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11 Things The Wealthiest 400 Americans Could Buy Their Country

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U.S. Socialist. said:
Socialism is the workers control over the means of production. So no, no dem is pushing for that. Progressive taxation, social programs,stimulus spending, does not make socialism. Until you have workers control of the means of production you do not have socialism. That is the very definition of socialism, that is where it must begin and then you can spread out to other things, but you must have workers control first..
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those are all part of the socialist party's agenda
 
DemonMyst said:
The constitutionn doesn't say anything about assult rifles either.. Why do conservatives want them?? If we read the constitution like the bible, the most likely nothing would get done.. The arguement that it isn't in the constitution is just stupid!! Abortion isn't in the bible.. Global warming isn't in the bible?? Why is it that christians don't believe in global warming and are against abortion??
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Because only Christians don't believe in the scam of global warming and only Christians are against abortions. It is asinine statements like this that does nothing but damage your cause.
 
TurtleDude said:
No dem is pushing for socialism? LOL, that is like saying none of the gun restrictionist groups are pushing for bans
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Name one democrat that is pushing for socialism. One.... And explain how that idea is at all socialistic.
 
TurtleDude said:
that is less than I pay in quarterly income tax payments. I pay over 300K in federal income taxes. what the hell do I get for that that you don't get? tax breaks mean I pay less taxes yet we in the top 1 percent pay 40% of the income taxes

WE HAVE THE GREATEST Discrepancy between our share of the income (22%) and our share of the taxes (39%) meaning a 17% gap which is not only far higher than any other group in the USA its also the highest in the first world
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Now TD has graduated from obsessing on one set of stats about FITs to making up facts. ANd of course, he'll never post an substantiation for his wild claims
 
TurtleDude said:
I guess you couldn't read well enough to see that I didn't say that. I said it would be AKIN to saying

akin is not the same as saying it

learn to read
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No, you would never bash an entire class of people :roll:

TurtleDude said:
that's rather stupid but who is your leader-the indolent middle class-those who think that the rich owe them more and more government and less and less taxes?
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I'm sure you meant "indolent" in the most flattering of ways :roll:
 
TurtleDude said:
do bill gates and Steve Jobs get any more benefits than someone who has an income of 106,000? bill gates pays the same for a license plate as a guy making 25K

guess what-they both get the same exact value

do you think Steve jobs should pay 40 bucks for a hunting license like everyone else or 40000 because that is the same percentage of his income as a say a union machinist does when he pays 40
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Yes, Jobs has gotten much more from the govt than any middle class worker. And he doesn't pay as much in payroll taxes as the middle class in terms of % of income
 
DashingAmerican said:
Because everybody deserves a new car? Because everybody deserves to have their irresponsibility rewarded by someone paying off their credit card debt? Because the entitlement attitude in America isn't severe enough? Because to some warped viewpoints, theft from people is deemed ok as long as it's for "the greater good."
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No. No. No. No.

But that's a nice set of strawmen you've got there. No crows in your cornfield
 
TurtleDude said:
getting richer because you provide value or have services others want is not artificial

the government taking your wealth and giving it to others to buy their votes sucks

If only those who paid net taxes could vote do you think the dems would push for so much welfare socialism? OF COURSE NOT
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Getting richer because they're the beneficiary of a system that redistributes wealth from the middle class to the wealthy is artificial.

The rich taking the wealth of the middle class and buying politicians to keep the gravy train rolling sucks.

If only the rich paid their fair share, and didn't have the money to buy politicians through lobbyists, do you think the repubs would win any elections? OF COURSE NOT!!
 
TurtleDude said:
firefighters and police are mainly paid by property taxes and other state taxes.

half the federal workers are engaged in activities that congress was not properly charged with under the constitution.
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Firefighters, police and other public services receive money from the Fed govt. Once again, TD is posting myths and fictions.
 
TurtleDude said:
what silly psychobabble. The rich don't get richer because of tax cuts. the rich would be even richer if it wasn't for income taxes and especially the death taxes

that is like saying people have more property when criminals steal less.

the rich get richer because investing income makes income and the rich don't have to spend all their money on taxes and necessities

socialism is a disease. its a disease that causes people to not understand basic economic realities
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I see that TD has discovered a new word..."psychobabble". I wonder when he will get a new argument

The rich have gotten richer by massively redistributing wealth from the middle class, which created the wealth, into their greedy pockets. The rich would be even richer is they weaken our govt, which is the most powerful defense against the concentration of power represented by the wealthy

Unfettered Capitalism is a disease which requires regular doses of socialism in the form of govt bailouts, subsidies, prices supports, grants, etc. It's a disease that causes rightwingers to not understand basic economic realities
 
TurtleDude said:
gee that is silly, the constitution mentions ARMS and an assault rifle is a small arm

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Gee that is silly. The constitution mentions ARMS and nuclear weapons are ARMS

dismissed as a complete FAIL

I realize that the constitution as properly interpreted is a bulwark against the welfare socialist nonsense you crave. I want assault rifles so if people like you take over the government and abolish our constitutional rights people like me can overthrow it
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More nonsense. We have socialized roads, post office, patent protections, funding for the arts, all explicitely allowed for by the constitution.

Another complete fail. Dismissed
 
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