another goal for Iraq and that was to save the people of Iraq from their horriable leader, and we are making progress but it is taking some time. If civilians are killed it is not intentional. In previous wars civilians were killed much more than there are now, in fact civilians were targets. Now any civilian casulity is considered collateral damage and was not intended.

Christians, hindus, and Jews, Moslems belong to religions that frequently use violence & death as weapons in the name of God.

So, just because some religious extremists believe it is ok to kill infidels doesn't mean that it is right for every religion to kill with no justification.

 

[nkgupta80]

YOU ARE CONTERDICTING YOURSELF! You're right! The planes flown on 9/11 weren't Iraqis. THE WAR IS NOT DIRECTED ON IRAQIS! Places like Afganastan and Iraq are safe havens for terrorists (religious extreemists). The war isn't about fighting Iraqis its about fighting the terrorism and insurgance from Sadiu Arabia, Syria, and Jordan. There are some Iraqis who are terrorists and they are the ones who are still loyal to Saddam, they are the Ba'athists Party. If you ask anyone who has actualy lived in Iraq or lives there now, they can tell you that it is great without Saddam. Without fear of being tortured and killed and thrown into a mass graves. Polls and anylists show that the people of Iraq do not support terrorism. The insurgence is our target in Iraq NOT THE IRAQ PEOPLE! The people of Iraq are thanking their luckly stars for the Colloation soldigers who are kicking these low life extreemists punks out of their home land. Yes we did go into Iraq to get rid of WMDs and their were none. Even Kerry was for getting rid of the WMds in the 1990s, but after he found out that there were none then he changed his mind and said that there were none. Thats why he lost in the 04 elections, because he changed his position after he found out what there really were no WMDs and he was labled as a "flip-floper." We still had another goal for Iraq and that was to save the people of Iraq from their horriable leader, and we are making progress but it is taking some time. If civilians are killed it is not intentional. In previous wars civilians were killed much more than there are now, in fact civilians were targets. Now any civilian casulity is considered collateral damage and was not intended.

you can believe that, but the Iraqi war is still not justified. First of all, in relative terms, Iraq was NOT a major safe haven for terror. US officials themselves admit that a majority of the problems in Iraq rite now are promoted by insurgents that are coming from out of Iraq. Secondly, the promoters of Sadaam were not terrorists before we invaded. They are fighting because of political reasons not muslim extremist reasons.


Thirdly, for us the collateral damage may not be intended, but for the civilians who lose their loved ones, do you think they feel the same way? Do you think they mourn, then shrug saying oh well... collateral damage. The thoughts going in there head are, I wish this war never happened. Atleast under saddam my child or husband or mother would still be alive. This fuels US hatred and causes more insurgency. More soldiers face violence, and then more civilians are accidently killed. The vicious cycle goes on. However little the collateral damage may be, the effects of it are disastrous.


The fact still remains that out of all the countries that had many more extremists than Iraq, including Syria, Jordan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran, we chose Iraq. We know that the WMD pretense was false. And sure taking sadaam out of power is a good thing. But the amount it has done for us in the war against terror is nothing...

 

[lamaror]

Name me a Religion of Peace. other than maybe Budhist off shoots the Quakers, and anabaptists.
Christ's teachings are interpreted by human beings to mean what ever they want them to mean.


The war in Irag is not justified at all. Irag was in fact subject to Bombing by El Quada because it was ruled by the Secular Ba-athist party. Saddam was the enemy of Bin Ladin. Bush is the Family Friend of Bin Ladin's family.

You are subject to some huge thinking disorders. Irag was not training Terrorists, that was the Taliban in Afghanistan. The decision to invade Iraq was made even before 9/11. Don't you read or gather information before you write. Even Bush admitted on television, that Not One Shred of the expected the expected evidence to justify War had been found. Remember Bush complained about faulty intelligence gather in and bad sources. His rationalization that Sadam was gonna produce weapons of mass destruction again in twenty years,,, is pure BushShit. Sadam had complied with UN mandate and it's missles and chemical weapons had bend blown up by UN inspectors and so Bush resorted to and contrived evidence to go to war. It was only after the United States kept interfering with the UN mandated inspector that Sadam told them to leave Irag

Even Bush and Cheney would not have put American War ships in a little area like the Persian Gulf, if Iraq had had weapons of Mass Destructions and the missiles to deliver the WMD. Not even Bush would sacrifice the US Navy. Bush made the decisions for War only after he was assured that Iraq could only bleed blood and Bleed oil. Bush is the President of the United states not Alexander the Great, Napoleon Bonaparte, or Ghengis Khan. Bush will not be allowed to Conquer the world for the sake of Corporatism.

