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Why are liberal bashers the only ones making threads?

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Just curious.

To be honest, after Sanders lost, I'm just not that into making threads or defending liberalism (I'm a socialist, so it's not really like I'm a liberal, anyways, but I assume you mean defending Leftism in general). I certainly have no interest in creating threads to defend Hillary, usually because she's a rather indefensible character. She's contextually defensible, relative to Trump though. That being said, the number of Trump supporters are dropping every day --literally. I think that's making them feel the need to defend their Big Daddy even more.
 

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About 13 of the top 15 threads here are "Why do liberals ..." this or that ...


But you're probably right . I should have put it in OT. I misplaced my frustration and I apologize.

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Maybe because they aren't?
They aren't bashing liberals? Or the bashers aren't making threads?

I would disagree with both anyhow.

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To be honest, after Sanders lost, I'm just not that into making threads or defending liberalism (I'm a socialist, so it's not really like I'm a liberal, anyways, but I assume you mean defending Leftism in general). I certainly have no interest in creating threads to defend Hillary, usually because she's a rather indefensible character. She's contextually defensible, relative to Trump though. That being said, the number of Trump supporters are dropping every day --literally. I think that's making them feel the need to defend their Big Daddy even more.

Actually, the number of anti-Trump threads posted in this Forum is at least 5 times or more to ones either anti-Hillary or pro-Trump.
 

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They aren't bashing liberals? Or the bashers aren't making threads?

I would disagree with both anyhow.

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I would disagree with both. At least if you were to look objectively at the posts over say the last 6 months to a year.

I will say.. the absolutely terrible behavior of the liberals on this board have likely pushed a lot of conservatives and moderates off this forum and the only ones starting thread are the ones willing to bait the liberals.
 

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I would disagree with both. At least if you were to look objectively at the posts over say the last 6 months to a year.

I will say.. the absolutely terrible behavior of the liberals on this board have likely pushed a lot of conservatives and moderates off this forum and the only ones starting thread are the ones willing to bait the liberals.

They haven't pushed me off...

But I find I am responding to fewer and fewer threads, especially in the Political arena.
 

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Actually, the number of anti-Trump threads posted in this Forum is at least 5 times or more to ones either anti-Hillary or pro-Trump.

Not necessarily, I'd say the number of threads complaining about how the media treats trump are 10x more than all of those combined, or at least that's my subjective perspective.
 

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Not necessarily, I'd say the number of threads complaining about how the media treats trump are 10x more than all of those combined, or at least that's my subjective perspective.

I actually did a count in the Presidential sub-forum this morning before I left for work. In the first 60 recent threads there were 50 anti-Trump threads. Of the remaining 10, 5 were general issues with the election, and 5 were Trump supporting.
 

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They haven't pushed me off...

But I find I am responding to fewer and fewer threads, especially in the Political arena.

I assumed he as talking about the Government Spending and Debt forum.

I tend to avoid the political arena as well. I think its only going to get worse in there over the next few months.
 

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Why do you ask such a question in the Government Spending and Debt forum?

A fair question.....for a liberal. :mrgreen:
 

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Actually, the number of anti-Trump threads posted in this Forum is at least 5 times or more to ones either anti-Hillary or pro-Trump.

That may well be true, but I think that you'll admit, Trump is a lot more crazy and outlandish, and embarrassing the country, so does he not deserve more negative attention?
 

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To be honest, after Sanders lost, I'm just not that into making threads or defending liberalism (I'm a socialist, so it's not really like I'm a liberal, anyways, but I assume you mean defending Leftism in general). I certainly have no interest in creating threads to defend Hillary, usually because she's a rather indefensible character. She's contextually defensible, relative to Trump though. That being said, the number of Trump supporters are dropping every day --literally. I think that's making them feel the need to defend their Big Daddy even more.

The problem starts with your desire to be controlled, and to enslave others. Socialism is a horrible system.
 

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That may well be true, but I think that you'll admit, Trump is a lot more crazy and outlandish, and embarrassing the country, so does he not deserve more negative attention?

NO.

What I admit is that the powers that control the mass media are decidedly anti-Trump for their own political agendas, and presenting anything and everything he says in the very worst light possible light. That this encourages the group mentality to emulate them as well.

You remember how that worked back in grade school? The cool kids identified the lame, loser kids and those became the publicly accepted targets of condoned derision.
 

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NO.

