What is a "right-wing extremist"?

[RightinNYC]

Congress refers to both the house and the senate....

The Republicans took the Senate in 1980 and it was the Republican Senate that wrote the first tax cut bill (Kemp-Roth Act) in 1981 and rescinded it in 1982 to raise the payroll taxes. It was in the first link I showed you.

Here's a link to the election of 1980....
United States Senate elections, 1980 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Yes, I am aware that there are two houses of Congress. In order for a bill to become a law, it has to be enacted word for word by both houses. If the Democrats controlled the House by 70 seats, you cannot say that a "Republican Congress" passed the bill. That is a lie.

Moreover, even if you could say that, you're still linking to a tax hike as evidence for the argument that said "Republican Congress" caused a huge deficit.

 

[Moot]

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Yes, I am aware that there are two houses of Congress. In order for a bill to become a law, it has to be enacted word for word by both houses. If the Democrats controlled the House by 70 seats, you cannot say that a "Republican Congress" passed the bill. That is a lie.

Moreover, even if you could say that, you're still linking to a tax hike as evidence for the argument that said "Republican Congress" caused a huge deficit.

Stop calling me a liar and do your own damn homework. All I can do is you show the facts, but I can't make you think. You have to do that yourself.

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

"I dont know, I heard somewhere obama has received more death threats than any other president. Probably little things like that make them say those things." - SE102

And these were all conservatives / traditionalists and not just nut-jobs?

Exactly.

"We would like to thank you for taking the time to call in your death threat today. In order to better serve you, I need some valuable information first. Press 1 for English, 2 for something else. We like to track political trends so please press the corresponding buttons to reflect how you would most accurately describe your political leaning: Press 1 for Democrat, 2 for Republican, 3 for left wing nutjob, 4 for right wing nut job, 5 for undecided, 6 for some third party that we aren't gooing to count anyway - therefore this press will be a waste of your time, press 7 if you are a child and your parents are both crack heads and don't pay attention to you, 8 if you think you dialed the wrong number and are now trying to figure out if the FBI or CIA is line tapping this call and finally - 9 if you're just bug-**** crazy and want to shoot something."

 

[rcart76]

I keep seeing comments in the media, on this board and elsewhere throwing around the label “right-wing extremist”. While I understand the need for some to marginalize a viewpoint instead of debating it, I am left wondering what people must think a “right-wing extremist” is.

I consider myself to be a “traditionalist” and am:

1. Pro-life,
2. Pro 2nd Amendment,
3. for a small government,
4. for a reduction in taxes,
5. for traditional marriage (but support a change in laws for equitable tax rates, etc.),
6. opposed to government interference in health care,
7. for minimal government regulation of business,
8. strict enforcement of immigration laws (including border protection),
9. for Gitmo,
10. opposed to granting terrorist the same Constitutional rights as legitimate Americans,
11. Pro death penalty,
12. for strict interpretation of the Constitution.

This is just a quick-list off the top of my head but hopefully you’ll get the idea.

Is this what you consider a “right-wing” extremist”?

This is a funny contradiction the right has. You are for pro life but are for Pro death penalty...Really????

Also, you cry about Government messing with your rights yet you want government to tell you what to do with your body?????? I don't get it ????

Number 12 is another one. The right say they value the constitution yet many of want to change it to fit your purpose?????


Talk about having your cake and eating it to...

 

[Barbbtx]

This is a funny contradiction the right has. You are for pro life but are for Pro death penalty...Really????

The difference is one is an innocent life, the other guilty of a heinous crime.

 

[rcart76]

The difference is one is an innocent life, the other guilty of a heinous crime.

I have a problem with the death penalty as a Christian Liberal because there have been so many mistakes in the system. Seeing that you are from Texas, you know exactly what I am talking about. Texas is so quick to Kill, even if there is some evidence that the defendent is innocent.

 

[hazlnut]

The difference is one is an innocent life, the other guilty of a heinous crime.

Only in late-term abortions is it a 'life'. Often deformed or having server birth defects.

 

[The Baron]

“This is a funny contradiction the right has. You are for pro life but are for Pro death penalty...Really????” - rcart76

“The difference is one is an innocent life, the other guilty of a heinous crime.” - Barbtx

Exactly! Thank you.

“Also, you cry about Government messing with your rights yet you want government to tell you what to do with your body?????? I don't get it ????” - rcart76

What about the baby’s body?

“Number 12 is another one. The right say they value the constitution yet many of want to change it to fit your purpose?????” - rcart76

And how do I want to change it and to suit what purpose?

 

[Josie]

This is a funny contradiction the right has. You are for pro life but are for Pro death penalty...Really????

