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How Long does it take Sen. Leader Mitch McConnell to change a light bulb?

jonny5 said:
We dont have a industrial society, we have service and technology society, 30 million people own small businesses, 15 million who work as contractors, and 60% of all workers are white collar. Median income in the us is 68k, and thats not because of wealth redistribution. Poor people are still poor, and no amount of spending on poverty has fixed, or will fix that.

But AGAIN, whats this all have to do with your claim that "the people who are doing okay are supposed to help the people who aren't...thats how its works"? No where in our constitution or founding principles will you find that. They way its supposed to work is you are free to pursue happiness how you want, whether thats helping others or not.
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Industrial, Post-Industrial, whatever you want to call it... I'm not really interested in rehashing the last 100 years with you. You want to go back to 1920... or maybe even 1880? Go ahead and stand for that. For myself, I'm going to concentrate on the present and the future and where we go from here to get to there. The choice is this - we either find a way to work together in a system where the people who have most benefited from the present system - and who have the most to lose from it's collapse - work the hardest and pay the most to maintain it, or the people who haven't benefited from it will decide they have nothing to lose by toppling it and starting over. To me, that's the matter in a nutshell.
 
Well last I heard about the stimulus package The Senate said after the election.
Well it's after the election so what now.
Maybe now McConnell went on vacation, maybe he's asleep and somebody need as to wake him up???
 
You're getting me wrong - I'm glad you aren't a Russian troll. I'd rather have more people on here that I disagree with... it'd be pretty boring if this place turned into some mutual admiration society.
 
Cordelier said:
Industrial, Post-Industrial, whatever you want to call it... I'm not really interested in rehashing the last 100 years with you. You want to go back to 1920... or maybe even 1880? Go ahead and stand for that. For myself, I'm going to concentrate on the present and the future and where we go from here to get to there. The choice is this - we either find a way to work together in a system where the people who have most benefited from the present system - and who have the most to lose from it's collapse - work the hardest and pay the most to maintain it, or the people who haven't benefited from it will decide they have nothing to lose by toppling it and starting over. To me, that's the matter in a nutshell.
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I say the latter then. If the direction the country is headed for is socialism, then its headed for a revolution anyway. Lets gets it over with. At this point, our govt has become destructive of securing rights, so we have a rightto abolish it and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to us shall seem most likely to effect our Safety and Happiness.
 
jonny5 said:
I say the latter then. If the direction the country is headed for is socialism, then its headed for a revolution anyway. Lets gets it over with. At this point, our govt has become destructive of securing rights, so we have a rightto abolish it and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to us shall seem most likely to effect our Safety and Happiness.
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Yes, I'm sure your fundamental freedoms are being trampled into oblivion. :rolleyes:
 
jonny5 said:
I say the latter then. If the direction the country is headed for is socialism, then its headed for a revolution anyway. Lets gets it over with. At this point, our govt has become destructive of securing rights, so we have a rightto abolish it and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to us shall seem most likely to effect our Safety and Happiness.
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2 things. First, government in the last 60 years has increasingly secured our rights. Second, you do not have a right to abolish the government via armed insurrection. That's called treason and will get you swiftly killed.
 
rahl said:
First, government in the last 60 years has increasingly secured our rights.
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Yea, I really feel like my rights have been secured lately.

rahl said:
Second, you do not have a right to abolish the government via armed insurrection. That's called treason and will get you swiftly killed.
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Seems to be going pretty well overall for Antifa.
 
Redwing said:
VIRUS STIMULUS BILL ...

This is why Republicans are blocking the 2 trillion dollar congressional bill !!!

Hard to believe but look it up on the Congressional website for HR 748 from 116th Congress.

American population: 330,483,530
Stimulus bill: $2,000,000,000,000

Dividing the cost by every in America is $6,051.74

The government could have given every person over $6,000, but instead will give $1,200 to each adult under a certain income.

Wanna know where the missing 96% of your tax dollars went?

$300,000,000 for Migrant and Refugee Assistance pg 147

$10,000 per person for student loan bailout

$100,000,000 to Nasa, because, who knows why.

$20,000,000,000 to the USPS, because why the hell not

$300,000,000 to the Endowment for the Arts - because of it

$300,000,000 for the Endowment for the Humanities/ because no one even knew that was a thing

$15,000,000 for Veterans Employment Training / for when the GI Bill isn't enough

$435,000,000 for mental health support

$30,000,000,000 for the Department of Education stabilization fund/ because that will keep people employed

$200,000,000 to Safe Schools Emergency Response to Violence Program

$300,000,000 to Public Broadcasting / NPR has to be bought by the Dems

$500,000,000 to Museums and Libraries / Who the hell knows how we are going to use it

$720,000,000 to Social Security Admin / but get this only 200,000,000 is to help people. The rest is for admin costs

$25,000,000 for Cleaning supplies for the Capitol Building / I kid you not it's on page 136

