Mayor to School Board: Resign or Face Charges of Child Pornography

[CaughtInThe]

There is something seriously wrong with a certain demographic in the U.S. when EVERYTHING offends them.
I have done threads on nude beaches, THEY were offended, other threads I have read dealt with acceptable attire in public, and THEY were SO offended.

Are we still living in the 1950s? I suspect there is a serious social issue with some of those who get SO easily offended when they hear the word "sex", see a body part exposed, or a school curriculum encourages students to THINK and explore their thoughts.

this may be anecdotal but in my personal experience the people that are the most offended by what God gave us (sex) are the people with some kind of sexual/relationship issues or those that were trained that sex is bad in church. and that even includes those where the church wasn't training them that sex was bad but that's what they convinced themselves they were being trained over time.

how many of us know people who are divorced or older and scream about these topics? how many of us know siblings that all went to the same church and one comes out sexually repressed and the others come out normal?

 

[DarkWizard12]

Except it wasn‘t child pornography. The book contained written prompts for use in getting students to write. Some of the 642 prompts were sexual in nature but none had anything to do with children. The students are prepping for college which means they’re likely around 17 years old, hardly children.

The mayor is a moron. The school board members who added the book to the curriculum either didn’t do a thorough job or are idiots who love courting controversy.

uhhhhhh.... wow. okay.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

this may be anecdotal but in my personal experience the people that are the most offended by what God gave us (sex) are the people with some kind of sexual/relationship issues or those that were trained that sex is bad in church. and that even includes those where the church wasn't training them that sex was bad but that's what they convinced themselves they were being trained over time.

how many of us know people who are divorced or older and scream about these topics? how many of us know siblings that all went to the same church and one comes out sexually repressed and the others come out normal?

You are too generous, my experience has been, those who are the most offended by what they consider "morally" acceptable are a bunch of sanctimonious backward people who still believe kids should shut up and mind their manners and women belong in the kitchen.

 

[reflechissez]

Where'd the OP go?

 

[Fishking]

Except it wasn‘t child pornography. The book contained written prompts for use in getting students to write. Some of the 642 prompts were sexual in nature but none had anything to do with children. The students are prepping for college which means they’re likely around 17 years old, hardly children.

The mayor is a moron. The school board members who added the book to the curriculum either didn’t do a thorough job or are idiots who love courting controversy.

17 is still a minor. What I'm reading here is that you think it's OK to hook up with a 17 year old because they aren't kids anymore? Add in there that there is no reason for colleges to push for the writing of sexual content. There's literally no educational value there, just a bunch of ****ing perverts. Maybe colleges should get to actually teaching these kids real things instead of their bullshit. Hmmmm....

 

[Fishking]

I exchanged some pretty racy notes with girlfriends in high school and some that my friends wrote were even spicier. I guess we should have all been locked up.

If your teacher gave you an assignment to write those notes, the teacher should be fired and possibly charged. That's the difference between your example and what the school did.

 

[Fishking]

This should be a clear-cut issue addressed as inappropriate for a school to have assigned such material to kids, but the perverted left (actually for real in this case) rush to defend such nonsense. It's not child porn but it most definitely is wrong. WTF...ya'll would get off reading sex fantasies written by kids, eh?

 

[Allan]

If your teacher gave you an assignment to write those notes, the teacher should be fired and possibly charged. That's the difference between your example and what the school did.

Read the details. The assignment did not include the controversial writing topics.

 

[Fishking]

Read the details. The assignment did not include the controversial writing topics.

Among the assignments was having them write about a sexual encounter. That's not just controversial, it's ****ing perverted to have that given to kids, or really anyone in an educational environment. How about education get back to education and stop being ****ing sickos?

 

[JasperL]

This should be a clear-cut issue addressed as inappropriate for a school to have assigned such material to kids, but the perverted left (actually for real in this case) rush to defend such nonsense. It's not child porn but it most definitely is wrong. WTF...ya'll would get off reading sex fantasies written by kids, eh?

I haven't actually read the book of examples, so have no idea if it's inappropriate for a school to have assigned it. What I assume is a book of writing ideas that has a handful of sexually explicit ideas might be inappropriate, but not something I can get worked up about. HS kids aged 17 have seen sexually explicit at the movies, on TV, on their phones and are hardly innocent snowflakes when it comes to that. I'm sure selling this book to kids aged 17 is legal.

