"As a Democrat, I am disgusted with President Obama."

[Linc]

How is Sen. Heitkamp doing medically?

Anda is at the very least a democratic socialist with a number of his leanings. He'd probably make you blush.

 

[Linc]

I'm assuming you approve of his liberal domestic agenda.

Although never introduced, Nixon was the first President to consider UHC for the US. He also managed to give us the EPA...

 

[AlabamaPaul]

I'm assuming you approve of his liberal domestic agenda.

Never ASSume linc. Good evening...

 

[Linc]

Did you vote for him in '72. This was my first vote, for McGovern. Yet I still voted for real Repubs Ogilvie and Percy. Remember the Dem convention in '72 when the Daley machine lost their credentials?

Never ASSume linc. Good evening...

 

[AlabamaPaul]

Did you vote for him in '72. This was my first vote, for McGovern. Yet I still voted for real Repubs Ogilvie and Percy. Remember the Dem convention in '72 when the Daley machine lost their credentials?

No, voting in '72 was not high on my priority list at the time...

 

[Master PO]

Nixon was a Dick, no pun intended...

tricky dickey........:2razz:

 

[DiAnna]

The voters got what they wanted in 2008... an empty suit with absolutely no experience beyond running for office, getting elected, then immediately running for office again. I don't believe he ever actually finished his term in any position he was elected to. But he had a great smile, delivered a great speech, then immediately upon election did what every professional campaigner always does: Rewards his contributors and campaign staff with plum assignments whether they are qualified or not.

But hey, we couldn't let another Clinton get the nomination, certainly not Hillary!!! Who cares if she had more experience and global knowledge than anyone else in either primary. She's a Clinton, dammit... she's old and ugly (which only counts against females) and she didn't leave her cheating husband... so no way was she going to get the nomination.

Haha, I hope you democrats are happy. I wrote in Hillary's name rather than vote for an unqualified professional campaigner or Bush-lite and bubblebrain. You had a choice between substance and flash. You chose flash. Live with the results. By the time Obama is out of office, this country will have had 16 consecutive years under two of the worst presidents back-to-back in history. You have the extreme partisan hackery and subsequent divisiveness of the past two+ decades to thank. Or y'all can just look in the mirror and flip yourself off. Either works for me.

 

[KevinKohler]

When he bashed Kim Kardashian he lost my support. lol

Seriously, he is turning out to be quite a disappointment I'm sorry to say. I was hoping for more of those "teachable moments" and it's been almost five years now and all I've learned from him is

At least with Clinton, I learned something valuable.


Deny deny deny.

 

[Fiddytree]

How is Sen. Heitkamp doing medically?

Fine, as far as I know.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

She's a Clinton, dammit... she's old and ugly (which only counts against females)

Hey! Hey! Hey!

Kerry TOTALLY looked like Lurch from "Addams Family" and McCain was a dead-ringer for the "Phantom of the Opera."

 

[Moot]

At least with Clinton, I learned something valuable.


Deny deny deny.

Well, perhaps I was a bit harsh. But I am a bit disappointed in him. He seems so hesitant in almost everything he does that by the time he finally does act or respond it's almost too late, the damage has been done. Nixon was paranoid, but Obama's pragmatism just makes him seem timid....and more like Jimmy Carter.

 

[sangha]

I don't think that Obama is a disappointment

At least, not for those of us who recognized him for what he is from the very beginning.

 

[disneydude]

As a former democrat, I am disgusted with the democrats in general. I do not find Obama the most contemptible of them by any stretch of the imagination though. He is the epitome of the Peter Principle applied to politics, but that does not make him nearly as nefarious as others.

You...a "former democrat"....yeah....riiiiiiiiight! LOL...you are one of the most right-wing people on this board. Are you talking about you in a former life?

 

[Andalublue]

So you agree that Obama hasn't been progressive enough and hasn't been diligent in dismantling the conservative policies that built up under Bush's misrule?

Wait, you don't! You support more conservative policies a la Bush and Nixon. Oh for fun!

What makes you say that? You've been around here long enough, and have contributed to enough threads that I've been contributing to, to have seen that I'm no conservative. If I had to be labelled (I'm not keen on it) you'd probably have to call me an anarcho-communist.

I'm not criticising Obama for being too radical; that would justifiably make me a laughing stock. I'm criticising Obama for being a shill of the military-industrial complex, of being tyrannical towards his people and the people of those countries where the US military is operating. I'm criticising him for being in thrall to the darkest forces of the deep state and mistreating those people, appalled by the perversion of the ideas that are supposed to provide the foundation to the democratic, republican form of government, who speak out to demonstrate where this perversion is taking place. Understanding that there are no longer the checks and balances that would curb horrific abuses of power, whistle-blowers have no alternative but to speak out, yet Obama is happy to see them sacrificed, dismissed as traitors, by the same forces under his nominal command, that are perpetuating horrific abuse and destroying the West's entire moral and ethical legitimacy.