Our wonderful patriotic American Troops have suffered terrible casualties because of Bush's decision to Invade a soveriegn Nation for no reason. Bush is infact a war criminal according to Geneva Accords. Bush is lying even about the number of Casualties our troops have suffered. Fox Propaganda says about 45000 with over 1600 dead. Can one believe Fox? Hell No. Fox is Passing on Rupert Murdock's WTO corporate line. I have heard some figures that puts Ameican dead in Irag at over 6000. The Bushshit Government works hard to suppress any truth that will make them unpopular with uninformed right wing Americans.

One must alway remember that using the word --insurgent -- is meant to put a particular emphasis on the news. Maybe another term that could be used is the term --- Freedom Fighter. Remember we, our poor misused military invaded Iraq.

Most of the Insurgents in Iraq are Iraqi Citizens. Sure there has been people from Jordan, Eqypt, Lebenon, and Saudi Arabia etc.,,,, that have that have come the defense of Iraq. Remember during world war 2, before the US got involved officially that there were plenty of American and south American volunteers fighting against Hitler in Britain.

Our troops are just following orders, yet there some refusing to go back to die for nothing except Corporate Greed. God Bless them and remember God hates the Right Wing Anti American and Anti poor Extremists in this country because they lie so darn much.

God was speaking to Bush the White rider of Revelations when he wrote in the old testament "thou shall not lie." :censored

Revelations Chapter 6 describe Bush.
7. And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth :duel :duel

:2razz:

 

[tr1414]

And given the extreme violence with which you react to situations, I don't find it at all odd that you hold this stereotypical view. You punched a complete stranger in the face because he was smiling? How do you know what he was smiling at? Maybe he remembering a joke he had heard. People like you are why I lock my doors at night, not the Muslim family down the street.

Don't be a jackass.... the Muslim scumbag was smiling at the hole in the skyline that was the WTC. This was only a few days after it happend. Everyone on that train was quit looking at the skyline, but Mr. "religion of peace" was looking at it smiling..... it's people like YOU that are ****ing up this country. I love my country, fought for my country & after 9/11 tried to reenlist but of cause I'm too old now. You liberal's kill me. Anyone want to make a liberal mad? Defend America.

 

[Gandhi>Bush]

I don't believe for a minute that BS story about you punching someone on 9/11. That early in the day, with the towers still up... Did you even know what had happened? Did you even know it was an attack by Islamic terrorists? Do you think for a second punching the man in the face made him feel the least bit bad about what had happened? That story sounds completely fabricated, but you know you're just that kind of red-blooded American that is such a hero and punches complete strangers on subways and wins the applause of the other patrons of the New York subway system. I don't believe any of it.

 

[Nemo]

It seems a perverse aspect of human nature that man seems incapable of tolerating others’ religious beliefs. Jews, Christians, Muslims - exist in mutual exclusive hatred of one another. It seems incongruous that these peoples, embracing three great religions - all sharing the same origins and cultural heritage, the same monotheistic basis of belief, and even having many of the same prophets - should be so totally at odds. Is not the one true God by any other name the same? Is not the God of Abraham of the Old Testament the same God the Father of Christ’s Gospels, and the one God, save Allah, bespoke to the prophet Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel in the Koran? Of all of God’s peoples, can any one of them claim an exclusive right to Him? It is a sad commentary on the history of civilization that the world is too small a place for Jews, Christians and Muslims to live together in peace.

 

[Surenderer]

It seems a perverse aspect of human nature that man seems incapable of tolerating others’ religious beliefs. Jews, Christians, Muslims - exist in mutual exclusive hatred of one another. It seems incongruous that these peoples, embracing three great religions - all sharing the same origins and cultural heritage, the same monotheistic basis of belief, and even having many of the same prophets - should be so totally at odds. Is not the one true God by any other name the same? Is not the God of Abraham of the Old Testament the same God the Father of Christ’s Gospels, and the one God, save Allah, bespoke to the prophet Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel in the Koran? Of all of God’s peoples, can any one of them claim an exclusive right to Him? It is a sad commentary on the history of civilization that the world is too small a place for Jews, Christians and Muslims to live together in peace.

Nice

 

[tr1414]

I don't believe for a minute that BS story about you punching someone on 9/11. That early in the day, with the towers still up... Did you even know what had happened? Did you even know it was an attack by Islamic terrorists? Do you think for a second punching the man in the face made him feel the least bit bad about what had happened? That story sounds completely fabricated, but you know you're just that kind of red-blooded American that is such a hero and punches complete strangers on subways and wins the applause of the other patrons of the New York subway system. I don't believe any of it.

First of all it was a FEW DAYS AFTER THE ATTACKS... if you could read, you'd know that. As for what you belive, I don't give a **** what you belive or not. Go hug a Muslim.... it will make you feel better about yourself.

 

[ShamMol]

^You are a horrible person. I have five best friends, the clique (if you ever watched wrestling, you get that). One is a jew, one is a muslim, one is christian and me and the other two are diest/agnostic. Shannon is a very devout Muslim, and your portrayl of all these people as evil hurts man. Do you get it?