Yeah...if one wants a Lord/Serf society. When Reagan slashed tax rates for the wealthy to the lowest they had been in 50 years the middle class in this country began to disappear. Clinton began to straighten it out and then along came George....slow walkin', slow talkin' George. Cut tax rates for the wealthy twice, started two wars....one totally unnecessary and doubled the national debt:
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Resigne.
Let's face facts ....Obama was disrespected by many the minute he won in 2008.
After butchering 100,000 Iraqis, sending 5,000 GI's to an untimely death, presiding over a mega collapse of our economy ......and caught asleep despite prior warning when this country suffered the greatest attack ever ....Bush amazingly doesn't disgust ....but still walks around with many fan fare from those disgusted with Obama!! :roll:
For me ...the one thing I wanted from Obama (and any president for the matter) is to reign in the banks and insurance companies from the scams they play on the America people daily!!
Start a public works program similar to what FDR did in the early 1930's and use the employees to rebuild the infra-structure. Our dams, levees, bridges, electrical grid, highways etc. have been allowed to go to hell for the last ten years. Thanks to George W. Bush and his war mongering and tax cuts for the wealthy this country is in the worst shape it's been during my lifetime. The upper 1% controls 90% of the wealth in America and they have a Republican congress which will stand in the way of or filibuster anything good for the nation and ensure that the rich will continue not to pay their fair share.
Removed the pics for cosmetic purposes.
Look. It doesn't matter. The argument you were trying to make is that the rich don't pay their fair share when they do pay more than their fair share on income tax. It's that simple.
You want things to be fair? have a flat tax, no exemptions. Everybody, no matter how much he makes, pays the same % of income. But that's a bad tax for the poor. This way, the poor are getting off easy since they are actually getting money from the federal govt, the somewhat ok pay little to nothing, and progressively, the rich end up paying so much than the bottom so that the poor are covered. So that the poor can get money from the govt back.
A progressive tax system is not a fair tax system. A progressive tax automatically excludes the idea of a fair share because the ones at the top are going to pay more than their fair share. So automatically, the ones at the top are getting the short end of the stick since they have to carry the ones at the bottom. And that's fine.
I do agree that capital gains taxes should be increased. But this doesn't fall under income tax. It falls under capital gains tax. And in capital gains tax, again, the poor, who don't invest, don't pay their fair share because they aren't even in the loop. And the ones who do invest are paying a LOT.
So I am specifically asking anti-obama, conservative, republicans people as well as disenfranchized liberals who dislike Obama and his administration.
If he could do 1 thing, pass 1 law (assuming he has the power to pass said law through Congress automatically), participate in 1 event or I don't know, do 1 thing and 1 thing, what would be it so that you could say: Hmm, maybe he's not that bad. Maybe things will be good.
And I am not looking for things like: fix the economy or deregulate everything or resign. So if you give answers like this you're not participating in the discussion, you're basically spamming. Give more aimed answers that help fertilize a discussion and a frank exchange in opinion.
I want decisive answers.
Examples:
-I would like him to repeal the patriot act
-I would like him to ban assault rifles
-I would like him to drop Obamacare
-I would like to see him play baseball and promote sports.
-I would like him to stop foreign aid
-Withdraw all the troops in foreign theaters immidiatly
-Do arms-wrestling with Putin and win (jk)
-Stop blaming Bush or apologize for blaming bush. Show that he has guts.
-close gitmo.
This thread's purpose is to allow anti-obama people to reach across the DP aisle and hopefully lead to a better discussion instead of just partisan lines. So yeah... one thing that if he does it, it will make you have faith in him.
Alternatively, if you are a pro-obama person and you wish to participate, you could name one of the things he did that pleases you greatly and why you think he's a great president.
If he could do 1 thing, pass 1 law (assuming he has the power to pass said law through Congress automatically), participate in 1 event or I don't know, do 1 thing and 1 thing, what would be it so that you could say: Hmm, maybe he's not that bad. Maybe things will be good.
