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You know, I think this deserves it's own thread. It's important.

Because of your viewing of only certain news sources, some of you leftists may not be aware of this.

https://www.axios.com/steele-dossie...ost-6b762a0b-64a9-4259-8697-298e2f04fb3e.html

Lies, lies, and more lies. Anything, without any ethical responsibility, regardless of whether it's truth, to trash the evil Orange man. Did you think we wouldn’t call you on it?
You people started this with this insane scorched Earth propaganda push. The problem is most lies are eventually exposed, as were these.
Remember Yamamoto's (Google it) words, "I fear we have only awakened a sleeping giant" ? Now, in the arena of politics, we shall see who leaves the field of battle intact.
It’s time to set the record straight.
I don't blame you for believing the lies they told. I do blame them. The American public will too.

I can't disagree with any of this. Axios puts out some pretty decent opinion pieces and this one they nailed.
And now we are aware and have proof that Big Tech suppressed news, labeled and censored information they didn't want the public to know in order to push their own deceitful talking points instead.
 
They don't care about ethics. They deny until they get caught then they tell us they don't care. The laptop is a prime example. lol..

It's almost like they have split personalities. The two faces of Democrats and their little friends?

I think it was a culmination of media lies, false unknown sourcing, media tech interference, Covid, election fraud, and probably some other issues that are still unknown, The left was desperate and determined not to let Trump get a second term. They pulled out ALL stops!

Don't forget big Tech and their part in the big deception.... Scoundrels.

eta: sorry, I just reread where you did mention media tech interference.
 
Because of your viewing of only certain news sources, some of you leftists may not be aware of this.

https://www.axios.com/steele-dossie...ost-6b762a0b-64a9-4259-8697-298e2f04fb3e.html

Lies, lies, and more lies. Anything, without any ethical responsibility, regardless of whether it's truth, to trash the evil Orange man. Did you think we wouldn’t call you on it?
You people started this with this insane scorched Earth propaganda push. The problem is most lies are eventually exposed, as were these.
Remember Yamamoto's (Google it) words, "I fear we have only awakened a sleeping giant" ? Now, in the arena of politics, we shall see who leaves the field of battle intact.
It’s time to set the record straight.
I don't blame you for believing the lies they told. I do blame them. The American public will too.
Published months ago. Let's go grandpappy!

You'll note that there is quite a distance from "But since its publication, core aspects of the dossier have been exposed as unsupported and unproven rumors" and the dossier is false.
 
Which story do you mean? There were a lot of stories and they weren't planted. They happened. However, the Mueller report came out fairly quickly with the findings that there was no evidence of collusion with any Americans. Remember that?

But maybe you can understand the frustration of dealing with another political party that is spouting a bucket full of lies and convinced they're true?
There was only one story--that there was some form of coordination or cooperation between Russia and the Trump campaign. Like many bad liars, the media embellished.
 
There was only one story--that there was some form of coordination or cooperation between Russia and the Trump campaign. Like many bad liars, the media embellished.
There were many stories leading people to question if there might be collusion of some kind. The media reported them.
 
@Grandpappy confirmed it. Argue with him.
I love it. You are citing Grandpappy as an authority.

Yeah, fake facts. Echo chamber manufactured facts. blah blah
Manufactured facts. That's a good one and very descriptive of how politics is played these days.

There were many stories leading people to question if there might be collusion of some kind. The media reported them.
It's just embellishments of the same story.

The story that should have been pushed is that the FBI and DoJ were pursuing people they knew to be innocent. It's the great unspoken scandal of the Obama administration--corrupting the upper-level of law enforcement.
 
It's just embellishments of the same story.

The story that should have been pushed is that the FBI and DoJ were pursuing people they knew to be innocent. It's the great unspoken scandal of the Obama administration--corrupting the upper-level of law enforcement.
That is absolutely 100% not true. It is the great conspiracy theory of the Trump administration (until the election fraud one).
 
