How Obama is Invading Your Home | Competitive Enterprise Institute
The Obama administration isn't satisfied giving the American public vast things we don't want — from stimulus packages to bailouts to ObamaCare: It's a small-scale nuisance, too — witness its attempt to redesign home appliances.
Just weeks after taking office, the president ordered the Energy Department to speed up the process of issuing harsh new energy-efficiency standards for appliances.
In the pipeline are dumb regulations for almost everything that plugs in or fires up in your home.
In nearly every case, consumers who want more efficient appliances — or those compact fluorescent light bulbs — are free to buy them. Energy-use labels tell you everything you need to know to make comparisons. All the federal rules do is is to force the government's preferred choice on everyone.
Once again, a government agencies unaccountable to the masses shoving crap down our throats.
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I'm less concerned about the Department of Energy having stricter standards for appliances and more concerned about the greater powers given to FISA courts under Bush.
Fisa continued under obama
Cfl bulbs are full of mercury.
Hooray progress. :roll:
Citation of any CFL that has 1.5mg of mercury?CFLs contain, on average, about 4mg of mercury. Some as low as 1.5mg.
The same power plants will end up putting the same amount of mercury in the atmosphere as long as coal is used. You're hanging a red herring on incandecent bulbs. Second, CFL's are considered toxic and mercury vapor used in CFL's, as other forms are mercury are cumulative, meaning - they can accumulate in a house over time. Thinking of how many incandecent lightbulbs have busted over the years in my house - were they CFL's my home may be toxic to animal or children for that matter. Third, mercury CFL bulbs have to be disposed of in a toxic recycling facility - not so with incandecent lightbulbs. And lastly - if I want to pay more and use inefficient appliances, bulbs, cars, computers, etc... who has the right to tell me I cannot as long as I pay for the inefficency?In fact, an incandescent bulb ends up putting more mercury into the environment just from the extra electricity use. (mercury being a small part of the emissions of coal power plants)
And there's nothing wrong with them. 200 years old, or 2,000 years old when something works it works. Until some smart person invents a non-toxic updated version of a lightbulb that's more efficient and affordable, I'm stocking up on incandecent bulbs.Incandescent bulbs are 200 year old technology. Sorry.
Until some smart person invents a non-toxic updated version of a lightbulb that's more efficient and affordable.
This thread encapsulates the American political debate. The conservative makes an irrational untrue claim which evokes a fearful emotional response. The liberal side responds with rational factual argument which is largely lost in the fear. Their problem is not the message but the mode of transmission.
Halogen and LED lights do not have mercury. CFLs contain, on average, about 4mg of mercury. Some as low as 1.5mg. In fact, an incandescent bulb ends up putting more mercury into the environment just from the extra electricity use. (mercury being a small part of the emissions of coal power plants)
Incandescent bulbs are 200 year old technology. Sorry.
They have, LED light bulbs.
I wouldn't limit it to only conservatives, but this is the problem here. And partisans are more than willing to swallow their critical thinking and willingly suspend their disbelief.
This thread encapsulates the American political debate. The conservative makes an irrational untrue claim which evokes a fearful emotional response. The liberal side responds with rational factual argument which is largely lost in the fear. Their problem is not the message but the mode of transmission.
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no really...
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I'm stocking up on incandecent bulbs.
They have, LED light bulbs.
Better hurry....
Sep 8, 2010 ... The radical left forced the last US light bulb plant to close its doors. From now on we will import all of green bulbs from China. ... .
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Always good to some things never change. But a worthy response from you would be a nice change all the same. MS was correct. People are hyperbolic in their misbeliefs. Perhaps you would limit that to republicans, I can only guess from your response, but he was otherwise correct.
Green Lighting Guide | Environmental Working GroupCitation of any CFL that has 1.5mg of mercury?
Incorrect. You can calculate the mercury emissions of a coal plant per kilowatt-hour. One incandescent bulb ends up emitting more mercury than the mercury contained in the CFL + the mercury from CFL energy use.The same power plants will end up putting the same amount of mercury in the atmosphere as long as coal is used. You're hanging a red herring on incandecent bulbs.
Second, CFL's are considered toxic and mercury vapor used in CFL's, as other forms are mercury are cumulative, meaning - they can accumulate in a house over time. Thinking of how many incandecent lightbulbs have busted over the years in my house - were they CFL's my home may be toxic to animal or children for that matter. Third, mercury CFL bulbs have to be disposed of in a toxic recycling facility - not so with incandecent lightbulbs. And lastly - if I want to pay more and use inefficient appliances, bulbs, cars, computers, etc... who has the right to tell me I cannot as long as I pay for the inefficency?
Regarding the article - I have a few houses I rent and have remodeled. I would not install new toilets in my own house as the high efficiency toilets - well, they suck. Yep I use more water at my house, but I also have my own well. All these bans and changes are going to do is push the "inefficient" stuff into the second or third markets. Go down to some shabby part of town, not for drugs or prostitutes, but for a refurbed shower head, some light bulbs and a blender that actually blends something. Mass use and the incorrect disposal of CFL's under the guise of "efficiency" will eventually poison people, give them cancer and with mercury - it never goes away. Even 4mg of it. Give me the inefficient Edison lightbulb any day.
And there's nothing wrong with them. 200 years old, or 2,000 years old when something works it works. Until some smart person invents a non-toxic updated version of a lightbulb that's more efficient and affordable, I'm stocking up on incandecent bulbs.
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