LOL!!! Yeah....cosmetics
I'm hovering over my chair here in front of the PC monitor on humming birds wings while my asshole sucks a fresh lime
What can your President do that will make you have confidence in him?
If he could do 1 thing, pass 1 law (assuming he has the power to pass said law through Congress automatically), participate in 1 event or I don't know, do 1 thing and 1 thing, what would be it so that you could say: Hmm, maybe he's not that bad. Maybe things will be good.
So base on all the responses that you guys gave, there is absolutely nothing he can do for you to gain any confidence in him?
So if he
1) lower taxes
2) Got rid of regulations
4) Got rid of welfare
5) Put Obamacare to pasture
6) Became a Ted Nugent groupie
Anything he did, you guys would still tell him to go to hell.
Yep you guys are republicans....
So base on all the responses that you guys
gave, there is absolutely nothing he can do for you to gain any confidence in him?
So if he
1) lower taxes
2) Got rid of regulations
4) Got rid of welfare
5) Put Obamacare to pasture
6) Became a Ted Nugent groupie
Anything he did, you guys would still tell him to go to hell.
Yep you guys are republicans....
Yes, cosmetic as in, you're comment is too long and I shortened it.
Everything I wrote there is true and you know it.
How many Iraqi's were "butchered" by Saddam?
I didnt agree with the Iraq war, but not surprised we went. We should have won, and left.
Acting on "prior warning" and we would be having the same conversation we have today. Too much government intrusion in our lives.
And Obama, voted for the same bail out that was worse than the collapse.
I have no idea why you aimed that drivel at me, but you are way way of base.Let me point out something to you and all conservatives. And that is ...your constant insistent to use the ...."they do it too" ...argument ..when it make no sense. Trust me all it does is make you people on the right look stupid.
For example ...when talking about the "N" word ..the constant wailing from the right is always ....they use it toooooo!!
When Travon Martin was murdered ....the right constant howling was ...blacks kill each other toooooo!!
When O-Jay simpson was on trial ....did you hear blacks howling ...white people kill white people ...tooooo?? :roll:
And in the case of Travon Martin ....because blacks kill other blacks ....errr ....you too need need to ...kill-people blacks yourself??? What logic!!
In this case .....OK Saddam kill Iraqis ...toooo...that's your argument.
Tell us ...how many of those people did Bush bring back to life by invading Iraq?
And if you claim Bush saved further bloodshed ....show us the impending plans Saddam had to slaughter another 100,000 Iraqis!!!
So..again here's why you look stupid making this argument .......you're contention actually is ...because Saddam killed his people back in the 80's ...Bush was somehow justified to .....KILL ANOTHER 100,000.. himself???
That makes perfect sense ...:lamo
If I was a Christian ...I would pray to God almighty everyday ....to never make me spend one second .....thinking like you!!
Let me point out something to you and all conservatives. And that is ...your constant insistent to use the ...."they do it too" ...argument ..when it make no sense. Trust me all it does is make you people on the right look stupid.
For example ...when talking about the "N" word ..the constant wailing from the right is always ....they use it toooooo!!
When Travon Martin was murdered ....the right constant howling was ...blacks kill each other toooooo!!
When O-Jay simpson was on trial ....did you hear blacks howling ...white people kill white people ...tooooo?? :roll:
And in the case of Travon Martin ....because blacks kill other blacks ....errr ....you too need need to ...kill-people blacks yourself??? What logic!!
In this case .....OK Saddam kill Iraqis ...toooo...that's your argument.
Tell us ...how many of those people did Bush bring back to life by invading Iraq?
And if you claim Bush saved further bloodshed ....show us the impending plans Saddam had to slaughter another 100,000 Iraqis!!!
So..again here's why you look stupid making this argument .......you're contention actually is ...because Saddam killed his people back in the 80's ...Bush was somehow justified to .....KILL ANOTHER 100,000.. himself???
That makes perfect sense ...:lamo
If I was a Christian ...I would pray to God almighty everyday ....to never make me spend one second .....thinking like you!!
I have no idea why you aimed that drivel at me, but you are way way of base.
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