Further, it's one thing to assign a book that has over 600 possible writing projects, versus actually, you know, assigning one of those that is sexually explicit for a writing assignment. No one at the school assigned anything inappropriate to any HS student, and no student we know of turned one in.

And in fact the OP is about the idiot mayor demanding the entire school board resign or be charged with child porn, which is truly Gold-Star level insane, idiocy, so stupid you have to worry about the guy's mental health, or know he's just a reckless blowhard feeding bullcrap to the base.

 

[JasperL]

Among the assignments was having them write about a sexual encounter. That's not just controversial, it's ****ing perverted to have that given to kids, or really anyone in an educational environment. How about education get back to education and stop being ****ing sickos?

Which teachers assigned that topic to their students???!!! It's an OUTRAGE!!!!

Well, it might be, but that didn't happen. See, that's where the whole thing goes off the rails. And have you never read a novel? Even mysteries routinely have depictions of a 'sexual encounter' in between solving murders and the like. They aren't often explicit, but then nothing about writing about a sexual encounter requires that, does it? If the school assigns one of those mass market paperbacks, are they trafficking in child porn??!!! SICKOS!!! A BOOK THAT EXPLICITLY SUGGESTS ADULTS HAVING SEX!!! The poor innocent HS seniors!!! Should we label all those books with NC17 or something and move them to a back room at the library and book stores?

 

[Fishking]

Which teachers assigned that topic to their students???!!! It's an OUTRAGE!!!!

Well, it might be, but that didn't happen. See, that's where the whole thing goes off the rails. And have you never read a novel? Even mysteries routinely have depictions of a 'sexual encounter' in between solving murders and the like. They aren't often explicit, but then nothing about writing about a sexual encounter requires that, does it? If the school assigns one of those mass market paperbacks, are they trafficking in child porn??!!! SICKOS!!! A BOOK THAT EXPLICITLY SUGGESTS ADULTS HAVING SEX!!! The poor innocent HS seniors!!! Should we label all those books with NC17 or something and move them to a back room at the library and book stores?

You can't tell the difference between a reading assignment and telling kids to write about a sexual encounter? Pretty much says I don't need to waste my time responding to you and my statement stands as valid.

 

[JasperL]

You can't tell the difference between a reading assignment and telling kids to write about a sexual encounter? Pretty much says I don't need to waste my time responding to you and my statement stands as valid.

No one told kids to write about a sexual encounter. The book is titled, "642 things to write about." So it has 642 different possible writing assignments.

They theoretically could have assigned one of the few explicit "things" to students, but they did not do that. That is the point. The only possible exposure these kids could have gotten to anything sexually explicit is reading about them as one of 642 possible things they might write about, but that were not actually assigned.

 

[Luce]

Better article...

Hudson mayor widens political divide by bullying school board to resign or face charges

Hudson Mayor Craig Shubert makes threats that are an abuse of power and another example of divisive politics diminishing public institutions.

www.beaconjournal.com

From that link:

“It has come to my attention your educators are distributing essentially what is child pornography in the classroom,” Shubert said.

Actually, no. Superintendent Phil Herman emphasized in a statement that “at no time were any of these inappropriate writing prompts assigned as part of the class."

Hudson police have turned child porn allegations over to the Summit County Prosecutor's Office. In a statement, Summit County Prosecutor Sherri Bevan Walsh said “a prompt about a fictional writing is not child pornography.”

The prosecutor’s office on Friday warned that threats against board members, faculty and administrators in Hudson “must stop.”

Well, that's that.

 

[Fishking]

No one told kids to write about a sexual encounter. The book is titled, "642 things to write about." So it has 642 different possible writing assignments.

They theoretically could have assigned one of the few explicit "things" to students, but they did not do that. That is the point. The only possible exposure these kids could have gotten to anything sexually explicit is reading about them as one of 642 possible things they might write about, but that were not actually assigned.

"Hey kids...here's a book with 642 pages of random short stories and other things. Page 640 has a picture of a dude railing this girl but you don't have to read it. This is A-OK to give out." - JasperL probably.

 

[mike2810]

If all the board members of the school board resigns how many parents or people who support the resignation will step up and run for the board?

 

[JasperL]

"Hey kids...here's a book with 642 pages of random short stories and other things. Page 640 has a picture of a dude railing this girl but you don't have to read it. This is A-OK to give out." - JasperL probably.

