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In all seriousness, what is it about trump that makes him so attractive to so many people?

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I have that on a coffee cup and a few others.
 
If you have sex with a porn star (a Christian thing) and then pay that porn star to keep quiet (a Christian thing) about it so you can win an election (a Christian thing) and then reimburse yourself for the payment (a Christian thing) and then lie about the whole thing (a Christian thing) while simultaneously throwing your own attorney under the bus (a Christian thing) and letting HIM go to jail for it (a Christian thing) while you sit in the White House, then yes… they will probably come for you too.
Lol....only Christians have sex with a porn star and lie about it. :ROFLMAO:
 
I would venture to say closer to 100% have exposure to the markets. When they crash, we all pay regardless of whether we have stocks or not.
When I say "exposure" I mean their finances include stock ownership - directly, or indirectly through mutual funds pensions, IRAs, 401ks, etc.
 
All these things happen late in a recovery cycle. Look at the Black unemployment rate for instance:

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Trump didn't do that. The economy did that.
And Trump, of course, had nothing to do with the economy. :rolleyes:
Funny that a lot of the progress happened after the GOP took control of the House, and then the Senate as well, huh.
 
his humility
 
When I say "exposure" I mean their finances include stock ownership - directly, or indirectly through mutual funds pensions, IRAs, 401ks, etc.
And just how much do you think a family of four earning 90k a year can manage to invest in the stock market annually?
 
Let's try not to make this about me or the democrats. I really want to try to understand what it is about trump that garners so much loyalty from so many?

What has he done to help the people of west virginia, mississippi, louisiana? The folks in the middle of the country? I hear many don't like the man but like his policies? Such as?

He ran up the debt just like most presidents, so not fiscally responsible. He is a pathological liar. He was impeached, twice. He and the gop in general lost in 2018, 2020, 2022, he's currently being looked at from law enforcement from several directions and once again is calling for his supporters to 'protest' should he be indicted.

So why? What is the attraction?

This has been done to death: he wasn't afraid to say the stuff they were thinking. All other GOP candidates would tiptoe around the racial and social and sexual issues, whereas Trump just blurted out the meanest stuff he thought he could get away with and he did.
 
And just how much do you think a family of four earning 90k a year can manage to invest in the stock market annually?
That's up to them. You can get into mutual funds for $100 a month; if your employer hs 401k w/match - put in as much as you can. IF your employer has a defined benefit pension it's like backed by stock market you're in the market. Millions and millions are doing it.
 
Let's try not to make this about me or the democrats. I really want to try to understand what it is about trump that garners so much loyalty from so many?

What has he done to help the people of west virginia, mississippi, louisiana? The folks in the middle of the country? I hear many don't like the man but like his policies? Such as?

He ran up the debt just like most presidents, so not fiscally responsible. He is a pathological liar. He was impeached, twice. He and the gop in general lost in 2018, 2020, 2022, he's currently being looked at from law enforcement from several directions and once again is calling for his supporters to 'protest' should he be indicted.

So why? What is the attraction?
In 2016 the attraction for many was that he wasn't Hillary. In 2020 it was that he wasn't Biden.

Why is it so difficult for some people to understand that often in an election, votes are cast AGAINST the other possible choice? Just because I may at time decide to eat lunch at Taco Bell instead of McDonald's when I am on the road; it doesn't actually mean I love Taco Bell...

What it means is that I hate McDonald's so much, that I may be willing to eat at Taco Bell if I have no other viable options.
 
His 2017 tax cuts for the wealthy translated into $1.37 less Federal income tax for the little guy.
 
His manly endowments.
 
In 2016 the attraction for many was that he wasn't Hillary. In 2020 it was that he wasn't Biden.

Why is it so difficult for some people to understand that often in an election, votes are cast AGAINST the other possible choice? Just because I may at time decide to eat lunch at Taco Bell instead of McDonald's when I am on the road; it doesn't actually mean I love Taco Bell...

