All teachers should not be armed due to securing the gun. If all teachers have a gun how will the gun be secured? Will it be on the teacher or locked in their desk. Either way there is a chance of theft or misplacement.
Let's say a school has 100 teachers and they all carry a gun. If one goes missing or is stolen now the school must go into lock down in order to find the gun. Most teacher will tell you they have had something stolen from a locked compartment at school.
I do believe a gun should be assessable at schools. The details are to long for this post. But in a nutshell, keeping the gun or guns in a secure lock box at different locations around the school with properly trained personnel to use them.
All teachers should not be armed due to securing the gun. If all teachers have a gun how will the gun be secured? Will it be on the teacher or locked in their desk. Either way there is a chance of theft or misplacement.
Let's say a school has 100 teachers and they all carry a gun. If one goes missing or is stolen now the school must go into lock down in order to find the gun. Most teacher will tell you they have had something stolen from a locked compartment at school.
I do believe a gun should be assessable at schools. The details are to long for this post. But in a nutshell, keeping the gun or guns in a secure lock box at different locations around the school with properly trained personnel to use them.
I know of teachers that carry concealed legally in schools right now. You would never know who they were. Neither would anyone else, unless there were an incident involving a school shooting.
I agree. But there is an extensive cost to having security. But if parents are willing to fit the bill, it would be better.
There have been some school districts that have allowed their teachers to be armed.
Um, on their person concealed. In a retention style holster under a garment.All teachers should not be armed due to securing the gun. If all teachers have a gun how will the gun be secured? Will it be on the teacher or locked in their desk. Either way there is a chance of theft or misplacement.
Let's say a school has 100 teachers and they all carry a gun. If one goes missing or is stolen now the school must go into lock down in order to find the gun. Most teacher will tell you they have had something stolen from a locked compartment at school.
I do believe a gun should be assessable at schools. The details are to long for this post. But in a nutshell, keeping the gun or guns in a secure lock box at different locations around the school with properly trained personnel to use them.
I agree. But there is an extensive cost to having security. But if parents are willing to fit the bill, it would be better.
There have been some school districts that have allowed their teachers to be armed.
Again..unless it is needed, no one will EVER know they are armed.If they work in a high school they will eventually become a target. Not necessarily a victim but a target for theft. To a high student it would be bragging rights to be the first to lift a gun of a teacher. They will brag all the way down to jail but they will brag non the less.
What is this all-or-nothing approach you invented? Nobody has called for all teachers having guns. They've called that SOME teachers can choose to have guns.
So, the new spin to the old talking point is to claim being a conservative now I guess. This thread is a rehash of the same emotional and irrational talking point that came about way before Sandy Hook. All this talking point is meant to do is act like a CYA tool for people who disarm adults in school zones. Lots of "what ifs" like;
- What if the gun is stolen. Probably not going to happen, proper concealment is part of the requirement to license in the first place, try again.
- What if someone targets the teacher? Not gonna happen, one would have to know that person is carrying, not likely.
- What if the teacher.............blah, blah, blah? Let's put it this way, the more "what ifs" you have to add, the weaker your case is.
And now, I regret spending this much time on yet another repetitive and vapid talking point meant to oversimplify the situation.
Negative. Every single thing you've brought up has already been said. "What ifs" are nothing more than a bunch of empty hypotheticals, they are nothing more than an additional negative introduced in the face of a losing argument. Cell phones are much easier to steal BTW than a properly holstered firearm.Leadership has to ask the what if question and make the best decision off the most likely events. All the counter arguments you gave are not valid because the secret would get out. Cell phone have been stolen off teachers that held them on their person.
Not arguing against not have guns on campus. Arguing for the process in which they are handled. Having security or having guns in designated areas of the school can be secured better than having every teacher handling a firearm differently.
I expect great things with this being located in the gun control section rather than the education section. The responses you'll get will be very different here. There is the propensity to argue for the carrying of firearms in every occasion, regardless of appropriateness.
Not sure what you are advocating or opposed to. I dont know of anyone that is suggesting every teacher or even most should be armed.Then why wear seat belt. Or have insurance. It's for the what if. Like I said not against guns on campus. Having all teachers armed would cause more problems than would be necessary. And cops have had guns taken off of them. Breaking up a fight would cause the gun to become unsecured. And if rules were a complete deterrent having sex with students would not be an issue. Listen to what I'm saying: Guns on campus ok. Everyone armed not such a good idea. I can go into greater depth to explain.
All teachers should not be armed due to securing the gun. If all teachers have a gun how will the gun be secured? Will it be on the teacher or locked in their desk. Either way there is a chance of theft or misplacement.
Let's say a school has 100 teachers and they all carry a gun. If one goes missing or is stolen now the school must go into lock down in order to find the gun. Most teacher will tell you they have had something stolen from a locked compartment at school.
I do believe a gun should be assessable at schools. The details are to long for this post. But in a nutshell, keeping the gun or guns in a secure lock box at different locations around the school with properly trained personnel to use them.
I think random teachers should have a concealed gun on themselves. School personnel dress code should be in such a way that no student can tell who is or isn't armed,maybe even randomize which teachers will be armed on what days. This way some sicko can't make plans on which classrooms to hit or make plans for when armed teachers are off campus or on the other side of campus or who to jump for a firearm. Students should assume that all teachers and other school personnel are armed.
I thought about the lock box idea and came to the conclusion it wouldn't be a good idea. Because locks can be defeated or they can be jammed.
I don't think the expectation is that a teacher will be flailing the gun about in the middle of class. I'd imagine that if teachers are allowed to carry, it would be with concealment and any unnecessary discussion and/or brandishing of the firearm would be grounds for dismissal. Is it still inappropriate in that case?
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