11 Things The Wealthiest 400 Americans Could Buy Their Country

[sangha]

True, there are trust fund idiots-often kids-who bash the rich because they think it makes them "cool" to do so. But there are many on this board who have whined about being undervalued by the market. In College the biggest marxist whiners were trust fund kids

One of the most vocal was a guy who walked around half shaven in a beret. He was originally from Iran. Turns out his family had a chalet in the swiss alps, he had gone to the most expensive boarding school in Europe and his uncle was the head of SAVAK-the Shah's secret police. Yet he whined about how unfair capitalism was and how America was too mean to the poor

That's a lot of whining about people who whine. It reminds me of all the rich people I know who whine about how their income taxes are ruining their lives while sunning themselves by their olympic sized pool.

 

[TurtleDude]

That's a lot of whining about people who whine. It reminds me of all the rich people I know who whine about how their income taxes are ruining their lives while sunning themselves by their olympic sized pool.

my arrows almost always hit the mark

 

[sangha]

your silly rants about redistribution to the rich get old. You seem to think those who "win" in the market are the recipients of redistribution. You clearly do not understand the term

The wealthy didn't win anything. Their wealth was created by the middle class and redistributed by the govt into their pockets.

Winning is a myth the rich tell themselves to soothe their troubled conscience

 

[TurtleDude]

The wealthy didn't win anything. Their wealth was created by the middle class and redistributed by the govt into their pockets.

Winning is a myth the rich tell themselves to soothe their troubled conscience

You keep saying that and you have no proof.

most of the rich are rich because they engage in behavior that others find highly valuable

 

[sangha]

You keep saying that and you have no proof.

most of the rich are rich because they engage in behavior that others find highly valuable

The wealth of this nation was created by the middle class, but it has ended up in the pockets of the rich by way of a tax system that redistributed that wealth upwards

 

[TurtleDude]

The wealth of this nation was created by the middle class, but it has ended up in the pockets of the rich by way of a tax system that redistributed that wealth upwards

that claim is beyond idiotic. the market system is what led the rich to become rich-that and their skills. if we had much lower taxes the rich would be rich. When we had higher taxes the rich were rich.

 

[Catawba]

the poor don't do much to make others rich. If you were rich you'd know that

Here I'll save you some posting, Most of your points seem to be listed here:

 

[TurtleDude]

cartoons seem to be about the best you can do rather than dealing with economic reality

you all whine a bunch about the rich but you never consider the alternatives

Your cartoons fail to understand that the rich are paying a huge share of the taxes and according to Obama they don't benefit from all the government spending

 

[sangha]

that claim is beyond idiotic. the market system is what led the rich to become rich-that and their skills. if we had much lower taxes the rich would be rich. When we had higher taxes the rich were rich.

Countrywide Pays $108 Million to Settle Mortgage Fraud Claims | Care2 Causes

 

[sangha]

Your cartoons fail to understand that the rich are paying a huge share of the taxes and according to Obama they don't benefit from all the government spending

The rich are not paying their fair share, so the middle class has to shoulder the burden. This has caused a massive redistribution of the wealth from the middle class to the wealthy

 

[TurtleDude]

Countrywide Pays $108 Million to Settle Mortgage Fraud Claims | Care2 Causes

citing illegal or fraudulent claims as common among the wealthy is akin to me claiming most of the poor engage in thievery and welfare fraud

its a silly red herring. How many of the top two percent can you honestly (repeat-and this is the tough one-HONESTLY) say have engaged in illegal activities

 

[TurtleDude]

The rich are not paying their fair share, so the middle class has to shoulder the burden. This has caused a massive redistribution of the wealth from the middle class to the wealthy

you keep yapping that line but you can never provide a rational argument that a group that pays the highest spread between their share of the income and their share of the income tax burden (of any major country) is not paying its fair share

 

[ender1]

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What a silly set of 11 things to do. If I had 1.37 trillion I would:

Throw the biggest pizza and beer party EVER!
Give everyone in the US a free Iphone. I own one of those flip phones like Captain Kirk.
Install Angry birds on every Iphone.
Outlaw Curling as a sport.
Geneticly alter asparagus so my pee does not smell funny.
Buy everyone in the US a Hybrid or electric car. Then buy the biggest SUV ever built so I am safe when I drive.
Find a way to make ColdStone Creamery icecream actaully burn caleries. Then.. . .
Declare every Friday "National Cold Stone Creamery" day and give everyone free icecream.
With anything that is left go to vegas and put it on RED!