They're not short stories. The book was 642 writing ideas. This isn't a book of porn. The kids can get better than that non-existent picture you made up anyway, including full length porn movies, on their mobile phones at about 1,000 different websites. Can you believe parents allow their kids to have these smart phones that can view porn???!!!! OUTRAGE!!!!

Back to the topic - there is nothing obscene about, say, reading these words - "Write a sex scene you wouldn't show your mom." (an actual topic). The writing assignment, what is produced by a given writer, might or might not be obscene, and is obviously inappropriate to assign to a HS class, but no one did that.

And, anyway, the idea that handing out this book with writing ideas, some of them inappropriate for a HS writing class, is trafficking in child porn is just beyond stupid. If you want to be outraged, go for it.

 

[Fishking]

They're not short stories. The book was 642 writing ideas. This isn't a book of porn. The kids can get better than that non-existent picture you made up anyway, including full length porn movies, on their mobile phones at about 1,000 different websites. Can you believe parents allow their kids to have these smart phones that can view porn???!!!! OUTRAGE!!!!

Again, that you can't tell the difference between a kid looking up something for themselves and a school giving it out shows that I've wasted my time too much with you, and should've just stopped with my 1st response. That will be remedied.

 

[SCrider]

Again, that you can't tell the difference between a kid looking up something for themselves and a school giving it out shows that I've wasted my time too much with you, and should've just stopped with my 1st response. That will be remedied.

You are arguing about something that never happened. did you draw the short straw and have to take on this one for the team?

 

[Deuce]

Man, the headline is just wildly misleading.

What the guy actually did was give out a document of some kind that was "642 writing prompts." Clearly he didn't read them all, some were "inappropriate." The most inappropriate one cited in the article was "write about a sexual encounter." That's it? One ****ing prompt out of more than 600 was vaguely inappropriate for high school students?

So, his real crime was not thoroughly vetting writing prompts. Child porn? Come the **** on.

 

[reflechissez]

Man, the headline is just wildly misleading.

What the guy actually did was give out a document of some kind that was "642 writing prompts." Clearly he didn't read them all, some were "inappropriate." The most inappropriate one cited in the article was "write about a sexual encounter." That's it? One ****ing prompt out of 600 was vaguely inappropriate for teenagers?

So, his real crime was not thoroughly vetting writing prompts. Child porn? Come the **** on.

The OP apparently only read the title before he rushed to post this breaking news. He should have done a little more research.

 

[Deuce]

"Hey kids...here's a book with 642 pages of random short stories and other things. Page 640 has a picture of a dude railing this girl but you don't have to read it. This is A-OK to give out." - JasperL probably.

They were writing prompts. There was no porn. There were no pictures. The only way this results in child porn existing at all is if a student makes the monumentally stupid decision to write about children having sex and for some ungodly reason submit that as an assignment to the teacher.

The article cites one that is inappropriate. ONE.

 

[Gaius46]

17 is still a minor. What I'm reading here is that you think it's OK to hook up with a 17 year old because they aren't kids anymore? Add in there that there is no reason for colleges to push for the writing of sexual content. There's literally no educational value there, just a bunch of ****ing perverts. Maybe colleges should get to actually teaching these kids real things instead of their bullshit. Hmmmm....

Where did I say it’s okay to hook up with a minor? But since you saw fit to bring up something totally outside of what was being discussed the age of consent in Ohio is 16. It goes as low as 13 dependent on the age of the other party.

Getting back to the actual discussion at hand - 17 year olds aren’t kids or children in sense used with child porn which usually means young teens and younger. Nor are modern 17 year olds ignorant about sex - the average kid today loses their virginity at 17. So it’s hard to see the actual harm done by the book especially given none of the sexual prompts we’re actually part of the assignment.

As previously stated it looks like someone didn’t thoroughly review the book. Regrettable but it ain’t child porn. People need to grow up.

 

[Cardinal]

This is a perfect example of a topic in which most of us could easily find the common ground that a couple of the prompts were inappropriate for high school students. But of course that kind of eminently reasonable common ground has to be blown up when somebody dials the stupid to 11 by claiming an inappropriate writing prompt constitutes "child pornography."

 

[Luce]

This is a perfect example of a topic in which most of us could easily find the common ground that a couple of the prompts were inappropriate for high school students. But as is so often the case, that kind of reasonable middle ground must necessarily be blown up when somebody dials the stupid to 11 by claiming an inappropriate writing prompt constitutes "child pornography."

And having a mayor dumb enough to think it could be prosecuted as such.