How Long does it take Sen. Leader Mitch McConnell to change a light bulb?

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you: "Pelosi did't come to the table"
me: Um, yes she was when McC said "don't negotiate"
you: "McC didn't come to the table!"
me: Good grief.....

I almost feel sorry for how stupid your arguments have become.

At no point were there negotiations with the persons that matter when passing a bill, the leaders of the House and Senate.

Good grief indeed.

 

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demonstrably false.


there was no senate bill. they never even attempted one.

You lied what again?

Senate Democrats block slimmed-down GOP coronavirus bill as talks continue

Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin are continuing negotiations over a larger package.

www.cbsnews.com

 

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At no point were there negotiations with the persons that matter when passing a bill, the leaders of the House and Senate.

Good grief indeed.

That's because the Senate never paid the price of admission to a conference... passage of their version of the bill.

 

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That's because the Senate never paid the price of admission to a conference... passage of their version of the bill.

So, who blocked the Senate bill again? Does it take the Senate and the House to pass a bill or doesn't it?

According to you, I guess, if the Senate doesn't pass a bill they don't vote on legislation from the House? Your stance is stupid and wrong.

 

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So, who blocked the Senate bill again? Does it take the Senate and the House to pass a bill or doesn't it?

According to you, I guess, if the Senate doesn't pass a bill they don't vote on legislation from the House? Your stance is stupid and wrong.

Don't want your bill blocked? Here's an idea... try proposing something that can actually pick up support from the other side of the aisle. All McConnell needed was 7 Democratic votes... I listed 7 Democratic centrists earlier in this thread that he could swayed, but he didn't even try. All I can surmise from that is that he didn't want a stimulus bill all along.

 

[rahl]

You lied what again?

Senate Democrats block slimmed-down GOP coronavirus bill as talks continue

Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin are continuing negotiations over a larger package.

www.cbsnews.com

nope. from your own citation...............................The Republican measure failed to garner the 60 votes needed to advance on the Senate floor. Democrats argue that the Republican proposal did not go far enough, and question why Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has not brought a $2.4 trillion proposal passed in the House to the floor. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said that the vote was a political stunt, as McConnell knew the bill did not have the votes to pass.

 

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At least the Republicans aren't trying to score other political points, they just want to pass a stimulus bill---Democrats got politically greedy.

Ya could have shortened that post .
To "The Republicans aren't trying . period.
If the Republicans wanted to pass a stimulus bill they would have , if they wanted to???

 

[presluc]

Don't want your bill blocked? Here's an idea... try proposing something that can actually pick up support from the other side of the aisle. All McConnell needed was 7 Democratic votes... I listed 7 Democratic centrists earlier in this thread that he could swayed, but he didn't even try. All I can surmise from that is that he didn't want a stimulus bill all along.

This bill was passed in September, he stalled then stalled again in October, then said after the election which is today so where's the elusive stimulus package now..
Buried with a lot of other bills on McConnell's pile of bills .

 

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Senator Mitch McConnell, Republican of Kentucky and the majority leader, told Republican senators privately on Tuesday that he has advised the White House not to strike a deal with Speaker Nancy Pelosi on a new stimulus bill before Election Day, cautioning against reaching an agreement that most in the party cannot accept.

McConnell Pushes Against Stimulus Deal (Published 2020)

www.nytimes.com

Old news , with McConnell it's not about what's in the bill , it's about which political party's name is on it.

 

[presluc]

You wanna negotiate? Well, bring something to the table. Pass a freaking bill.

What bill has the Republicans submitted to help the American people.
Unless you count that old crap about give a lot of money to the rich it will help the average and poor. lol, lol
You give a lot of money to te rich they keep it.

 

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What bill has the Republicans submitted to help the American people.
Unless you count that old crap about give a lot of money to the rich it will help the average and poor. lol, lol
You give a lot of money to te rich they keep it.

There's nothing more aptly named than "trickle down economics" - because that's exactly what the stimulus is by the time it reaches the bottom... a trickle.

 

[presluc]

Exactly, what the hell does it have to do with a stimulus package and why did the House pass it that way?

Not all bills pass the Congress with everything they have in it.
So I repeat the question not enough votes to strike that from the stimulus package????

