Democrat socialists stuck between the rock and the hard place

[kjwins]

The "court of public opinion" is misleading. It should more properly be said to be the "court of varying public opinions."

Yet eventually the Mob still rules.

 

[Praxas]

Oh, I give a **** about those people. I just don't want them illegally crossing our border.

Most aren't, they are seeking asylum. And since you give a crap (so you say) about Venezuelens, where is your concern and asking for US support for other oppressed nations? Oh wait, you are only using Venezuela because of POLITICAL reasons. Also still waiting for you to respond to WHY the US should meddle in Venezuela but not other oppressive countries.

 

[marke]

As often occurs in such issues, the wrong people attempt to force the wrong lesson on everyone else. Socialism has zero to do with this just like 'capitalism' had little to do with Chile or Argentina... :roll:

Dictators, no matter the faux label, rarely produce a stable expanding economy.... eace

Nevertheless, America is still one of the greatest nations on earth because it does not yet suffer under such a dictator and under such socialism silliness.

 

[marke]

Cortez is still relatively considered a child in the grand scheme of things.

Exactly.

 

[marke]

Yet eventually the Mob still rules.

Unless, of course, it cannot muster enough votes to beat Trump's veto.

 

[Cramer]

America is not broken and democrat socialists or communists do not need to try to 'fix' anything.

We may not be broken, but we are certainly not healthy.

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[kjwins]

Unless, of course, it cannot muster enough votes to beat Trump's veto.

If the Mob comes to life, Trump's veto won't matter.

 

[Idiometer]

I compare other national governments with America as originally established and improved over nearly 200 years. We don't need the modern socialist improvements a handful of wierdos now think should be made.

America was originally establish by and for white male property owners. We are not that anymore, and in their wisdom, they knew the demographics would change, which is why Thomas Jefferson said "No work of man is perfect. It is inevitable that, in the course of time, the imperfections of a written Constitution will become apparent. Moreover, the passage of time will bring changes in society which a Constitution must accommodate if it is to remain suitable for the nation. It was imperative, therefore, that a practicable means of amending the Constitution be provided."

He also said:

"Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country."

Progressives, including Democratic Socialists like Bernie Sanders, are not "a handful of weirdos." We're Americans, and there are many of us.

 

[marke]

We may not be broken, but we are certainly not healthy.

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The US may be the country with the greatest numbers of idiots in the world.

 

[marke]

If the Mob comes to life, Trump's veto won't matter.

What is that, a threat? By unarmed thugs who hate guns?

 

[kjwins]

What is that, a threat? By unarmed thugs who hate guns?

Not at all, some things are bigger than Trump. Lets hope we never get to that point were our guns are more important than our votes.

 

[Mycroft]

Most aren't, they are seeking asylum. And since you give a crap (so you say) about Venezuelens, where is your concern and asking for US support for other oppressed nations? Oh wait, you are only using Venezuela because of POLITICAL reasons. Also still waiting for you to respond to WHY the US should meddle in Venezuela but not other oppressive countries.

If they illegally cross the border to seek asylum, they are still illegally crossing the border.

btw, you ARE aware that Trump has given millions to the other "oppressed" nations in Central America as well as to Mexico, right?

 

[kjwins]

We may not be broken, but we are certainly not healthy.

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LMAO, dead nuts my brother. The greed of the boomers has ****ed this country so hard.

 

[marke]

America was originally establish by and for white male property owners.

So? What da problem is?

We are not that anymore, and in their wisdom, they knew the demographics would change, which is why Thomas Jefferson said "No work of man is perfect. It is inevitable that, in the course of time, the imperfections of a written Constitution will become apparent. Moreover, the passage of time will bring changes in society which a Constitution must accommodate if it is to remain suitable for the nation. It was imperative, therefore, that a practicable means of amending the Constitution be provided."

Submit your proposed changes to the Constitution to your Congressmen and traditional American patriots of all races will do the same, and we can let our representatives take it from there.

He also said:
"Some men look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the ark of the covenant, too sacred to be touched. They ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment. I knew that age well; I belonged to it, and labored with it. It deserved well of its country."

