Don't mess with Savage! U.K. home secretary quits

[obvious Child]

MPs' expenses: cabinet meltdown as Jacqui Smith heads resignations - Telegraph

Oddly, there appears to be absolutely no mention of Savage as being a reason for the resignation in the Telegraph.

Facts are such a pain in the *** aren't they?

 

[Laila]

Her being the first to have her expenses exposed and having exposed that her husband rented 2 porn movies and let the tax payers pay for it.

Yea, the Brits really care more about a man they never heard about and have forced her out because of this, than her morally abusing the system for financial gain.. yea that is totally logical.

Talk about the American right living in a whole different world....

You forgot the fact she is trying to steal all of our liberties for this idea of "security"

An exodus of the Labour party is occuring right now
This is so entertaining, i cannot wait till after the European elections. Hazel/Jacqui are in effect trying to overthrow Brown by quitting undermining his waning authority. Two senior cabinet members leaving in the space of 24 hours. Unprecedented. I almost feel sorry for him

 

[PeteEU]

You forgot the fact she is trying to steal all of our liberties for this idea of "security"

She doing nothing different than any minister or government since before Maggie Thatcher has not attempted and in many ways succeeded in. Just ask people in Northern Ireland about how Maggie and co took their rights and pissed up and down on them all in the name of "security".

An exodus of the Labour party is occuring right now

Yea, same thing happened when John Major's conservatives were tanking after Maggie Thatcher. Hell it started with Maggie being kicked out... internal revolution. At least Blair had the balls and brains to say stop before he was kicked out.

This is so entertaining, i cannot wait till after the European elections. Hazel/Jacqui are in effect trying to overthrow Brown by quitting undermining his waning authority. Two senior cabinet members leaving in the space of 24 hours. Unprecedented. I almost feel sorry for him

While it is maybe unprecedented within in 24 hours, it is not unprecedented that senior cabinet members jumping ship to save their own political skin.. again look at John Major and Maggie Thatcher, and probably before that too.

 

[Laila]

She doing nothing different than any minister or government since before Maggie Thatcher has not attempted and in many ways succeeded in.

The difference being she has suceeded where others have failed.

While it is maybe unprecedented within in 24 hours, it is not unprecedented that senior cabinet members jumping ship to save their own political skin.. again look at John Major and Maggie Thatcher, and probably before that too.

4 in 24 hours.
It has never happened on the eve of local elections, its unheard of.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Yeah, Limbaugh and Savage will be running together real soon.

I'll pay $1,000 if someone can prove that Savage and Limbaugh are friends or ever even met.


You people (you know who you are) are awfully critical of talk radio for having never listened.

Ask them what views of Rush or this savage feller's they disagree with and watc them scatter like cockroaches. :rofl

 

[rebelbuc]

A friend of mine said that they were "close". Not sure what that means but that is what he said, "close". I am not concerned, but I am not a GOPPER so why should I be.

You have no idea of what you discuss! Limbaugh never even acknowledges Savage and Savage usually is critical of Limbaugh and Hannity for clinging to the Republican party that has lost its way (that's the conservative way, not the moderate way for you who don't get it).

By the way... do you liberals know how to read? Nowhere did I suggest that Savage was a viable candidate for president. If I did, quote me back. What I said is that Savage's core values that he has stressed often in his radio broadcasts (borders, language, culture) are those that most Americans really value and would vote for. These core values are present in some conservative candidates, but, alas, those candidates are regularly demonized or ignored by the mainstream media.

 

[rebelbuc]

Who is Michael Savage and why do we care anyway?

See my previous post... it's not the man Savage, it's the ideals - borders, language, culture - that has been trashed by the MSM and liberal politicians.

Anyone who is ignorant of the importance of those ideals is missing something important, without which, American would not exist today (for Obama and his ilk to destroy).

 

[rebelbuc]

Yea...

Lets see.. Savage a shock radio jock from another country that is barely known outside his radical viewership

Don't worry, cowardly lion, America is becoming more EU-like every day with the help of Obama.

So, the UK and Smith didn't care about Savage... so why did this idiot put him on a list with terrorists and murderers? And don't give me that lame crap that was used as an excuse... about his incendiary hate speech being a "threat" to the UK... give me a break!

 

[rebelbuc]

We decided this a long time ago. Neither is daily kos, red state, democratic underground, free republic, etc.

(at least not for the purpose of the breaking news forum)

So what illusion do you moderates and liberals live under when you compare the accuracy of WorldNetDaily with sites like daily kos, red state, and demon. underground?

If WorldNetDaily made some errors in its posts it would only put it in the league with liberal rags like the New York Times! There is more truth, often an untold truth by MSM sources, in WorldNetDaily than in most newspapers these days.

You are showing the politically correct bias of Debate Politics by ignoring such information and ignoring the significance of this "breaking news".

 

[Tucker Case]

So what illusion do you moderates and liberals live under when you compare the accuracy of WorldNetDaily with sites like daily kos, red state, and demon. underground?

If WorldNetDaily made some errors in its posts it would only put it in the league with liberal rags like the New York Times! There is more truth, often an untold truth by MSM sources, in WorldNetDaily than in most newspapers these days.

You are showing the politically correct bias of Debate Politics by ignoring such information and ignoring the significance of this "breaking news".

Actually, WorldNetDaily sucks balls because they take a nugget of fact (That this broad is resigning) and distort the ever-living **** out of it to be about something totally and completely made up by WND.

Savage has absolutely, positively, jack **** to do with the resignation. WND basically made that up.

That's why WND is not a reputable news source.