 

[presluc]

There's nothing more aptly named than "trickle down economics" - because that's exactly what the stimulus is by the time it reaches the bottom... a trickle.

Please not the old "spin game".
The difference between the "trickle down economics" and stimulus package is quite different.
Stimulus package= Money is sent from the Government to people needing help.
Trickle down theory= The government is going to give a lot of money to the rich the rich will then get it to the poor.
The trickle down theory had a transportation problem because the trickle became a slow drip pretty fast, and then just s t o p p ed. .

 

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At no point were there negotiations with the persons that matter when passing a bill, the leaders of the House and Senate.

Good grief indeed.

The stupid argument continues!
The reason the WH is negotiating with the House leadership.......is because, as you said, McC is NOT "coming to the table". McC's priority was replacing RBG and not putting his Senators on the defensive explaining why they voted to increase spending in an election year.

Party before nation.

 

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Not all bills pass the Congress with everything they have in it.
So I repeat the question not enough votes to strike that from the stimulus package????

Considering Collins and Murkowski? Probably not.

 

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nope. from your own citation...............................The Republican measure failed to garner the 60 votes needed to advance on the Senate floor. Democrats argue that the Republican proposal did not go far enough, and question why Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has not brought a $2.4 trillion proposal passed in the House to the floor. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said that the vote was a political stunt, as McConnell knew the bill did not have the votes to pass.

Schumer has called bills that have passed political stunts, so you keep listening to that jackass.

PS, 60 votes for cloture, are there 60 Republicans? It appears more than a few democrats blocked it.

 

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Schumer has called bills that have passed political stunts, so you keep listening to that jackass.

PS, 60 votes for cloture, are there 60 Republicans? It appears more than a few democrats blocked it.

60 votes because the Byrd Rule.

 

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60 votes because the Byrd Rule.

60 votes for cloture since 1975. Not a thing to do with the Byrd rule.

 

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60 votes for cloture since 1975. Not a thing to do with the Byrd rule.

You're right... it was a cloture vote on McConnell's Amendment. Six of one, a dozen of the other... it still required 60 votes to pass - he still had to reach out to the centrist Democrats if he wanted to get something passed. I know that. You know that. I'm pretty sure Senator McConnell knows that too.... so why didn't he?

 

[rahl]

Schumer has called bills that have passed political stunts, so you keep listening to that jackass.

why? He’s as useless and as big of a political hack as McConnell.

[/QUOTE]PS, 60 votes for cloture, are there 60 Republicans? It appears more than a few democrats blocked it.
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Because McConnell couldn’t get the senate to agree on 500B, which is an insult to the American who are hurting.

 

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why? He’s as useless and as big of a political hack as McConnell.

PS, 60 votes for cloture, are there 60 Republicans? It appears more than a few democrats blocked it.
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Because McConnell couldn’t get the senate to agree on 500B, which is an insult to the American who are hurting.
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Yes, I agree those Democrats are insulting Americans.

 

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You're right... it was a cloture vote on McConnell's Amendment. Six of one, a dozen of the other... it still required 60 votes to pass - he still had to reach out to the centrist Democrats if he wanted to get something passed. I know that. You know that. I'm pretty sure Senator McConnell knows that too.... so why didn't he?

You have proof he didn't, right?

 

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You have proof he didn't reach out to the centrist Democrats , right?

"The bill contained nothing for state and local governments (a trillion-dollar Democratic priority), nothing for election assistance, little for small businesses, and school assistance tainted by private-school subsidies demanded by Ted Cruz. It had no second stimulus check for individuals. Much of its bulk was devoted to a liability shield for corporations and non-profit institutions that most Democrats either oppose or would accept only in exchange for the kind of massive spending commitments the skinny bill rejected. Even in the Republican ranks, nobody loved this bill, but just enough of them hated it without passion; it will die an unmourned and unremembered death."

McConnell’s ‘Skinny Stimulus’ Bill Is Dead. Good Riddance.

A partisan pre-election symbolic measure, this bill loaded with poison pills has taken the two parties even further apart in stimulus negotiations.

nymag.com

 

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You have proof he didn't, right?

Proof is in the pudding.

 

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Proof is in the pudding.

So....no.