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I had it three times, all after vaccination. I was lucky: I became eligible to be one of the first people in my county to get vaccinated because I was a volunteer at my local health department giving the vaccines to people.Oh, don't encourage them. That's more than enough.
I had it in February '20 too. Glad to hear you recovered. Man, that was a freaking hum dinger. I got it again later and it was nothing compared to that first time.
I almost ****ing DIED first time I caught it.
It was February 2020, no clear knowledge at the hospital of what I even HAD.
No tests, no masks, no nothing. They gave me some asthma puffers and sent me home.
Blood oxygen in the low 70's for three weeks, maybe six hours of sleep in four week's time.
I COULD NOT CATCH MY BREATH.
There's no "they." There's a balance in nature, and we are testing the limits of it, with both overpopulation and environmental impact. You're making that typical hypocritical argument that liberals make. You want to think you can control every outcome through collective force without addressing the actual cause. The cause of the pandemic was manmade, as was its spread. But due to nature's harsh proclivity to capitalize on weakness and strength, it mutated and will again. Vaccines are ineffective. If you want to politicize it, fine, but your position is essentially irrelevantClaiming "they" want to do population control with a virus that governments immediately worked to put under control and eradicate is pretty dumb.
There is grass outside.
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There's no "they." There's a balance in nature, and we are testing the limits of it, with both overpopulation and environmental impact. You're making that typical hypocritical argument that liberals make. You want to think you can control every outcome through collective force without addressing the actual cause. The cause of the pandemic was manmade, as was its spread. But due to nature's harsh proclivity to capitalize on weakness and strength, it mutated and will again. Vaccines are ineffective. If you want to politicize it, fine, but your position is essentially irrelevant
Vaccines mess with you immune system and there's risks associated with vaccines. I'd rather get covid and build up natural immunity that will carry me throughout my life.
There's no "they." There's a balance in nature, and we are testing the limits of it, with both overpopulation and environmental impact. You're making that typical hypocritical argument that liberals make. You want to think you can control every outcome through collective force without addressing the actual cause. The cause of the pandemic was manmade, as was its spread. But due to nature's harsh proclivity to capitalize on weakness and strength, it mutated and will again. Vaccines are ineffective. If you want to politicize it, fine, but your position is essentially irrelevant
You should do the same and see if your results are any different than mine. I'm not an "antivaxxer" at all. I just recognize that we are unlikely to keep up with it. I also think vaccinations are a personal choice not something to be forced, which is what the Stalinists tried to doGo lick some doorknobs on video in a COVID ward and then we will take your claims of ineffectiveness seriously.
Sorry antivaxxer.
Commercial Cars, Race Car, and Jet fighter all have different needs in the design.Citations? That's BS. Look at seat belts...are they the same strength and quality as in a jet fighter? No...but if they were, they'd save more lives.
So you've made no point unless you can support it.
How do you know? What was wrong with "new products" and if the govt "didnt try to stop the professionals" from pointing out the issues...how do you know about them? Sources?
Commercial Cars, Race Car, and Jet fighter all have different needs in the design.
A Seat Belt History Timeline
Looking at the seat belt history timeline shows that they weren't always widely accepted. Now, seat belts save thousands of lives each year.magazine.northeast.aaa.com
I can't recall the poster, I want to say someone of position, claimed an 'unbiased' study was going to get to the bottom of all this vax is bad crapola. I can't recall if the report was ever presented in here. I suspect that is due to it either being all sound and fury or the results didn't fit the 'unbiased' authors.In an effort to put this matter to rest, I though a simple poll on which was more dangerous would be a good way to spurr discussion. What say ye, good folks DP? Are the covid vaccines more dangerous than covid? Is covid more dangerous than the covid vaccines? Please bring your sources.![]()
Early variants were different. The vaccines made a significant dent in transmission. That is why epidemiologists recommended that people either get vaccinated or stay home. No one-not a single person-was held down and forced to get vaccinated. When you have a deadly disease, especially one spread by aerosol, isolation of potentially infectious persons is a rational health measure. It was the right thing to do at the time.You should do the same and see if your results are any different than mine. I'm not an "antivaxxer" at all. I just recognize that we are unlikely to keep up with it. I also think vaccinations are a personal choice not something to be forced, which is what the Stalinists tried to do
this guy has been doing a whole series of covid related data based videos since the beginning fwiw
That's why he puts the data right in front of you with links to see for yourselfAnd has been misrepresenting the actual facts from the about 6 months to a year into the pandemic too.
And has been called out for misrepresenting what it says or for using faulty data. Including by the authors of some of the papers he's presented. Just because someone puts up data, doesn't mean the data is real, related, or what is being claimed it means.That's why he puts the data right in front of you with links to see for yourself
I agree with you. The people who refused to follow the lockdown and quarantine mandates were the most dangerous to the public. Had they followed the guidelines, President Trump may have been right about the virus disappearing.
If what you write is true (and I don't want to waste any time confirming it) then us normal people understand the reason for it: NY is much more densely populated than Texas. Therefore its much easier for the virus to spread from person to person.leftoids in new york developed Stockholm Syndrome. They willingly allowed themselves to be forced to stay at home, leave home only with their papers, and have their jobs taken away from them, and they were thanking their captors for it.
"All glory to our government, out great savior. Can we please just have a tiny check every now and then for our compliance?"
Texas reopened in May 2020 because Texans weren't going to put up with lockdown anymore, and we had fewer deaths per capita than new york.
If what you write is true (and I don't want to waste any time confirming it) then us normal people understand the reason for it: NY is much more densely populated than Texas. Therefore its much easier for the virus to spread from person to person.
Duh
"There really wasn't a strong relationship in either direction between population density and death rates, and there has also been literature published saying as much. "So Texans our out living their lives and dying at lower rates than masked, double vaxxed individuals stuck at home only permitted to leave with their vaccine card on display, and you think it's population density.
There really wasn't a strong relationship in either direction between population density and death rates, and there has also been literature published saying as much. new york just shit the bed. I mean who puts the most vulnurable(seniors) in facilities with infected? oh wait, a new york democrat.
"There really wasn't a strong relationship in either direction between population density and death rates, and there has also been literature published saying as much. "
Produce that literature or admit you made it up.
When hospitals get overrrun death rates go up. For example, if Texas had 10 covid cases and their hospital had the capacity to handle 20 cases the results would be better than NYC, for example, where there may have been 100 covid cases and hospitals having the capacity to handle 50. Try to use your head.
I took just a moment to confirm your statement that Texas had a lower death rate than NY. Guess what! You lied! What a suprise....NOT. NY had a lower death rate than Texas, 41.4 v 49. Plus those who died had to live in a shit hole called Texas.
I guess NY handled Covid very well compared to the MAGAT infested shit hole. In fact, looking at the list I provided you the worst states at handling covid were the red states, probably because they were full of covidiots who refused to get vaccinated once vaccines were available, refused to wear masks, and who refused to close down when it was appropriate.