11 Things The Wealthiest 400 Americans Could Buy Their Country

[UtahBill]

The wealthy didn't win anything. Their wealth was created by the middle class and redistributed by the govt into their pockets.

Winning is a myth the rich tell themselves to soothe their troubled conscience

Charlie Sheen is the "poster child" for the self indulgent rich...

 

[TurtleDude]

Charlie Sheen is the "poster child" for the self indulgent rich...

that's rather stupid but who is your leader-the indolent middle class-those who think that the rich owe them more and more government and less and less taxes?

 

[sangha]

try again , this sort of silly one liners are wasting space

Nevertheless, your suspicion has been proven wrong. I suspect you'll never admit to it

 

[sangha]

that's rather stupid but who is your leader-the indolent middle class-those who think that the rich owe them more and more government and less and less taxes?

Hey! Aren't you the one who said

I mostly bash the politicians who pander to the poor so that these politicians themselves become rich

it is you who constantly makes unfounded slanderous attacks against a class of people

Suddenly, you're making unfounded slanderous attacks against a class of people. I thought you said you didn't do that.

And didn't you say

citing illegal or fraudulent claims as common among the wealthy is akin to me claiming most of the poor engage in thievery and welfare fraud

its a silly red herring.

 

[Catawba]

The administration? the Bush Tax cuts meant that those millionaires pay even more of the income tax than 90% of Americans pay together

The top one percent get an average $58,000 tax break per year, which is more than what 90% of the country make in a year! How about a little shared sacrifice there brother? :sun

 

[twenty]

Inequality? You better know it. I'm pissed that I wasn't born to be 6 foot 10 with the ability to hit a jumper with a hand in my face. What do you say we do to rectify that?

Nobody over 6 feet tall allowed in the NBA maybe?

Don't support the NBA, MLB, NFL. Besides advertisments, and televising them, what jobs do they create off the field? At least the movie/television industry has many,many more people behind the scenes. Do professional sports have as many people that work behind the scenes as the movie industry?

 

[TurtleDude]

Don't support the NBA, MLB, NFL. Besides advertisments, and televising them, what jobs do they create off the field? At least the movie/television industry has many,many more people behind the scenes. Do professional sports have as many people that work behind the scenes as the movie industry?

yeah tons

1) trainers

2) equipment makers

3) licensed product vendors

4) tons of television support personnel-camermen, studio types etc

5) an entire health care support system

6) groundskeepers

7) hotels and transportation (do you know how much money major league athletics spend on travel, hotel etc)

8) restaurants and caterers

9) the people selling beer and peanuts outside the stadiums

10) construction-stadiums cost 100's of millions and are constantly being replaced or renovated around the leagues.

11) sports magazines that cover professional sports. How many baseball, football, basketball, hockey, tennis and golf magazines are there covering professionals

12) advertising agencies-sports advertising is one of the most lucrative markets for that

 

[TurtleDude]

The top one percent get an average $58,000 tax break per year, which is more than what 90% of the country make in a year! How about a little shared sacrifice there brother? :sun

that is less than I pay in quarterly income tax payments. I pay over 300K in federal income taxes. what the hell do I get for that that you don't get? tax breaks mean I pay less taxes yet we in the top 1 percent pay 40% of the income taxes

WE HAVE THE GREATEST Discrepancy between our share of the income (22%) and our share of the taxes (39%) meaning a 17% gap which is not only far higher than any other group in the USA its also the highest in the first world

 

[TurtleDude]

Hey! Aren't you the one who said



Suddenly, you're making unfounded slanderous attacks against a class of people. I thought you said you didn't do that.

And didn't you say

I guess you couldn't read well enough to see that I didn't say that. I said it would be AKIN to saying

akin is not the same as saying it

learn to read

 

[twenty]

The top one percent get an average $58,000 tax break per year, which is more than what 90% of the country make in a year! How about a little shared sacrifice there brother? :sun

Also the bottom 95% get taxed for FICA (Social Security) on their entire income. It caps at 106K, any one that makes more than 106K a year only has to pay FICA on the
106K. So Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs all pay the same amount of social security as does someone that makes 150K. This really isn't a fight between the top %1 and the bottom 99%, it is a fight between 400 people and 330 million people.

 

[TurtleDude]

Also the bottom 95% get taxed for FICA (Social Security) on their entire income. It caps at 106K, any one that makes more than 106K a year only has to pay FICA on the
106K. So Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs all pay the same amount of social security as does someone that makes 150K. This really isn't a fight between the top %1 and the bottom 99%, it is a fight between 400 people and 330 million people.

do bill gates and Steve Jobs get any more benefits than someone who has an income of 106,000? bill gates pays the same for a license plate as a guy making 25K

guess what-they both get the same exact value

do you think Steve jobs should pay 40 bucks for a hunting license like everyone else or 40000 because that is the same percentage of his income as a say a union machinist does when he pays 40

 

[DemonMyst]

I don't know why people bother to have this conversation.. Conservatives are just handicapped when it comes to math.. They barely understand basic adding and subtracting.. Do you actually think they are going to understand percentages??

