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What is the Point of School?

windowdressing said:
You're being sarcastic, aren't you?

Relax, I was being sarcastic ... hey, wait! you missed my sarcasm?
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Nope. You posted two posts in a row that were decidedly NOT sarcastic...

Sorry... I am a verified expert at sarcasm.
 
Torrent said:
What is the point of school?
I'm looking the reason we send "children" to schools at all.
Is it to give a basic understanding of life and the world around us?
Social indoctranation?
Prepare the child for work in the 'Real World'?
Just giving usefull information?
Or just a goverment babysitter?
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All of the above. It's quite possible that none of those reasons alone justifies the cost of school, but all of them together definitely do.

And the follow up question.
Is the way we are doing it now working?
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Pretty much.

Aren't we among the top 25 best educated countries that are also ranked in the top 25 for quality of life? Can you name any of those top 25 countries that have a educational system that is significantly different than ours and at the same time significantly better?
 
WCH said:
Apparently a place where you're taught to accept the homosexual lifestyle, big government and man-made global warming without question.
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I'm a product of that place, and yet I don't accept any of that. Nor was I ever indoctrinated in any class with any of that nonsense.
 
WCH said:
I'm not against education just indoctrination. Especially when it's nothing but Leftist political correctness being taught.
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Where is that taught at? None of the schools I ever attended did that.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Then why make algebra and more advanced math, required.
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Apparently, the school you went to didn't stress reading comprehension much. He answer your questions as clearly as possible.
 
Captain Adverse said:
That's very true. I found that to be the case in some instances. There were various work-arounds, but when those parents came to school to try to lay blame I was ready with the "mirror of reflection." I'd simply point out the contract, the syllabus, my contacts with them, etc., and asked them what more they expected me to do? :confused: LOL
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All that you said about your policy, thats a management thing, and the EXACT type of thing that should be taught to every teacher. I imagine that you figured that stuff out in your military career, but unless it is directly taught to a young inexperienced teacher (like fresh out of college), I seriously doubt that they would come up with something like that on their own.

Great job by the way, you deserve a lot more than a pat on the back for being a great teacher.
 
imagep said:
All that you said about your policy, thats a management thing, and the EXACT type of thing that should be taught to every teacher. I imagine that you figured that stuff out in your military career, but unless it is directly taught to a young inexperienced teacher (like fresh out of college), I seriously doubt that they would come up with something like that on their own.

Great job by the way, you deserve a lot more than a pat on the back for being a great teacher.
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I WAS a teacher, not anymore and not for a long time. My problems back then were with the administration, who hated to deal with whining parents. Who kept reacting to, rather than managing situations where some parents complained about school "not doing it's job," even when it was clear the teachers were going above and beyond to help their kids. It's hard to keep working at a job where you can never count on the backing of your superiors. :shrug:
 
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WCH said:
How old are you?
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Plenty old enough, and getting older every day. But if you are implying that schools have changed, it must have been in the last two years since my kid graduated from high school, as his grade school experience was very much like mine.
 
Josie said:
The problem in schools today starts with the home.
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in fact the problem in every field of the life starts with the home

that's why the education should be the basis of the improvement of a society
 
indoctrination and assimilation...
 
Bodhisattva said:
About your two posts that were not sarcastic... I am a verified expert at srcasm. That one is a fact.
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well, glad to have that settled ... now I can move on with the rest of my life ...
 
APACHERAT said:
Torrent said:
What is the point of school?
I'm looking the reason we send "children" to schools at all.
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Here in California, most schools are just used as day care centers.
I think the libs are on to something.
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You speak for California? As a teacher that taught all over California (and as a parent) I can tell you confidently that you are totally wrong.
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To train future workers while reducing the current labor force. Together, it stabilizes unemployment.

As a science/mathematics minded person, I'd also like to think it helps inspire children to learn about the universe and the laws that govern it. My school days lead to a good amount of spiritual nurturing and philosophical thinking (just don't do it during a test).
 
Psychological conditioning children to be subservient to AUTHORITY is a primary purpose.

But almost no one admits that.

Controlling the distribution of knowledge rather than education.

If the objective was education then a National Recommended Reading List would have made sense decades ago.

But now we have the problem of what to do with computers so companies can make money off them and education without sabotaging or admitting the REAL Purposes of what we claim is education.

Thinking as a Science (1916) by Henry Hazlitt
Henry Hazlitt - Thinking as a Science
LibriVox

The Tyranny of Words (1938) by Stuart Chase
Anxiety Culture: Tyranny of Words - excerpt
http://archive.org/details/tyrannyofwords00chas
"The Tyranny of Words" - YouTube

The Screwing of the Average Man (1974) by David Hapgood
The screwing of the average man: David Hapgood: Amazon.com: Books

psik
 
WCH said:
Apparently a place where you're taught to accept the homosexual lifestyle, big government and man-made global warming without question.
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Well, since none of that is taught in school I am sure you would be surprised to know that you are wrong...
 
CRUE CAB said:
Then maybe she can tell us what is wrong with schools today.
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She, I and other teachers have repeatedly stated what is wrong with education and most people don't want to hear it... they turn it around and blame teachers instead.
 
Education is shifting away from content based learning and towards skills based learning. What is relevant is teaching skills that fall under catagories like thinking, participating, contributing, managing self, relating to others, etc. These skills transcend professions. Working independently or collaboratively... managing yourself... These can be taught in any subject but lend themselves the most favorably to English, history and geography.
 
Bodhisattva said:
She, I and other teachers have repeatedly stated what is wrong with education and most people don't want to hear it... they turn it around and blame teachers instead.
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That's why I quit teaching. everything is always the teacher's fault. I had a quote I always used, "If you give a world class Chef a turd, no matter what he does with it, the result is going to taste like ****"
 
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