$7,500,000 to the Smithsonian for additional salaries

$35,000,000 to the JFK Center for Performing Arts

$25,000,000 for additional salary for House of Representatives

$3,000,000,000 upgrade to the IT department at the VA

$315,000,000 for State Department Diplomatic Programs

$95,000,000 for the Agency of International Development

$300,000,000 for International Disaster Assistance

$90,000,000 for the Peace Corp pg 148

$13,000,000 to Howard University pg 121

$ 9,000,000 Misc. Senate Expenses pg 134

$100,000,000 to Essential Air carriers pg 162 This of note because the Airlines are going to need billions in loans to keep them afloat.
$100,000,000 is chump change

$40,000,000,000 goes to the Take Responsibility to Workers and Families Act This sounds like it's direct payments for workers. Pg 164

$1,000,000,000 Airlines Recycle and Save Program pg 163

$25,000,000 to the FAA for administrative costs pg 165

$492,000,000 to National Railroad Passenger Corporation (Amtrak) pg 167

$526,000,000 Grants to Amtrak to remain available if needed through 2021 pg 168 (what are the odds that doesn't go unused)

Hidden on page 174 the Secretary has 7 days to allocate the funds & notify Congress

$25,000,000,000 for Transit Infrastructure pg 169

$3,000,000 Maritime Administration pg 172

$5,000,000 Salaries and Expensive Office of the Inspector General pg 172

$2,500,000 Public and Indian Housing pg 175

$5,000,000 Community Planning and Development pg 175

$2,500,000 Office of Housing

What DOES ALL of this have to do with the Virus?
Are you angry yet?
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Why would I be angry?
Some time back some corporations went whining like a bitch to the government 740 million went to CEO'S
Tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires were raised payed for by the American taxpayer.,as are research grants ..
So I don't think a couple of Trillion is a big deal.
How much is America in debt now???
That's not counting trade deficits???
 
Well McConnell just presented new spending bills for the Senate.
Now where is or what happened to the stimulus bill?
I don't know wasn't mentioned in the news that I read.
Maybe McConnell lost it or maybe his dog ate it ?
Maybe he's too busy trying to make Trump president ????
Didn't anybody tell McConnell, America already has a president Joe Biden.
 
presluc said:
Well McConnell just presented new spending bills for the Senate.
Now where is or what happened to the stimulus bill?
I don't know wasn't mentioned in the news that I read.
Maybe McConnell lost it or maybe his dog ate it ?
Maybe he's too busy trying to make Trump president ????
Didn't anybody tell McConnell, America already has a president Joe Biden.
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But we dont. The votes havent been counted yet. And even if he is the winner, he isnt President until January. But the stimulus bill status is the same as its always been. Both sides are waiting on a resolution to not only Presidential election, but the Senate. And both side cant agree on what should be in the bill. Why are you only blaming McConnell? The house can pass a bill just as easily.
 
presluc said:
Answer don't know if a light bulb blows instead of replacing it with a better one , he will stumble around in the dark looking for a cheaper one .

That is in fact what he has done with the second Stimulus package, While many American people are in dire straights , McConnell is still playing politics.
Watch your back Sen. Leader , you just might lose that title very soon , The American people that are waiting for that stimulus package that you continue to block ., Well many of them VOTE check the polls lately have ya?,
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Keep your day job.
 
jonny5 said:
But we dont. The votes havent been counted yet. And even if he is the winner, he isnt President until January. But the stimulus bill status is the same as its always been. Both sides are waiting on a resolution to not only Presidential election, but the Senate. And both side cant agree on what should be in the bill. Why are you only blaming McConnell? The house can pass a bill just as easily.
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McConnell had this bill in September it's now November.
Why does it matter who the President is?
This bill is for the American people not a political party.
What are you saying only if Trump was president then this bill would pass , that's BS.
And here I thought politicians were supposed to work for the American people not a political party or an individual.
 
American said:
Keep your day job.
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Ah I love getting advice from conservative r should I say right-wingers
Some advice for you , Republican.
When Trump goes down as a damaged politician, Republicans will become collateral damage.
Every Republican that sides with Trump will pay with consequences of their own.
 
presluc said:
Ah I love getting advice from conservative r should I say right-wingers
Some advice for you , Republican.
When Trump goes down as a damaged politician, Republicans will become collateral damage.
Every Republican that sides with Trump will pay with consequences of their own.
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Oh, so you're a pundit and a comedian. You suck at both.
 
presluc said:
McConnell had this bill in September it's now November.
Why does it matter who the President is?
This bill is for the American people not a political party.
What are you saying only if Trump was president then this bill would pass , that's BS.
And here I thought politicians were supposed to work for the American people not a political party or an individual.
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You thought wrong. Politicians work for getting re-elected. So long as Pelosi, McConnell, Biden, Trump can use the stimulus as a wedge issue, they will. Why do you keep acting like McConnel is the issue here? He is just one person.
 
jonny5 said:
You thought wrong. Politicians work for getting re-elected. So long as Pelosi, McConnell, Biden, Trump can use the stimulus as a wedge issue, they will. Why do you keep acting like McConnel is the issue here? He is just one person.
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This bill was passed in the House back in September.
It went to the Senate back in September, it was on the Senate leaders desk in September about the stimulus package Trump said go big or go home aka a big bill
So what happened ?
The house didn't block it , the president supported it, even ask for a big bill.
So a majority of the Democrats support it lead by Pelosi.
Well who does that leave the Senate and who is the Senate leader???
 
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