I mean look at the post above mine.. Totally pointless.. Yes.. We all pay the same for a gallon of milk.. So what?? The point is?? There is no point..

Do the rich pay the same percentage of their income in taxes as the poor or middle class?? No.. They do not.. There in lies the problem..

While conservatives want to bitch and moan about how the rich pay the most taxes.. Again irrelevent.. When you make the most money, you better pay the most taxes.. Simple math dictates that fact and that isn't even a percentage..

All I want is for the rich to be taxed at the same percentage of the rest of the nation..

It is totally pathetic that people complain about the poor?? Do you really think people live in poverty by choice?? If you do then you don't even have rocks for brains..

It was said over and over, in fact it is still said.. The tax cuts for the rich will create jobs.. Well?? Where the hell are the jobs?? We have had the tax cuts for almost 10 years.. Where are the jobs?? How many jobs have been out sourced?? How many jobs lost??

Conservatives love to talk about a redistribution of wealth.. Well.. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.. Is there a reason conservatives hate the poor?? Is there a reason conservatives love to kiss the butts of the rich?? Look if you all want to bend over and spread your cheeks for the banks, Oil Companies, and the rich.. Then fine go for it.. It is your butt!! Just don't take the rest of the nation with you..

 

[DashingAmerican]

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Because everybody deserves a new car? Because everybody deserves to have their irresponsibility rewarded by someone paying off their credit card debt? Because the entitlement attitude in America isn't severe enough? Because to some warped viewpoints, theft from people is deemed ok as long as it's for "the greater good."

 

[TurtleDude]

I don't know why people bother to have this conversation.. Conservatives are just handicapped when it comes to math.. They barely understand basic adding and subtracting.. Do you actually think they are going to understand percentages??

I mean look at the post above mine.. Totally pointless.. Yes.. We all pay the same for a gallon of milk.. So what?? The point is?? There is no point..

Do the rich pay the same percentage of their income in taxes as the poor or middle class?? No.. They do not.. There in lies the problem..

While conservatives want to bitch and moan about how the rich pay the most taxes.. Again irrelevent.. When you make the most money, you better pay the most taxes.. Simple math dictates that fact and that isn't even a percentage..

All I want is for the rich to be taxed at the same percentage of the rest of the nation..

It is totally pathetic that people complain about the poor?? Do you really think people live in poverty by choice?? If you do then you don't even have rocks for brains..

It was said over and over, in fact it is still said.. The tax cuts for the rich will create jobs.. Well?? Where the hell are the jobs?? We have had the tax cuts for almost 10 years.. Where are the jobs?? How many jobs have been out sourced?? How many jobs lost??

Conservatives love to talk about a redistribution of wealth.. Well.. The rich got richer and the poor got poorer.. Is there a reason conservatives hate the poor?? Is there a reason conservatives love to kiss the butts of the rich?? Look if you all want to bend over and spread your cheeks for the banks, Oil Companies, and the rich.. Then fine go for it.. It is your butt!! Just don't take the rest of the nation with you..

getting richer because you provide value or have services others want is not artificial

the government taking your wealth and giving it to others to buy their votes sucks

If only those who paid net taxes could vote do you think the dems would push for so much welfare socialism? OF COURSE NOT

 

[TheDemSocialist]

the government taking your wealth and giving it to others to buy their votes sucks

You do realize not all the money from taxes on the rich is redistributed to people.. A lot of that money pays lets say firefighters, police, you know "civil servants". Now if we had a higher tax rate on the richest of the rich then you know the gov wouldnt have to lay those people off and we could invest more in our industry or rail systems...

If only those who paid net taxes could vote do you think the dems would push for so much welfare socialism? OF COURSE NOT

No dem is pushing for socialism... But then again im responding to TurtleDude so everyone to the left of a republican is a socialist... :roll:

 

[TurtleDude]

You do realize not all the money from taxes on the rich is redistributed to people.. A lot of that money pays lets say firefighters, police, you know "civil servants". Now if we had a higher tax rate on the richest of the rich then you know the gov wouldnt have to lay those people off and we could invest more in our industry or rail systems...


No dem is pushing for socialism... But then again im responding to TurtleDude so everyone to the left of a republican is a socialist... :roll:

firefighters and police are mainly paid by property taxes and other state taxes.

half the federal workers are engaged in activities that congress was not properly charged with under the constitution.