What it means is that I hate McDonald's so much, that I may be willing to eat at Taco Bell if I have no other viable options.
Conceptually correct, but I think Biden won because he wasn't Trump rather than Trump getting votes because he wasn't Biden. Both sides are lacking prominent, decent candidates who appeal to other than the extreme fringes of their parties. Means that they get the fringe votes, plus the 'can't vote for the other side votes', but the center is up for grabs. Biden is closer to the center and less personally repulsive than Trump. End result = President Biden performing better than the GOP claimed he would, and Trump making himself daily less electable as his skeletons exit the closet.
 
Bone Spurs Donnie (and Meatball Ron) want to drag America back to 1950.

They appeal to all the Christian white-power nationalists, social fascists, and misogynists in America.
 
@bongsaway I think the basics are about trump being effective at exploiting people's weaknesses for propaganda and cons. It raises real questions about the idea of democracy as people capable of self-rule versus the vulnerabilities. It's analogous to why we don't let children vote, but destroys the basis of democracy when applies to adult voters.

We don't address it by limiting propaganda, in the name of 'free speech', the idea that attempting to do so would backfire and silence better speech; we don't address it by reducing the fortunes that pay for it or limiting the use of money for political gain, because they have defeated those policies, buying politicians and the Supreme Court
 
And yet every day we hear some MAGA fool blame the debt and all the corresponding inflation directly on Biden. Thank you for clearing that up.
Joe certainly deserves some of the blame just as Trump did, The president certainly has influence. However the point is that congress clearly and constitutionaslly holds the purse strings and gets the lions share of the blame for deficit spending. And Trump did have to deal with a librul controlled congress.
 
Joe certainly deserves some of the blame just as Trump did, The president certainly has influence. However the point is that congress clearly and constitutionaslly holds the purse strings and gets the lions share of the blame for deficit spending. And Trump did have to deal with a librul controlled congress.
"Some of the blame"? That is not what the GOP has been trying to sell. The GOP and supporters not only blame all the inflation in America on Biden directly.... They also blame the Worldwide inflation on Biden. By the GOP's way of thinking, everything bad is Biden's fault.
Claiming victimhood and placing blame.... It's a GOP specialty.
 
"Some of the blame"? That is not what the GOP has been trying to sell. The GOP and supporters not only blame all the inflation in America on Biden directly.... They also blame the Worldwide inflation on Biden. By the GOP's way of thinking, everything bad is Biden's fault.
Claiming victimhood and placing blame.... It's a GOP specialty.
Is the GOP living in your head rent free? Just read a few Americqan Goverment books and do the math. The president cannot spend a dime without congressional approval and a presidential veto can be over-ridden by congress.Again, that does not mean the president has no power over th budget. If we ever give the president the power of a "Line Item Veto", then the president would be at least close to equal. Using that, a president could trim alot of pork from congressional spending.
 
Let's try not to make this about me or the democrats. I really want to try to understand what it is about trump that garners so much loyalty from so many?

What has he done to help the people of west virginia, mississippi, louisiana? The folks in the middle of the country? I hear many don't like the man but like his policies? Such as?

He ran up the debt just like most presidents, so not fiscally responsible. He is a pathological liar. He was impeached, twice. He and the gop in general lost in 2018, 2020, 2022, he's currently being looked at from law enforcement from several directions and once again is calling for his supporters to 'protest' should he be indicted.

So why? What is the attraction?
Some like the professional wrestling atmosphere he brings. Others like me hate that,but appreciate many stands he has made. Like some of his pikicies,policies,, immigration. Anti war (at least less war) abortion etc.

I would never vote for him though.
 
Some like the professional wrestling atmosphere he brings. Others like me hate that,but appreciate many stands he has made. Like some of his pikicies,policies,, immigration. Anti war (at least less war) abortion etc.

I would never vote for him though.
Think about what you just said, some like the pro wrestling atmosphere he brings. His immigration policies, did what? Stopped people from immigrating to america? He locked people up, tore apart families, you like that kind of thing? Treated them as sub human, I'm not into that kind of thing. Abortion should be a choice for the woman, not the president or politicians. Anti war you say? Biden actually pulled our troops out after decades and he caught a ration of shit for it from your party. Trump talked biden is doing.
 
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