Lots of men had lots of different opinions in early America but the Constitution was codified into law for Americans to follow, not the opinions of men.

Progressives, including Democratic Socialists like Bernie Sanders, are not "a handful of weirdos." We're Americans, and there are many of us.

Sorry. Radical leftists look like weirdos to me just like Trump looks like a buffoon to them. I'm sorry to have to honestly say that.

 

[Praxas]

If they illegally cross the border to seek asylum, they are still illegally crossing the border.

btw, you ARE aware that Trump has given millions to the other "oppressed" nations in Central America as well as to Mexico, right?

Yes I am aware Trump has done that which I disagree with. Next?

 

[marke]

Not at all, some things are bigger than Trump. Lets hope we never get to that point were our guns are more important than our votes.

Good idea. Since guns are not likely to help the leftist liberal take over, perhaps skilled voter fraud will.

 

[kjwins]

Good idea. Since guns are not likely to help the leftist liberal take over, perhaps skilled voter fraud will.

We really don't have much voter fraud. But election fraud is everywhere. Just look at Hillary's emails & the Republican's Cross Check.

 

[marke]

We really don't have much voter fraud. But election fraud is everywhere. Just look at Hillary's emails & the Republican's Cross Check.

Democrat panel of crime and fraud protection investigators:

 

[kjwins]

Democrat panel of crime and fraud protection investigators:

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Maybe start fighting the class war & not the culture war my brother. Will you really fall for the old divide & conquer.

That is unless your in the 1%. Then have at it.

 

[Cramer]

The US may be the country with the greatest numbers of idiots in the world.

On this we agree. Look who got elected as POTUS.

 

[Myview]

Nonsense. AOC has expressed no opinion at all, likely because she is conflicted by the fact that socialist idealism like hers brought the nation of Venezuela to the brink of this disaster in the first place.



Maybe you are right and idealogues in Venezuela carried their socialist agenda too far and brought down the house of Venezuela because of it. For myself I see no reason to change traditional American government in the slightest with risky social experiments like those tried in Venezuela. Leave America alone, socialist idealogues. America was not broken before you came to try to 'fix' it.

Progressive don't care if no one expresses an opinion about Venezuela. We already have social programs and have had them for a long time. Our system of government isn't going to change no matter who is in power. The only people who care about what AOC thinks are Conservatives grasping for talking points.

 

[Myview]

Nonsense. AOC has expressed no opinion at all, likely because she is conflicted by the fact that socialist idealism like hers brought the nation of Venezuela to the brink of this disaster in the first place.



Maybe you are right and idealogues in Venezuela carried their socialist agenda too far and brought down the house of Venezuela because of it. For myself I see no reason to change traditional American government in the slightest with risky social experiments like those tried in Venezuela. Leave America alone, socialist idealogues. America was not broken before you came to try to 'fix' it.

Nonsense? Yes that's what you get when you use the daily caller as your only source of information. Try the red state article on the same thing. Its just as much garbage as the daily caller but at least it has the bit about AOC opining that she is concerned about the non democratic means of selecting a leader. Like I said the only people who care what AOC thinks are Conservatives.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Sanders’s praise for Venezuela speaks for itself.

Which you appear to be having difficulty sharing with us.

He supports many of the same economic policies and supported Chavez’s government.

Which you appear to be having difficulty sharing with us.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Which you appear to be having difficulty sharing with us.



Which you appear to be having difficulty sharing with us.

You yourself quoted Sanders in an earlier post referencing exactly what I’m talking about. You cannot claim ignorance now

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Nonsense? Yes that's what you get when you use the daily caller as your only source of information. Try the red state article on the same thing. Its just as much garbage as the daily caller but at least it has the bit about AOC opining that she is concerned about the non democratic means of selecting a leader. Like I said the only people who care what AOC thinks are Conservatives.

“Non Democratic means of selecting a leader” translation: she doesn’t want the socialists gone because she supports them. A dictatorship where people have food and security is morally superior to a “democracy” like Venezuela’s

We don’t need to fling ourselves at the altar of democracy, there is no moral requirement a government be one