 

[DemonMyst]

getting richer because you provide value or have services others want is not artificial

the government taking your wealth and giving it to others to buy their votes sucks

If only those who paid net taxes could vote do you think the dems would push for so much welfare socialism? OF COURSE NOT

And see this just shows how little you understand.. The government doesn't take wealth to buy votes.. The rich give wealth to politicians to buy votes.. Mostly to republicans because they are willing to sell their votes.. Sadly they have no honor to do their jobs in the interest of the american people.. They are a slave to anyone that helps them get elected and makes them rich.. It is all about wealth and power for republicans..

Why do you think republicans at almost a national level are attempting to prevent people from voting??

Again, you are just missing the issues..

The rich get richer because of tax cuts.. $320 billion a year goes a long way at making the top 10% a lot richer..

Daily Kos: New Hampshire Republicans hope to prevent students from voting

Why are Republicans enacting laws making it hard to vote? Aren't they taking away elderly early-voting and req? - Yahoo! Answers

 

[TurtleDude]

No dem is pushing for socialism? LOL, that is like saying none of the gun restrictionist groups are pushing for bans

 

[TurtleDude]

And see this just shows how little you understand.. The government doesn't take wealth to buy votes.. The rich give wealth to politicians to buy votes.. Mostly to republicans because they are willing to sell their votes.. Sadly they have no honor to do their jobs in the interest of the american people.. They are a slave to anyone that helps them get elected and makes them rich.. It is all about wealth and power for republicans..

Why do you think republicans at almost a national level are attempting to prevent people from voting??

Again, you are just missing the issues..

The rich get richer because of tax cuts.. $320 billion a year goes a long way at making the top 10% a lot richer..

Daily Kos: New Hampshire Republicans hope to prevent students from voting

Why are Republicans enacting laws making it hard to vote? Aren't they taking away elderly early-voting and req? - Yahoo! Answers

what silly psychobabble. The rich don't get richer because of tax cuts. the rich would be even richer if it wasn't for income taxes and especially the death taxes

that is like saying people have more property when criminals steal less.

the rich get richer because investing income makes income and the rich don't have to spend all their money on taxes and necessities

socialism is a disease. its a disease that causes people to not understand basic economic realities

 

[DemonMyst]

firefighters and police are mainly paid by property taxes and other state taxes.

half the federal workers are engaged in activities that congress was not properly charged with under the constitution.

The constitutionn doesn't say anything about assult rifles either.. Why do conservatives want them?? If we read the constitution like the bible, the most likely nothing would get done.. The arguement that it isn't in the constitution is just stupid!! Abortion isn't in the bible.. Global warming isn't in the bible?? Why is it that christians don't believe in global warming and are against abortion??

 

[DemonMyst]

what silly psychobabble.

I knew you wouldn't be able to respond to it.. It is always obvious when a conservatives gets in over their head..

 

[DashingAmerican]

The constitutionn doesn't say anything about assult rifles either.. Why do conservatives want them?? If we read the constitution like the bible, the most likely nothing would get done.. The arguement that it isn't in the constitution is just stupid!! Abortion isn't in the bible.. Global warming isn't in the bible?? Why is it that christians don't believe in global warming and are against abortion??

How very communist of you. The constitution is there as a guideline for what the government CAN DO. Dear God. I have no words for this type of ignorance.

 

[TurtleDude]

The constitutionn doesn't say anything about assult rifles either.. Why do conservatives want them?? If we read the constitution like the bible, the most likely nothing would get done.. The arguement that it isn't in the constitution is just stupid!! Abortion isn't in the bible.. Global warming isn't in the bible?? Why is it that christians don't believe in global warming and are against abortion??

gee that is silly, the constitution mentions ARMS and an assault rifle is a small arm

dismissed as a complete fail

I realize that the constitution as properly interpreted is a bulwark against the welfare socialist nonsense you crave. I want assault rifles so if people like you take over the government and abolish our constitutional rights people like me can overthrow it

 

[TurtleDude]

I knew you wouldn't be able to respond to it.. It is always obvious when a conservatives gets in over their head..

LOL, it was psychobabble and you have yet to post anything that is "over my head".

 

[U.S. Socialist.]

No dem is pushing for socialism? LOL, that is like saying none of the gun restrictionist groups are pushing for bans

Socialism is the workers control over the means of production. So no, no dem is pushing for that. Progressive taxation, social programs,stimulus spending, does not make socialism. Until you have workers control of the means of production you do not have socialism. That is the very definition of socialism, that is where it must begin and then you can spread out to other things, but you must have workers control first..