Do you really fail to see the difference between killing an innocent child and killing a guilty man?

Also, you cry about Government messing with your rights yet you want government to tell you what to do with your body?????? I don't get it ????

When you're pregnant, you have another body inside of you. You can do whatever you want to YOUR body, but you shouldn't harm someone else's body.

Number 12 is another one. The right say they value the constitution yet many of want to change it to fit your purpose?????

Our Founders were smart enough to allow amendments to the Constitution.


I find your ????????????????s to be very annoying.

 

[Moot]

Do you really fail to see the difference between killing an innocent child and killing a guilty man?



When you're pregnant, you have another body inside of you. You can do whatever you want to YOUR body, but you shouldn't harm someone else's body.



Our Founders were smart enough to allow amendments to the Constitution.


I find your ????????????????s to be very annoying.

That's pretty extreme to compare a multicellular diploid eukaryote to a living breathing child.

 

[Josie]

That's pretty extreme to compare a multicellular diploid eukaryote to a living breathing child.

:roll:

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[anonymous]

In my opinion, a right-wing extremist is someone who
1. holds opinions are fueled by hate, whether it be against race, religion, or economic or social class
2. uses fear and paranoia as a political tool
3. wants to make america a theocracy by making Christian beliefs into law
4. exploits the patriotism of others
5. compares anyone they don't like to Hitler, and using the word "liberal" to describe anyone who disagrees with them
6. shuns and even opposes intellect and education

 

[Technocratic]

Do you really fail to see the difference between killing an innocent child and killing a guilty man?

There is one, unless you adhere to the doctrine of the sanctity of life and inalienable rights to life, as most Libertarians do. You cannot simultaneously hold the former and the latter views.

 

[hazlnut]

I finally found the perfect answer to the OP.

What is a right-wing extremist?

 

[RightinNYC]

I finally found the perfect answer to the OP.

What is a right-wing extremist?

photoshop is a right wing extremist? that actually explains a lot.

 

[obvious Child]

what is funny is that the GOP of today is really not any different than the Reagan era but the libs today are far far more leftwing than the days of Jim Wright or even Bill Clinton. I hear this crap that the GOP is far more rightwing yet on what issues compared to Reagan?

Really.

So the GOP of today would be okay with another earned income tax credit? Oh wait. protested the earned income tax credit under Obama.
So the GOP of today would be for emissions trading, pinoneered under Reagan which is cap and trade? Oh wait. They are calling Cap and Trade "evil."
So the GOP of today would be for Obama's weapons control as Reagan pushed hard for? Oh wait. They called his entire idea on that "awful."
So the GOP of today would be for raising taxes to save Social Security as Reagan did? Oh wait. Their dirty open secret is to privatize it.

I'll give you one thing the GOP of today is similar to of the GOP of Reagan. Military force as applied Jominian theory.

 

[TurtleDude]

Really.

So the GOP of today would be okay with another earned income tax credit? Oh wait. protested the earned income tax credit under Obama.
So the GOP of today would be for emissions trading, pinoneered under Reagan which is cap and trade? Oh wait. They are calling Cap and Trade "evil."
So the GOP of today would be for Obama's weapons control as Reagan pushed hard for? Oh wait. They called his entire idea on that "awful."
So the GOP of today would be for raising taxes to save Social Security as Reagan did? Oh wait. Their dirty open secret is to privatize it.

I'll give you one thing the GOP of today is similar to of the GOP of Reagan. Military force as applied Jominian theory.

lets pick minor issues while ignoring the fact that the dems of today are openly in support of class warfare

the GOP position on abortion has not changed
the GOP position on management-Labor has not changed
the GOP position on gun rights has not changed
cap and trade-LOL
Reagan cut the top bracket rates massively
Reagan was pro defense


try again

 

[TurtleDude]

photoshop is a right wing extremist? that actually explains a lot.

hazlnut and others do not realize that their collectivist philosophy which makes individuals subordinate to the state is much closer to fascism than Palin's philosophy

the secular welfare socialists hate religion because it is an obstace to full devotion to the state and the Mother-Goddess Nanny

 

[soccerboy22]

photoshop is a right wing extremist? that actually explains a lot.

It is actually more lolcat I think with some extremists, Communists, Fascists, and Admiral Ackbar thrown in.

 

[The Baron]

"In my opinion, a right-wing extremist is someone who
1. holds opinions are fueled by hate, whether it be against race, religion, or economic or social class
2. uses fear and paranoia as a political tool
3. wants to make america a theocracy by making Christian beliefs into law
4. exploits the patriotism of others
5. compares anyone they don't like to Hitler, and using the word "liberal" to describe anyone who disagrees with them
6. shuns and even opposes intellect and education" - anonymous

I don't know anyone like this...conservative, liberal, whatever!

