Ah, yet another Republican!, welcome young sir!Republican said:Hey, I'm Rachael and I love Politics. I'm from Tennessee and my claim to fame is meeting President Bush at a rally in 2002. I stood outside in line to get inside in 20 degree weather for 4 hours. But well worth it because I got to shake his hand. I'm a Conservative Republican. :mrgreen:
I suspect that Rachael may be a ms, miss, missus or ma'am rather than a sir.ShamMol said:Ah, yet another Republican!, welcome young sir!
Comrade Brian said:I Guess I should say hello, comrade!
Though I am a Communist, Republicans are worst than democrats, I hate all capitalists, dems included, Capitalism sucks, I can't wait till its overtrhown and replaced with socialism, then onward to communism, Bush is a hitlerist, I hope he chokes on his big fat rich feast, I don't know why people think they live under a democracy, your leaders are all filthy rich, it depends on all whos got more money, I despise governments.
You guys fill this forum, lol.vauge said:Welcome to Debate Politics!
Another conservative - brings a tear to my eye. There are still some of us left. :smile:
vauge said:Breaks news to CB...
There are some fine persons that are communist. So, if your out for total rebellion - communism is not the answer. It's a form of government, not quite a form of hate.
Comrade Brian said:I Guess I should say hello, comrade!
Though I am a Communist, Republicans are worst than democrats, I hate all capitalists, dems included, Capitalism sucks, I can't wait till its overtrhown and replaced with socialism, then onward to communism, Bush is a hitlerist, I hope he chokes on his big fat rich feast, I don't know why people think they live under a democracy, your leaders are all filthy rich, it depends on all whos got more money, I despise governments.
Comrade Brian. This is where you greet people. Not where you talk about overthrowing the government. Say hi, then start a thread about George Bush getting richer and choking on his "big fat rich feast(what the hell is that about anyway?)"
satanloveslibs said:I met the old George Bush back in 2000, I was only ten, but it rocked. I got out of school one day to see Bush speak, The best time I've ever had skipping school. I'm a conservative and that is, I guess, really it. I don't really know all of the details of a capatalist government and socialist government. could someone give me an explanation of each please?
I doubt very much he remembers me lol. But that's okay because I'll never forget that day. I mean to shake in what my opinion is the most powerful man in the world's hand WOW.Voice of Reason said:Welcome Rachael.
I look forward to seeing you around the site.
It is good that you shook his hand. My only question:
Does he remember you?
The Voice
Voice of Reason was way off on his definitons there. Once again, ignorance breeds support for capitalism.satanloveslibs said:I met the old George Bush back in 2000, I was only ten, but it rocked. I got out of school one day to see Bush speak, The best time I've ever had skipping school. I'm a conservative and that is, I guess, really it. I don't really know all of the details of a capatalist government and socialist government. could someone give me an explanation of each please?
anomaly said:Voice of Reason was way off on his definitons there. Once again, ignorance breeds support for capitalism.
Socialism: Socialism is characterised by redistributive policy, government running of the economy, and a completely planned economy, so as to not waste human or natural resources. (Obviously, that's a very bief definition, if you want a further definition ask me in an economic forum). Contrary to Voice of reason's definition, socialism does not eliminate the disparity of wealth but rather reduces it through the said redistributive policies. Therefore, motivation based on the desire for more wealth still can exist under socialism.
Capitalism: It is, in short, human production strictly for profit. It is characterized by by the private ownership over the means of production, that is, laissez-faire conditions, and the lack of a redistributive policy. Wages are set by employers, and, unless government intervenes, no minimum wage is seen. Capitalism usually involves mass unemployment and extreme inequality, again unless the governemnt intervenes.
Note that both are economic systems, not forms of government. Neither capitalism nor socialism is defined by the existence of democracy or despotism.
In capitalism, pure capitalism, the employer holds all rights. It is because of the prominence of labor unions and other pro-labor organisations in socialism that wealth disparity would shrink.Arthur Fonzarelli said:And in capitalism I can bargain my own wage to be higher than the average for a given job...something I have done on more than one occasion. Not so in socialism or even with advent of the labor union using a their stranglehold on an employer.
anomaly said:In capitalism, pure capitalism, the employer holds all rights. It is because of the prominence of labor unions and other pro-labor organisations in socialism that wealth disparity would shrink.
It would be no different with socialism, except what the 'employer' as we think of it is would be radically different. For example, today we have mangers and CEOs, with socialism we'd have a democratically elected government and a completely planned economy in which the workers will locally plan their workplace's production. I'd love to discuss with you, sir, and elaborate more thoroughly, and if you feel the same way post in the economics forum.Voice of Reason said:And in America if you wish to be the employer you can be one.
Hello, GPS. The fault should not be placed upon me, however. Satanloveslibs asked a question, and I've answered it. If that somehow meets your definition of exploitation, I apologize, yet I don't see how that is exploitation at all. In fact, if you'll read my last post in this forum, you'll see that I've tried to respect the rules for what is supposed to be discussed in this forum by trying to get this discussion over to the economics forum.GPS_Flex said:You know anomaly, I take it as a personal insult that you would come into this thread to promote your socialism/communism in this topic rather than saying hi to me in the topic that was above it.
If you had welcomed me to the forum before you posted your pro communism mantra, I might not be offended. You clearly don’t play by the rules but you think everyone in your utopian communist society will?
You broke the rules to gain an advantage over your opponent and you are exploiting this thread to meet your own ends; yet from what I’ve read of your posts, that’s one of your biggest gripes about capitalism.
If you can’t walk the walk….don’t talk the talk!
GPS_Flex said:You know anomaly, I take it as a personal insult that you would come into this thread to promote your socialism/communism in this topic rather than saying hi to me in the topic that was above it.
If you had welcomed me to the forum before you posted your pro communism mantra, I might not be offended. You clearly don’t play by the rules but you think everyone in your utopian communist society will?
You broke the rules to gain an advantage over your opponent and you are exploiting this thread to meet your own ends; yet from what I’ve read of your posts, that’s one of your biggest gripes about capitalism.
If you can’t walk the walk….don’t talk the talk!
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