 

[PeteEU]

Don't worry, cowardly lion, America is becoming more EU-like every day with the help of Obama.

And the EU wants to be more like the US.. go figure..

So, the UK and Smith didn't care about Savage... so why did this idiot put him on a list with terrorists and murderers?

Because he is no better than them? Do you really think the world revolves around the US? The average person out the US has never ever heard of Savage or the 2 Russian guys there or any of those on the list.

So yea, her leaving has zero, nada, nothing to do with this case at all and Savage. You and your kind are dillusional to think that it even remotely had anything to do with it.. the world does not revolve around the small narrowminded racist US religious right that is so vocal.

And don't give me that lame crap that was used as an excuse... about his incendiary hate speech being a "threat" to the UK... give me a break!

It is as much a threat than if it was a muslim cleric spewing out similar bs. But you got no problems with them on the list I see.

 

[Gardener]

See my previous post... it's not the man Savage, it's the ideals - borders, language, culture - that has been trashed by the MSM and liberal politicians.

Anyone who is ignorant of the importance of those ideals is missing something important, without which, American would not exist today (for Obama and his ilk to destroy).

Obama has ilk?

 

[Gardener]

It is as much a threat than if it was a muslim cleric spewing out similar bs. But you got no problems with them on the list I see.

If he had been a mulsim cleric spewing out filth, he would have been invited for tea.

 

[Red_Dave]

One of my fondest hopes is that the British will one day wake up and remember who they are.

Now of course, I have the same hope for Americans.

So we should go back to the good old days were we invented the concentration camp?

 

[Saboteur]

Okay I won't mess with Weiner.

 

[Oftencold]

So we should go back to the good old days were we invented the concentration camp?

No, we should go back to the good old days when such statements were met by embarrassed silence followed by hearty guffaws from the adults in the room.

 

[Red_Dave]

No, we should go back to the good old days when such statements were met by embarrassed silence followed by hearty guffaws from the adults in the room.

So you denny we invented the concentration camp? Thankfully my generation and my parents generation is willing to pay more attention to historical facts then my grandparents

 

[Laila]

So, the UK and Smith didn't care about Savage... so why did this idiot put him on a list with terrorists and murderers?

God knows.
This is Jacqui smith we are talking about ... She has never done anything right. I find it slightly irritating the Ex HS did not give us the rest of the names. They only released the ones they didn't care we saw

 

[akyron]

PROTIP: Don't accuse Obama of being a secret foreign muslim in on a conspiracy to defraud the country if you want to be taken seriously.

I can go for the bold part just by his actions so far. I wont even go into his banker lifetime minionship card.

 

[Scorpion89]

So we should go back to the good old days were we invented the concentration camp?

Really when did the English invent Concentration Camps huh source and link please for this outrages statement.

 

[Red_Dave]

Really when did the English invent Concentration Camps huh source and link please for this outrages statement.

please dont take the use of simple english wikipedia as patronising it was the first link i could find

The English words concentration camps were first used by the British in the Second Boer War in Africa around 1900. The families of South African men fighting against the British were put in camps to stop them from giving food and help to the fighters. Their houses and farms were burned. At least 30,000 people, mostly children, died in these camps from sickness or hunger.

[ame=http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentration_camp]Concentration camp - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

Edit: Heres a better one List of concentration and internment camps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Though they were not extermination camps, the women and children of Boer men who were still fighting were given smaller rations than others. The poor diet and inadequate hygiene led to endemic contagious diseases such as measles, typhoid and dysentery. Coupled with a shortage of medical facilities, this led to large numbers of deaths — a report after the war concluded that 27,927 Boer (of whom 22,074 were children under 16) and 14,154 black Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the camps. In all, about 25% of the Boer inmates and 12% of the black African ones died (although recent research suggests that the black African deaths were underestimated and may have actually been around 20,000).

 

[RightinNYC]

So what illusion do you moderates and liberals live under when you compare the accuracy of WorldNetDaily with sites like daily kos, red state, and demon. underground?

If WorldNetDaily made some errors in its posts it would only put it in the league with liberal rags like the New York Times! There is more truth, often an untold truth by MSM sources, in WorldNetDaily than in most newspapers these days.

You are showing the politically correct bias of Debate Politics by ignoring such information and ignoring the significance of this "breaking news".

PROTIP 2.0: When the "controversy" section of your wiki article is 5X as long as the rest of your article, you're a ****ty source of journalism.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily[/ame]

PS you really helped your credibility as an unbiased observer by referring to democrats as "demons"

 

[Wessexman]

MPs' expenses: cabinet meltdown as Jacqui Smith heads resignations - Telegraph

Oddly, there appears to be absolutely no mention of Savage as being a reason for the resignation in the Telegraph.

I was going to say the same, this is not why she resigned.

 

[Gill]

PROTIP 2.0: When the "controversy" section of your wiki article is 5X as long as the rest of your article, you're a ****ty source of journalism.

WorldNetDaily - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

PS you really helped your credibility as an unbiased observer by referring to democrats as "demons"

It would be better for everyone if Wikipedia was banned. It is more biased than any of the "outlaw" sources you named.

 

[obvious Child]

It would be better for everyone if Wikipedia was banned. It is more biased than any of the "outlaw" sources you named.

Incorrect. People should be kicked in the balls for citing Wikipedia without checking the references. Merely because you have been on the losing side of arguments where people cited Wikipedia does not equate to Wikipedia being more biased. It just means your argument are bad. Furthermore, the integrity holding debater will check the references to Wikipedia and then if they are wrong, can easily show how that article is not valid instead of just complaining and whining about how Wikipedia constantly destroys them and thus why it should be banned.