 

[Goshin]

To me a right wing extremist is someone who is conservative in nature who threatens or performs a terrorist or violent act in order to instill fear and achieve conservative/supremacist/segregationist/nativist/extreme religious political gains.

That's a reasonable definition. It's a pity that much of the news media and some in the Democrat party don't seem to use that definition in slinging the term around broadly.

 

[hazlnut]

photoshop is a right wing extremist? that actually explains a lot.

Try reading and thinking before speaking next time...

 

[snbl11225]

Really.

So the GOP of today would be okay with another earned income tax credit? Oh wait. protested the earned income tax credit under Obama.
So the GOP of today would be for emissions trading, pinoneered under Reagan which is cap and trade? Oh wait. They are calling Cap and Trade "evil."
So the GOP of today would be for Obama's weapons control as Reagan pushed hard for? Oh wait. They called his entire idea on that "awful."
So the GOP of today would be for raising taxes to save Social Security as Reagan did? Oh wait. Their dirty open secret is to privatize it.

I'll give you one thing the GOP of today is similar to of the GOP of Reagan. Military force as applied Jominian theory.

I think this discussion has gotten off track. I don't think disagreements about policy, economic or otherwise, makes anyone an extremist. And it doesn't matter whether they are on the left, right, or somewhere in between. It's there rhetoric & actions. I want to add motivations, but it's difficult to know what someone inner motivations may be. If a persons rhetoric is such that it creates a violent atmosphere or puts others in danger then I would consider them to be an extremist. The same is true with there actions. To be against abortion is a policy. To plant a bomb or kill someone who works in an abortion clinic would be considered an extremist. I have known a number of individuals who were part of para-miliatary groups. Given there rhetoric and activities, I would consider them extremists and potentially dangerous. By the same token, I knew a number of radicals from the sixties whom I would consider extremists. Though I shared many of their policies, I did not believe in either their rhetoric or the manner (activities) they voiced in wanting to obtain their goals. They were also dangerous. Today there seems to be a re-emergence of the anger that existed back then. Instead of young people, it is coming from an older generation who has become frustrated with the world today. Most of them, like those of the sixties, are trying to find a better future for them and there children. What concerns me, is that they are providing an umbrella for those who, like Timothy McVeigh, only care about the destruction of the status quo. People that I would expect to use their wisdom to draw a line in the sand are, instead, concerned only about maintaing their status quo and/or getting re-elected. Where are Mike Huckabee, Dick Armory, George Bush Jr. & Sr., and even Sarah Palin to reign in those who are spewing hate and misnomers. And wheres John McCain. I'm a progressive. But had John McCain been the same as he was during his run for the presidency in 2000 he would have had my vote. I agreed with Obama on policy, but I knew and see him as a politician. That was not true of McCain. He had my respect as a war hero and as a man. He had integrity. And for me, he gave it all away for the possibility of being elected President. He became another politician. I though, however, that now he would stand up and reclaim the party. Instead, even he, has shed away from attempting to provide moral clarity.

 

[Arch Enemy]

There isn't a straight and horizontal spectrum. It is more or less a circle where the right and left meets at a certain point.

Now with that said, "extremism" is not necessarily on any spectrum. Extremism is modus operandi for certain points on the spectrum. It dictates the measures to which one would go to see their perspective through. A tea-party protester in Denver, CO. holding a sign that says "hand off my money, bitch" that depicts Obama signaling "fork over the money" is not extremism. A tea-party protester who has booby-trapped his drive way to make sure that whenever the tax collector comes by he blows them to smithereens is an extremist.

Call the tea-party out for it's hypocritical rhetoric and it's silly ancestor worship, but because it holds what I may consider as silly or dead wrong viewpoints does not mean that sign-wielding tea party member is an extremist-- you know.. until he booby-traps his drive way.

 

[TheGirlNextDoor]

There isn't a straight and horizontal spectrum. It is more or less a circle where the right and left meets at a certain point.

Now with that said, "extremism" is not necessarily on any spectrum. Extremism is modus operandi for certain points on the spectrum. It dictates the measures to which one would go to see their perspective through. A tea-party protester in Denver, CO. holding a sign that says "hand off my money, bitch" that depicts Obama signaling "fork over the money" is not extremism. A tea-party protester who has booby-trapped his drive way to make sure that whenever the tax collector comes by he blows them to smithereens is an extremist.

Call the tea-party out for it's hypocritical rhetoric and it's silly ancestor worship, but because it holds what I may consider as silly or dead wrong viewpoints does not mean that sign-wielding tea party member is an extremist-- you know.. until he booby-traps his drive way.

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