I love it. You are citing Grandpappy as an authority.
I love it...you're eager to point out something I said but not eager to address the OP who parroted it precisely. Scared?
 
That is absolutely 100% not true. It is the great conspiracy theory of the Trump administration (until the election fraud one).
Trump never colluded with Russia. It was all smoke and hearsay.
 
that same news site you post also says this against trump

"Before Donald Trump canceled his planned Jan. 6 press conference, several key allies — including hardline Fox News host Laura Ingraham and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) — made clear they thought it was a bad idea to invite the national media to Mar-a-Lago to mark the deadly riot.
Why it matters: Trump would have inevitably used his press conference Thursday to portray the rioters as political prisoners, whitewash their actions that day and lie about a "stolen election."

 
They may have even had close ties with Australia.
We'll never know!
🤦
But we do know, thanks to you, that Trump was arm-and-arm with Putin during the 2016 election. Thanks for confirming that.
 
Trump never colluded with Russia. It was all smoke and hearsay.

His campaign met with and shared information with Russian intel on numerous occasions. So if you wish to live in the fantasy land that it never happened...that is your business.
 
Trump never colluded with Russia. It was all smoke and hearsay.
That does NOT mean what you said in your last post. That is a conspiracy theory.
 
Has anyone mentioned commies?
 
What I'd like you to do is read this however many times it takes till the reality sets in. Forget CNN. Forget Anderson Cooper. Forget the loony liberals on Facebook, or whoever else you're getting the DNC propaganda from. Democrats and liberals typically have a real mental block on this point, to the point of delusion.

Mueller Report, Volume I, page 66, second paragraph:

[In particular,] the investigation examined whether these contacts involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the
Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination.

“While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges,”

Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities,”
The bolded parts literally disprove your claim of no evidence
 
The bolded parts literally disprove your claim of no evidence

One More Time....

"the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the "Russian government in its election interference activities,”

Pretty clear to me.

I haven't even started on the Durham investigation yet.
Quit now. You'll just dig a bigger hole.
 
That does NOT mean what you said in your last post. That is a conspiracy theory.
Trump never colluded with Russia. Pick whichever post gives you that most clearly.

Russia Collusion is the biggest conspiracy theory in history by a wide margin. It's all smoke, hearsay, and some outright lies but no substance.

The bolded parts literally disprove your claim of no evidence
In the official hardcopy version of the Mueller report, the law professor writing the preface uses the word exoneration with respect to any form of collusion.
 
The commie thing is getting a bad name. Calling stuff commie can be cute. When a gramps pays sales tax and grumbles about commies, that's endearing. I'm getting a little tired of "commie", itself, being sneered at. It's a perfectly good gag.

The problem starts when it's used to excuse racism and sexism and homophobia and other bigotries. That's when the commie thing goes sideways.

For example, from the OP:

the evil Orange man.

Why capitalize orange? Because the person is accustomed to capitalizing race, which is not something generally capitalized. We capitalize ethnic groups and nationalities but not race. Some people pretend white is an ethnic group and a nationality. They are called white nationalists. White nationalists capitalize race to pretend it is an ethnic group and nationality.

That's how we get "White people" and "Black people" in the middle of sentences. White nationalists want you to believe white is an ethnic group and nationality.
 
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One More Time....

"the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the "Russian government in its election interference activities,”

Pretty clear to me.

I haven't even started on the Durham investigation yet.
Quit now. You'll just dig a bigger hole.
That doesnt say there was no evidence, it sais there was not enough evidence to prove collusion
While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges
Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities
The above quotes makes it very clear there was evidence.
 
That doesnt say there was no evidence, it sais there was not enough evidence to prove collusion


The above quotes makes it very clear there was evidence.

Guilty till proven innocent. It's the American way!
 
Guilty till proven innocent. It's the American way!
More nonsense you claimed no evidence then provide quotes that make it clear there was evidence
Shot yourself in the foot there my anti American friend
 
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