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Mask Mandates Don't Work

HumblePi said:
Oh really, tell that to all the people in my state of Connecticut that saw members of their families and friends die from Covid in March and April. Tell that to all the people in my state that wear a mask, all the time when out in public. Tell that to us --- that know better because our infection rates went from 17% to -0.05%. Don't you DARE to tell me that masks do not work, it's showing profound ignorance to do so. And yes, IT WAS ENFORCED!
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It doesn't matter about Connecticut. Mask mandates don't work. Out of the entire country, maybe mask mandates work about 10% of the time. Cases are currently rising pretty much everywhere, including the areas with mask mandates. You guys seem to forget that we don't live in fantasyland. Yes, mask mandates would work better if there was 100% compliance but not even liberal California is having their mask mandate work. It's nothing but a leftist fantasy. For the most part, mask mandates DON'T work. Just because they would work with 100% compliance doesn't mean that they work because that is fantasy land, not the real world.
 
Moderate Right said:
It doesn't matter about Connecticut. Mask mandates don't work. Out of the entire country, maybe mask mandates work about 10% of the time. Cases are currently rising pretty much everywhere, including the areas with mask mandates. You guys seem to forget that we don't live in fantasyland. Yes, mask mandates would work better if there was 100% compliance but not even liberal California is having their mask mandate work. It's nothing but a leftist fantasy.
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How do you know it would not be ten times worse without a mask mandate?
 
Moderate Right said:
California instituted a mask mandate on June 18, two months ago. On that date they had 4084 new cases for June 18th. Two months after the mask mandate yesterday, August 18th, California had 4636 new cases for the day. On June 18th, the first day of the mask mandate, California had 82 new deaths and two months after the mask mandate, on August 18th, they had 100 new deaths for the day. California | The COVID Tracking Project

And, whether you are in a red state or a blue state, people aren't going to wear their masks whether there is a mask mandate or not and most of these people are the younger invincible liberals aged 20-29 who aren't about to stop going to beaches and bars.
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The Covid19 mask mandate cut the new infections by 30% in Ohio.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news...ses-down-31-in-first-month-since-mask-mandate

What is your problem with wearing a mask when interacting with people? The mask mandate is there for the general good, just like DUI laws and food safety laws.
 
cabse5 said:
The infection rate and/or the mortality or hospitalization rate of Covid are two very distinct things.
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Indeed, but I never confused the two in my post. You’ve misread what I said to you and how I said it.

In fact, I never mentioned hospitalization rates to you in my last post to you before this post.


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Moderate Right said:
California instituted a mask mandate on June 18, two months ago. On that date they had 4084 new cases for June 18th. Two months after the mask mandate yesterday, August 18th, California had 4636 new cases for the day. On June 18th, the first day of the mask mandate, California had 82 new deaths and two months after the mask mandate, on August 18th, they had 100 new deaths for the day. California | The COVID Tracking Project

And, whether you are in a red state or a blue state, people aren't going to wear their masks whether there is a mask mandate or not and most of these people are the younger invincible liberals aged 20-29 who aren't about to stop going to beaches and bars.
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It's working well in my county. Ever since they mandated masks, case numbers have gone down.
 
jnug said:
California has some serious hot beds of whack job Republicanism left in it, apparently one of the astounding number of things Trumpets don't know.
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This map breaks it down by region. The large cities are going to be hotbeds of infection just because there are many people living in close proximity to each other and the virus transmits faster in that situation.

247newsaroundtheworld.com

Coronavirus state tracker: ICU occupancy declines 18.3% in the last 14 days - 247 News Around The World

According to the California COVID-19 dashboard there are 5,561 patients hospitalized (confirmed and suspected) in California on Tuesday, Aug. 25. This is
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cabse5 said:
Do you support the protesting going on against the Floyd murder and the Taylor killing, for examples?
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I'm going to reject your post because you haven't established the relevance of the question. Does injustice in our criminal justice determine the scientific facts of viral propagation?
 
Moderate Right said:
Not wearing a mask doesn't endanger anyone else unless they aren't wearing THEIR masks.
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I do not think this is right based on the data. A person not wearing a mask, who is infected and progressed to the point of transmitting the disease, can still spread the virus to someone else wearing a mask. The mask does offer some protection though and reduces the risk of infection from someone infected with the virus who isn’t wearing a mask.

Yet, when two people wear a mask, the risk of infection is very, very low.


Your Mask Cuts Own Risk by 65 Percent

Scientific evidence is clear: Social distancing and wearing masks help prevent people from spreading COVID-19, and masks also protect those who wear them, two UC Davis Health experts said on UC Davis LIVE: COVID-19. A range of new research on face coverings shows that the risk of infection to...
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Moderate Right said:
I understand that if you don't want Covid then you should wear a mask. If others want to risk themselves then that's on them. They are of little risk to you if you are wearing YOUR mask.
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I've explained your error numerous times, at least try and change up your trolling over time.
 
Moderate Right said:
That's because mask mandates don't work. They couldn't even enforce it in the most liberal state in the country. And, it is the young liberal progressives under the age of 30 who aren't obeying the mask mandate!
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Mask mandates have worked, it is documented they’ve worked. They’ve worked in some states in the U.S. So, maybe you should illuminate specifically where mask mandates haven’t worked.