If you think that that is supporting conservative policies a la Bush and Nixon, then you are a bigger idiot than you would like to present yourself.

 

[Andalublue]

I came of age in the Nixon years and had first hand experience with his governing style and accomplishments - I believe the explosion of Watergate has clouded some people's view of Nixon but that will continue to change over time.

Watergate has nothing to do with it. Operation Menu has everything to do with it.

 

[CanadaJohn]

Although never introduced, Nixon was the first President to consider UHC for the US. He also managed to give us the EPA...

Either one is a good thing in the right hands.

 

[cpwill]

Although never introduced, Nixon was the first President to consider UHC for the US. He also managed to give us the EPA...

...you never heard of Teddy Roosevelt?

 

[Captain America]

I voted for him in '08 because there was no way in hell that I was going to vote for that charlatan McCain.

I held my nose when I cast my vote and didn't really expect much from a 1/2 term Senator with zero leadership experience.

Despite my low expectations President Obama had suceded in thoroughly disapointing me by about the half-way mark of his first term.

I voted against him in '12.

I expected him to continue to disapoint, and at least on that note I guess he hasn't disapointed me.

The man has gone from bad to worse to worse to worse to worse.

Would that be like from worse to worser to worse-er-er to worser-est?

 

[Gathomas88]

I agree with what you say, with the exception of your depiction of Nixon, who was possibly the worst President in over a century. He was also a war criminal.

Nixon arguably won the Cold War by pouncing on the opportunity to widen the political divide between China and the USSR.

He was actually a rather shrewd and forceful leader from an international perspective. It was his domestic policies and paranoia which were his ultimate downfall.

Obama can't even claim that much. He's petulant, paranoid, and ineffectual on both the domestic and international fronts.

The man's essentially a wannabe FDR channeling all of the worst aspects of Carter, Nixon, and Bush Jr.

 

[lolabird]

Nixon arguably won the Cold War by pouncing on the opportunity to widen the political divide between China and the USSR.

He was actually a rather shrewd and forceful leader from an international perspective. It was his domestic policies and paranoia which were his ultimate downfall.

Obama can't even claim that much. He's petulant, paranoid, and ineffectual on both the domestic and international fronts.

Why in the world would you call our President petulant? He exerts methodical thinking, exercised control, and gravitas.
What events, both domestic and international, has he proven to be ineffectual?

 

[Gathomas88]

Why in the world would you call our President petulant? He exerts methodical thinking, exercised control, and gravitas.

Lol!

If you say so. The man behaved like a petulant child during all of the presidential debates in '12, and basically threw a public temper tantrum after his ludicrous gun control measures got shot down earlier this year.

A generalized sense of "respect" is simply not something that our current president can easily command. He's honestly little more than an arrogant and overly idealistic dreamer, and it clearly shows in his policies and public demeanor.

What events, both domestic and international, has he proven to be ineffectual?

Ohhhh... Off the top of my head, gun control, Obamacare, Syria, Iran, North Korea, Snowden, Assange, etca.

Need I go on?

 

[Andalublue]

Nixon arguably won the Cold War by pouncing on the opportunity to widen the political divide between China and the USSR.

He was actually a rather shrewd and forceful leader from an international perspective. It was his domestic policies and paranoia which were his ultimate downfall.

Obama can't even claim that much. He's petulant, paranoid, and ineffectual on both the domestic and international fronts.

The man's essentially a wannabe FDR channeling all of the worst aspects of Carter, Nixon, and Bush Jr.

He conducted two secret, illegal wars targetting civilian populations in Laos and Cambodia. He was pretty much scum.

 

[VanceMack]

As a Libertarian...someone that has not voted for a dem or republican in over 10 years now, I can honestly say that i dont believe for a second that a single soul in this country voted for President Obama. 97% of the black community voted for Obama the black guy. They COULDNT have voted for Obama the guy that has been doing ANYTHING positive for the black community. Gay rights advocates voted for him because he became 'enlightened' (you know...he still believes homosexuality and gay marriage is wrong, but thinks the government shouldnt prevent gay marriage). Single issues voters voted for a cause. Partisans voted because they vote democrat. Lots of people voted because Romney made some extraordinarily stupid comments that drove voters away. But NO ONE voted because...say...that Obama guy...he's one hell of a president and leader. No one.

 

[Gathomas88]

He conducted two secret, illegal wars targetting civilian populations in Laos and Cambodia. He was pretty much scum.

By that logic, FDR, Truman, and even Lincoln were all "scum" as well.

They all waged wars which targeted civilians.

 

[Tucker Case]

There were quite a few of us who didn't like Obama for these kinds of reasons BEFORE he ever got elected (as in: we predicted he'd be a lot like Bush).

Sadly, the opposition to Obama took the form of absurd accusations like "He's a socialist!!111!!!". Oh well. It's funny to see people who defended this kind of stuff when Bush et al. did it attacking it now.

Kudos to those liberals who are "disappointed" in Obama, though. There are a lot of people who are defending him for continuing and expanding Bush's bad policies, when they attacked bush for them.