What I admit is that the powers that control the mass media are decidedly anti-Trump for their own political agendas, and presenting anything and everything he says in the very worst light possible light. That this encourages the group mentality.

You remember how that worked back in grade school? The cool kids identified the lame, loser kids and those became the publicly accepted targets of condoned derision.

Yeah, I know what you're trying to say, but I disagree with the notion of a liberal agenda on behalf of the networks. Let's remember that conservatives have and are in increasing numbers abandoning Trump's Titanic. They certainly are not part of a,liberal agenda, and that's news. The convention was an unmitigated disaster for the Republicans and THAT was news.

What worked in US politics recently like old grade school tactics was the run-up for the Iraq war: everybody HAD to be a patriot. The news reported all that too.

I think you might want to revisit your thinking.
 

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Yeah, I know what you're trying to say, but I disagree with the notion of a liberal agenda on behalf of the networks. Let's remember that conservatives have and are in increasing numbers abandoning Trump's Titanic. They certainly are not part of a,liberal agenda, and that's news. The convention was an unmitigated disaster for the Republicans and THAT was news.

What worked in US politics recently like old grade school tactics was the run-up for the Iraq war: everybody HAD to be a patriot. The news reported all that too.

I think you might want to revisit your thinking.

Wait, where did you see me say "liberal agenda?"

Rupert Murdoch is nobody's progressive liberal. Neither are the Koch brothers, or any of the RINO's who have steadily condemned him even as their Party base supported him in increasing numbers. They don't want him anywhere near succeeding because he is not under their control.

THIS makes it seem all the more reasonable to believe that those on the other side of the aisle are being "fair and honest" about Trump in their attacks.

I've admitted he is not my first choice for President, so I won't go down that road here. I'm still going to vote for him because I know the anti-Trump hype is propaganda, that Hillary IMO is much, much worse and should not be President; and because there is really no other viable alternative to either with any chance of winning because the system is rigged to favor the Dems and Reps.
 

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To be honest, after Sanders lost, I'm just not that into making threads or defending liberalism (I'm a socialist, so it's not really like I'm a liberal, anyways, but I assume you mean defending Leftism in general). I certainly have no interest in creating threads to defend Hillary, usually because she's a rather indefensible character. She's contextually defensible, relative to Trump though. That being said, the number of Trump supporters are dropping every day --literally. I think that's making them feel the need to defend their Big Daddy even more.



Why one Earth would you subscribe to such a inherently totalitarian ideology ?

You seem intelligent, educated and level headed so what exactly is the appeal ?
 

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Just curious.
Well, seeing as this is a debate forum and all - my comment will be thus:

"You haven't presented any evidence of your claim"

Maybe because they aren't?
Maybe, maybe not!

Seems to be conjecture, unless someone does a little work and gives us some numbers ...

(not me - not my thing!)
 

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Wait, where did you see me say "liberal agenda?"

Rupert Murdoch is nobody's progressive liberal. Neither are the Koch brothers, or any of the RINO's who have steadily condemned him even as their Party base supported him in increasing numbers. They don't want him anywhere near succeeding because he is not under their control.

THIS makes it seem all the more reasonable to believe that those on the other side of the aisle are being "fair and honest" about Trump in their attacks.

I've admitted he is not my first choice for President, so I won't go down that road here. I'm still going to vote for him because I know the anti-Trump hype is propaganda, that Hillary IMO is much, much worse and should not be President; and because there is really no other viable alternative to either with any chance of winning because the system is rigged to favor the Dems and Reps.

The "liberal media" is people seem to talk about these days, so If I misinterpreted your meaning I apologize. I was not referring to Fox, I was referring to the network media. I don't think they're after Trump as much as Trump is after failing. The media is not making up the outlandish things he says and does, they're just reporting it. Therefore I suggested that you might wish to revisit your thinking based on Trump's own behavior and the world wide backlash that's occurring as a result. I don't think that there's any kind of media conspiracy going on at all, rather I think that Trump has set his own house a'fire. I can see however that your mind is made up about him, and I find that a little surprising; but it's your choice.
 

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because they're the crazy ones, and because without sanders, liberals have far less to discuss. We basically dislike both candidates equally
 

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The problem starts with your desire to be controlled, and to enslave others. Socialism is a horrible system.

Socialism, as a whole, is too general to make that claim of, some socialism seeks to control, but this is not true of all socialism.
 
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