Mayor to School Board: Resign or Face Charges of Child Pornography

[Luce]

17 is still a minor.

Not in Ohio, where this occurred.

 

[JasperL]

And having a mayor dumb enough to think it could be prosecuted as such.

I just watched the video. Parents loved it and applauded him, complete with screams of approval. That's why these guys do it - some of our country loves this kind of authoritarianism. He likely knows he's full of crap but is throwing red meat to the rubes, and they love it.

I'll just add that the book is clearly something that would be protected by the 1A. Under no possible scenario can the reading about a possible writing assignment be considered illegal child porn. So the criminal 'charge' in this case, the government-imposed penalty, would be for doing something, distributing a book, that's clearly a protected activity. Seems the GOP hack mayor doesn't care about that if he can threaten the jobs of the school board members.

FWIW, here's 100 of the 642. No one need bother reading them - they are quite ordinary and boring ideas.

http://ryanjurewiczedu390.pbworks.com/f/WritingPrompts.pdf

 

[Luce]

I just watched the video. Parents loved it and applauded him, complete with screams of approval. That's why these guys do it - some of our country loves this kind of authoritarianism. He likely knows he's full of crap but is throwing red meat to the rubes, and they love it.

I wonder how much he'll like the lawsuits?

 

[Fishking]

Not in Ohio, where this occurred.

Even in Ohio. It may be over the age of consent, but it's still a minor. You're not a legal adult until 18. Further, even in states were the age of consent is 16 you're still sick if you're doing certain things with them.

 

[Luce]

Even in Ohio. It may be over the age of consent, but it's still a minor. You're not a legal adult until 18. Further, even in states were the age of consent is 16 you're still sick if you're doing certain things with them.

Sure.

But nothing involved in this story meets the criteria of child porn.

 

[Lisa]

Better article...

Hudson mayor widens political divide by bullying school board to resign or face charges

Hudson Mayor Craig Shubert makes threats that are an abuse of power and another example of divisive politics diminishing public institutions.

www.beaconjournal.com

Thanks for the source of the ABJ. Even they call him out on his tactics.

Shubert's threats are a gross abuse of his mayoral power and another example of divisive politics diminishing public institutions, including his own office.

At Monday’s Hudson Board of Education meeting, residents expressed their anger that “raw filth,” as one man said, slipped by the gatekeepers and into the classroom. “642 Things to Write About” is provided to high school juniors and seniors in a College Credit Plus writing class as supplemental reading.

So child pornography can be overlooked if they resign? That sounds like aiding and abetting criminals.

John Brown lived in Hudson. The family house is still there and it is a museum.

Hudson was founded in 1799 by New England pioneers who brought with them a hatred of the institution of slavery. One influential settler, Owen Brown, was an active Abolitionist and Underground Railroad “Stationmaster”, as well as father to controversial abolitionist John Brown, who lived here for twenty years.

Slavery, John Brown and Hudson Ohio - Cleveland 101

Hudson is a city in Summit County, Ohio, one county south of Cleveland (Cuyahoga County). It is now an affluent suburb of Akron. Hudson was founded in 1799 by New England pioneers who brought with them a hatred of the … Continue reading →

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[Lloyd Christmas]

Better article...

Hudson mayor widens political divide by bullying school board to resign or face charges

Hudson Mayor Craig Shubert makes threats that are an abuse of power and another example of divisive politics diminishing public institutions.

www.beaconjournal.com

While online book sellers say “642 Things” helps spur would-be writers through such exercises as “crafting your own obituary and penning an ode to an onion,” furious speakers at the meeting detailed adult-oriented suggestions. Drink a beer and write about the taste is one exercise; another is to “describe your favorite part of a man’s body using only verbs,” according to a resident who read aloud some of the 642 suggestions.

That's what he's trying to claim is child porn? These people are the Christian version of the Taliban. That is why many of their kids are so ill prepared for life, they block reality from them. That and they only want to teach them lies instead of reality.

Some Hudson residents who spoke at the board meeting indicated they were already upset with diversity efforts in curriculum and strict COVID-19 policies. This book, despite its being supplemental reading for some college-bound students, is another reason these residents say they can’t “trust” the authorities.

Must indoctrinate kids with white supremacy or else you are indoctrinating them. That's the mindset of some of these people

 

[Fishking]

Where did I say it’s okay to hook up with a minor? But since you saw fit to bring up something totally outside of what was being discussed the age of consent in Ohio is 16. It goes as low as 13 dependent on the age of the other party.

When you became an apologist for someone handing out material that has writing a sexual encounter as part of it, passing it off as it being OK because they are 17 and not kids. You just further solidified my premise with what you wrote above, so I really hit the mark there.

As previously stated it looks like someone didn’t thoroughly review the book. Regrettable but it ain’t child porn. People need to grow up.

I never claimed it was child porn. It's just sick and perverted on the part of the educators, no matter what level of education it is. Hell, it could be doctorate level classes and giving an assignment of writing about a sexual encounter would be sick and gross. If people want to do that in their own time, or read romance novels, or even become a famous smutty romance novel author, more power to them. I have absolutely no issue with that. Having that type of writing in an academic setting as a possible assignment is ****ing weird and gross.