They couldn't even enforce it in the most liberal state in the country.
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Did they make a concerted effort to enforce the mask mandates? Did they make any effort?


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Moderate Right said:
Not wearing a mask doesn't endanger anyone else unless they aren't wearing THEIR masks.
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You've never heard of game theory.

Interesting.




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Moderate Right said:
It doesn't matter about Connecticut. Mask mandates don't work. Out of the entire country, maybe mask mandates work about 10% of the time. Cases are currently rising pretty much everywhere, including the areas with mask mandates. You guys seem to forget that we don't live in fantasyland. Yes, mask mandates would work better if there was 100% compliance but not even liberal California is having their mask mandate work. It's nothing but a leftist fantasy. For the most part, mask mandates DON'T work. Just because they would work with 100% compliance doesn't mean that they work because that is fantasy land, not the real world.
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It does matter about Connecticut and New York and New Jersey, and Rhode Island and New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Vermont. Yes it does because WE got it contained so YOU wouldn't die. If we didn't take steps to mitigate and contain this, the way it was tearing through us like wildfire in Feb and March then everyone in this country would have suffered much more than they already have.

Stop trying to tell me what's happening in my own state unless you live here, you don't know shit about what's going on here.
 
Moot said:
The mask mandate is working in my county. :rock
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Wearing masks is strictly enforced where I live. Nevertheless, Covid-19 is a vile contagion. People are hurting. It is heartbreaking to see three generations of our families wearing masks and socially distancing in public.

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In conclusion, mask mandates work when the percentage of morons in a given community is low, but they don't work when that percentage is high.
 
Yakshi said:
In conclusion, mask mandates work when the percentage of morons in a given community is low, but they don't work when that percentage is high.
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As a wise man once said, you can't fix stupid.
 
Moderate Right said:
It doesn't matter about Connecticut. Mask mandates don't work. Out of the entire country, maybe mask mandates work about 10% of the time. Cases are currently rising pretty much everywhere, including the areas with mask mandates. You guys seem to forget that we don't live in fantasyland. Yes, mask mandates would work better if there was 100% compliance but not even liberal California is having their mask mandate work. It's nothing but a leftist fantasy. For the most part, mask mandates DON'T work. Just because they would work with 100% compliance doesn't mean that they work because that is fantasy land, not the real world.
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First, where’s the evidence for the data point “work about 10% of the time”?

Second, some clarity is needed. What is meant by “work”? How is that measured? It is an ambiguous term.

Maybe some hypothetical math is helpful.

If masks saved 2,000 a month, that’s 1.3 people a day for a 30 calendar day for each 50 states. Such a number supports the notion masks “work.” Multiply 2000 by 12 months, and 24,000 people are saved, just below the death toll in NYC. Multiply 2,000 by 5 months, and 10,000 people are saved (April to September). https://www.maskssavelives.org/


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Masks Save Lives

Reminding others that “masks save lives” isn’t just sound advice. It’s a scientific fact that wearing one in public can help to slow the spread of SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19.…
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My point here is mixed compliance, some compliance, saves lives. Maybe that’s enough?

So, what’s the low number saved to say mask “mandates do not work”?


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Moderate Right said:
California instituted a mask mandate on June 18, two months ago. On that date they had 4084 new cases for June 18th. Two months after the mask mandate yesterday, August 18th, California had 4636 new cases for the day. On June 18th, the first day of the mask mandate, California had 82 new deaths and two months after the mask mandate, on August 18th, they had 100 new deaths for the day. California | The COVID Tracking Project

And, whether you are in a red state or a blue state, people aren't going to wear their masks whether there is a mask mandate or not and most of these people are the younger invincible liberals aged 20-29 who aren't about to stop going to beaches and bars.
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What a twisted and misleading spin post.

Here's Reality:
70 percent of new coronavirus cases are coming from red states
 
apdst said:
You never said...lol
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Yes, I did....

Mask Mandates Don't Work

They don't work if they are not adhered too Which is why mask mandates don't work. They will never be adhered to, especially by the young liberal progressive invincible age group of 20-29 who refuse to stop going to beaches, partying, and bars. Especially when they amass by the thousands or...
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Lisa said:
The Covid19 mask mandate cut the new infections by 30% in Ohio.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news...ses-down-31-in-first-month-since-mask-mandate

What is your problem with wearing a mask when interacting with people? The mask mandate is there for the general good, just like DUI laws and food safety laws.
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. If people don't want to get the virus then they should wear a mask. If people don't want to wear a mask then let them get the virus. Mask wearing people aren't going to get the virus even if others aren't wearing their masks, which means the link you posted is a crock of shit. If people don't want to wear their masks then let them get the virus. They aren't hurting anyone but themselves.
 
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PoliSciXtina said:
It's working well in my county. Ever since they mandated masks, case numbers have gone down.
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But people have the right to get the virus if they want to take the chance. As long as you are wearing YOUR mask then you don't have to worry. Let them get the virus if they want to.
 
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