 

[sangha]

citing illegal or fraudulent claims as common among the wealthy is akin to me claiming most of the poor engage in thievery and welfare fraud

its a silly red herring. How many of the top two percent can you honestly (repeat-and this is the tough one-HONESTLY) say have engaged in illegal activities

You have accused the poor and the middle class of engaging in thievery and other misdeeds.

Goldman Sachs' 'Fraud' Explained: How They Pulled Off The Alleged Scheme

 

[sangha]

you keep yapping that line but you can never provide a rational argument that a group that pays the highest spread between their share of the income and their share of the income tax burden (of any major country) is not paying its fair share

The rich and their rightwing supporters like to focus on FITs to the exclusion of every other tax and govt subsidy where they are at an advantage. Their focus hides the fact that the rich are not paying their fair share and are instead the beneficiaries of massive redistribution of wealth

 

[TurtleDude]

You have accused the poor and the middle class of engaging in thievery and other misdeeds.

Goldman Sachs' 'Fraud' Explained: How They Pulled Off The Alleged Scheme

where? you spend most of your time whining about the rich and lying such as trying to argue the rich don't deserve their wealth

I mostly bash the politicians who pander to the poor so that these politicians themselves become rich

it is you who constantly makes unfounded slanderous attacks against a class of people

 

[TurtleDude]

The rich and their rightwing supporters like to focus on FITs to the exclusion of every other tax and govt subsidy where they are at an advantage. Their focus hides the fact that the rich are not paying their fair share and are instead the beneficiaries of massive redistribution of wealth

I) you cannot accurately account for each state's tax rates which would require knowing who buys cigarettes, gasoline etc, property tax rates

2) It is the INCOME TAX RATE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL that Obama and the Dems constantly talk about

3) IT IS THE FIT that has the least relationship between what people pay and what they use

you constantly lie with claims that income REdistribution is why the rich are rich

what tax system would prevent the stuff you whine about?

 

[winston53660]

where? you spend most of your time whining about the rich and lying such as trying to argue the rich don't deserve their wealth

I mostly bash the politicians who pander to the poor so that these politicians themselves become rich

it is you who constantly makes unfounded slanderous attacks against a class of people

What politicians pander to the poor? Please be specific.

 

[TurtleDude]

What politicians pander to the poor? Please be specific.

when you hear someone saying the "rich don't pay their fair share" that is a dead giveaway

 

[winston53660]

when you hear someone saying the "rich don't pay their fair share" that is a dead giveaway

That is not specific. Nor does support your hypothesis of pandering to the poor.

 

[sangha]

where? you spend most of your time whining about the rich and lying such as trying to argue the rich don't deserve their wealth

I mostly bash the politicians who pander to the poor so that these politicians themselves become rich

it is you who constantly makes unfounded slanderous attacks against a class of people

I seem to remember a lot of talk about parasites and a lot of words like lazy, losers, etc

 

[sangha]

I) you cannot accurately account for each state's tax rates which would require knowing who buys cigarettes, gasoline etc, property tax rates

2) It is the INCOME TAX RATE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL that Obama and the Dems constantly talk about

3) IT IS THE FIT that has the least relationship between what people pay and what they use

you constantly lie with claims that income REdistribution is why the rich are rich

what tax system would prevent the stuff you whine about?

This is just a rationalization for focusing on the FITs to the exclusion of every other fact. That is meant to disguise the fact that the rich are not paying their fair share

 

[sangha]

when you hear someone saying the "rich don't pay their fair share" that is a dead giveaway

Which politician is saying that?

 

[TurtleDude]

That is not specific. Nor does support your hypothesis of pandering to the poor.

I couldn't care less if it doesn't meet your test. Its obvious to anyone who is not blinded by bias that when someone crows that the "rich don't pay their fair share" they are pandering to the poor

 

[TurtleDude]

Which politician is saying that?

Obama claimed to quote reagan the other night but he has said this dozens of times