 

[Fishking]

Sure.

But nothing involved in this story meets the criteria of child porn.

Never said it did. I only said it's still gross and should result in people being fired. It could fall under a different type of sex crime though.

 

[JasperL]

Never said it did. I only said it's still gross and should result in people being fired. It could fall under a different type of sex crime though.

LOL, that's hilarious. What crime would that be?

 

[JasperL]

When you became an apologist for someone handing out material that has writing a sexual encounter as part of it, passing it off as it being OK because they are 17 and not kids. You just further solidified my premise with what you wrote above, so I really hit the mark there.

I never claimed it was child porn. It's just sick and perverted on the part of the educators, no matter what level of education it is. Hell, it could be doctorate level classes and giving an assignment of writing about a sexual encounter would be sick and gross. If people want to do that in their own time, or read romance novels, or even become a famous smutty romance novel author, more power to them. I have absolutely no issue with that. Having that type of writing in an academic setting as a possible assignment is ****ing weird and gross.

No one gave out an assignment to write about a sexual encounter...... I know you're enjoying being outraged about this thing...that didn't happen, but it never happened.

 

[Gaius46]

When you became an apologist for someone handing out material that has writing a sexual encounter as part of it, passing it off as it being OK because they are 17 and not kids. You just further solidified my premise with what you wrote above, so I really hit the mark there.

I never claimed it was child porn. It's just sick and perverted on the part of the educators, no matter what level of education it is. Hell, it could be doctorate level classes and giving an assignment of writing about a sexual encounter would be sick and gross. If people want to do that in their own time, or read romance novels, or even become a famous smutty romance novel author, more power to them. I have absolutely no issue with that. Having that type of writing in an academic setting as a possible assignment is ****ing weird and gross.

The OP claim is that it is child porn. It is not. I am not being apologist I said it was idiotic. It just isn’t child porn. Do try to keep to the topic an actually read and understand what you are responding to.

 

[Fishking]

The OP claim is that it is child porn. It is not. I am not being apologist I said it was idiotic. It just isn’t child porn. Do try to keep to the topic an actually read and understand what you are responding to.

It doesn't have to be child porn for it to be depraved and possibly fall under some other sex crime. Again, you being an apologist for such actions has been noted.

 

[Gaius46]

It doesn't have to be child porn for it to be depraved and possibly fall under some other sex crime. Again, you being an apologist for such actions has been noted.

Since you only seem to have a tenuous grasp of simple English I don’t see any point in banging my head against the wall any more tying to get you understand something a 3rd grader could. Do try to not not run around with a pair of scissors since you might hurt yourself.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I exchanged some pretty racy notes with girlfriends in high school and some that my friends wrote were even spicier. I guess we should have all been locked up.

I remember getting ONE note from a female classmate in junior high, not exactly Miss Universe, but looking back, kind of attractive in her own way, and that note definitely would have lit a bomb under any school board if read aloud. I was too young, clumsy and dense to know how to handle myself but I'll just say that I kept that note for a few years and looked at it whenever I felt I needed a little boost to the old ego.
Holy handgrenades, it was downright filthy...I felt too embarrassed to respond to her.
I probably should have acted on it, huh...it definitely would have changed my sexual timeline drastically!

 

[Deuce]

Even in Ohio. It may be over the age of consent, but it's still a minor. You're not a legal adult until 18. Further, even in states were the age of consent is 16 you're still sick if you're doing certain things with them.

Except nobody is doing that here.

It doesn't have to be child porn for it to be depraved and possibly fall under some other sex crime. Again, you being an apologist for such actions has been noted.

There does actually have to be child porn for someone to be charged with distribution of child porn, though.

So, you've backpedaled to "depraved."

You think for an educator to miss one entry in over 600 that says "write about a sexual experience" is "depraved?"

 

[Fishking]

There does actually have to be child porn for someone to be charged with distribution of child porn, though.

So, you've backpedaled to "depraved."

I haven't backpedaled anything. You should try reading what I wrote and not reading imaginary things. I never said it was child porn.

 

[HK.227]

Thoughts?

Just one.
Is it legal in Ohio for members of the executive branch to tell the judicial branch to prosecute people, unless the people to be prosected do what he says?

 

[Hampton86]

It doesn't have to be child porn for it to be depraved and possibly fall under some other sex crime. Again, you being an apologist for such actions has been noted.

It doesn't fall under any other law, Ironside

Kind of the whole point you're clearly missing

 

[HangLow]

And yet they ignore actual child abusers.
Matt Gaetz, Roy Moore etc get a pass for some reason.

 

[ecofarm]

How many offenders has the mayor let go because they quit their jobs? How long has that been going on.

Do the mayor's constituents agree that child predators should be offered a get out of jail free card for quitting their jobs.

Is that justice system something the mayor made up in his head? If so, why. Why has he decided this crime can be excused if one quits their job.

Is the mayor prepared to offer any other criminals, beside child predators, a free pass if they quit their jobs.

 

[guillermojf]

Let this be a lesson for anyone: if you can'tdiscern the age of the porn actors, then don't watch the porn.

I'm happy that I quit watching porn.