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In all seriousness, what is it about trump that makes him so attractive to so many people?

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A "healthy economy" from Obama. Not reading. A piddling GMT of 1.6.%, sagging markets. Take a look at the stock markets' react to Trump's election:

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Notice that prominent jump in early November - Election Day. And that upward movement continued throughout his term until the Pandemic. It caused briefly and then started another surge until early in Biden's term and has never made it back.
The stock market is not the economy. The top twenty percent of americans own eighty percent of the stocks.
 

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The stock market is not the economy. The top twenty percent of americans own eighty percent of the stocks.
And 50% have stock market exposure. It's also widely consideered a leading indicator for economic activity. Nice try - you reciting your LW mantra perfectly.
 

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And 50% have stock market exposure. It's also widely consideered a leading indicator for economic activity. Nice try - you reciting your LW mantra perfectly.
Huh? Fifty percent of who has stock market exposure?
 

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The stock market is not the economy. The top twenty percent of americans own eighty percent of the stocks.

The chart he posted was of 30 stocks. Buybacks goosed that chart, 40% corporate rate tax cut goosed buybacks to record levels.

Buy down the number of outstanding shares by 1/3 and there is half the gain represented in the chart. Monthly federal borrowing
immediately doubled from 57$ billion to $106 billion and never dropped below $100 billion per month for the rest of his presidency,

 

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Let's try not to make this about me or the democrats. I really want to try to understand what it is about trump that garners so much loyalty from so many?

What has he done to help the people of west virginia, mississippi, louisiana? The folks in the middle of the country? I hear many don't like the man but like his policies? Such as?

He ran up the debt just like most presidents, so not fiscally responsible. He is a pathological liar. He was impeached, twice. He and the gop in general lost in 2018, 2020, 2022, he's currently being looked at from law enforcement from several directions and once again is calling for his supporters to 'protest' should he be indicted.

So why? What is the attraction?
The soft orange glow from his face?
 

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Let's try not to make this about me or the democrats. I really want to try to understand what it is about trump that garners so much loyalty from so many?

What has he done to help the people of west virginia, mississippi, louisiana? The folks in the middle of the country? I hear many don't like the man but like his policies? Such as?

He ran up the debt just like most presidents, so not fiscally responsible. He is a pathological liar. He was impeached, twice. He and the gop in general lost in 2018, 2020, 2022, he's currently being looked at from law enforcement from several directions and once again is calling for his supporters to 'protest' should he be indicted.

So why? What is the attraction?

Same reason ”pro” wrestling is popular. Dumb entertainment geared toward negative emotions.
 

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The lowest unemployment rate in history for minority Americans.
Beat that Mr. Biden. He can't and more importantly, he or his handlers won't. Ever.

Biden may well beat that. The bottom of the long trend (which began under Obama) was 5.3% (Aug 2019). After a horrendous leap to 16.8% (due to Covid layoffs), it fell rapidly under Biden to 5.4% (Jan 2023).

Yes, 5.3% is lower than 5.4% but you want to hang your hat on that as though Biden can't do better. Well just wait and see: unless there's a recession the downward trend will continue.

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Low unemployment, including minorities, booming economy and stock market, low inflation, record household incomes, most major economic indicators skyrocketing, rapid recovery from Pandemic recession, inflation < 2%.. Yeah it was horrible. :rolleyes:

All these things happen late in a recovery cycle. Look at the Black unemployment rate for instance:

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Trump didn't do that. The economy did that.
 

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I've always loved Trump policy! It's not out there, extreme, or flashy. It's just good old fashioned and rather boring - good for Americans - policy.
And, very importantly, I think this country is much safer when Trump is in office. Leaders with nefarious intentions toward America, choose not to test Donald Trump. That's a VERY good thing about his leadership.
 

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Here’s a lame one….

He’s not Biden.
 

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I've always loved Trump policy! It's not out there, extreme, or flashy. It's just good old fashioned and rather boring - good for Americans - policy.

Yeah like rewriting NAFTA to have a different name. Flirting with a trade war with China, thus exposing US farmers and manufacturers to counter sanctions that they had to be bailed out of (free trade lol). Building a wall. Repealing and replacing Obamacare.

Thankfully, Trump was a failure at implementing most of his dreadful policies. Insulting Congress before he even took office, sure didn't help.

And, very importantly, I think this country is much safer when Trump is in office. Leaders with nefarious intentions toward America, choose not to test Donald Trump. That's a VERY good thing about his leadership.

Or maybe he just backed down and gave them whatever they wanted. We still don't know what he gave North Korea, but isn't it suspicious that they stopped nuclear testing? The alternative explanation, that Trump threatened them, is too horrible to contemplate.

Trump's record is of standing down (Syria and Afghanistan) and that's fine. Maybe the US shouldn't have been in either place. But you can't square that with Trump being a strong leader that other powers fear to tangle with. You're trying to have it both ways.
 

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Idiotic comment. Pointing out harmful propaganda and lies is your new word for the day: citizenship.
Is that what you're doing? I don't see you pointing out any propaganda or lies. Sounds like you're trying to argue with me for saying it's naive to think any media outlet doesn't lie.
 

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I've always loved Trump policy! It's not out there, extreme, or flashy. It's just good old fashioned and rather boring - good for Americans - policy.
Trump is hateful and divisive. That may be old fashioned for some, but not good for America. Ban Muslims and stop those Mexicans. White Lives Matter.
And, very importantly, I think this country is much safer when Trump is in office.
Until disaster strikes. Would you like your covid straight up or on the rocks?
Leaders with nefarious intentions toward America, choose not to test Donald Trump.
Test him? They laugh at him.

That's a VERY good thing about his leadership.
True love. Sad.
 

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If you have sex with a porn star (a Christian thing) and then pay that porn star to keep quiet (a Christian thing) about it so you can win an election (a Christian thing) and then reimburse yourself for the payment (a Christian thing) and then lie about the whole thing (a Christian thing) while simultaneously throwing your own attorney under the bus (a Christian thing) and letting HIM go to jail for it (a Christian thing) while you sit in the White House, then yes… they will probably come for you too.
 

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You do production and I'll steal the designs. This one's a hot seller.

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I'll figure out how to sell them this one. They're cute when confused.
Jesus is my god, but trump is my savior. I predict big sales for that one.
 
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