[W:#201]Your parent's Democratic Party is dead

[Redress]

that's a lie and you know it but so what else is new. where did I deny that some on the right hate? I just get tired of the left pretending their shit don't stink. Do you hate white people and men?

Well, no, it is not a lie. You, without fail except for your one or two tokens, claim that every time a black or woman or (god forbid) black woman achieves anything, it is affirmative action. In your world, blacks and women cannot achieve things without it being given to them, and they take from more deserving white men. That is your world view. Trying to deny it isn't going to get you far.

 

[Tigerace117]

Seems I am not alone, what is it about liberalism that creates total ignorance of results and such low approval ratings? Some people apparently live in their parents basement and are not affected by 8.5% inflation or poor economic policies and results

Oh, there’s plenty of fanatical Trump cultists who are in full blown poutrage over Biden kicking your Dear Leader’s ass. That’s hardly news bud

But hey, way to remind us how out of touch with reality the Trump cult is.

 

[Conservative]

Stop begging for my attention. I am not the subject of your thread.

No but you have no problem diverting from the thread topic. The OP is spot on and you are thus part of the problem

 

[Conservative]

Oh, there’s plenty of fanatical Trump cultists who are in full blown poutrage over Biden kicking your Dear Leader’s ass. That’s hardly news bud

But hey, way to remind us how out of touch with reality the Trump cult is.

Here's the real problem over a year after Trump left office he is still on your mind indicating that he must have done something so terrible that it is still engrained into your head even though you cannot provide one bit of information on policies implemented that hurt you or your family. So sad that there is such hatred focused solely on Trump rhetoric that radical liberal rhetoric is ignored.

Guess you are right about being out of touch with YOUR reality, my reality focuses on policies and results not insulting rhetoric.

 

[Peacenik]

Your problem is typical liberalism totally ignoring what taxes you pay and their purpose always buying the liberal rhetoric. Why don't you post the line items that created the Trump deficits pre pandemic then 2020? You won't because you have no clue and it would make you and the rest of left look like fools

I don't speak for the left. It is absurd to claim that how I post is a reflection of the 'rest of the left.' I am just one person with some understanding of our nation, a person who wants to talk about it in a world where so many people can't keep their emotions in check enough to talk about politics IRL. And this is not about me. Don't even go there. I have no 'problem' that you need to try to solve or figure out.

I am one anonymous voice in America, attempting to talk about politics in an online forum, the decisions which shape our lives, what goes into them, who makes them, and how we can try to improve our nation. I am about the substance of what we came here to talk about.

There are no line items to talk about. The Trump tax cut was the biggest item that ran the debt up. And it was a ruse. It pretended to improve the situation, but it made it worse. The rich and powerful got a permanent tax cut and the rest of us got a temporary one that will be expiring soon. Just enough to buy off enough temporary support of the general public so that the rich and powerful could get what they want forever; as they pretend to give America something. They gave it and then they take it back away. And too many of us fell for it.

The rich and powerful get what they want. And they mainly use the Republican Party to get it. They'll use the Democratic Party if they have to and if it will work, but mainly it's the Republicans that give them just about everything they want.

What you want to ignore is how many of those "super" rich are actually Democrats and bureaucrats on the public dole.

The super rich donate to Republicans over Democrats 4 to 1. If you want to oppose the super-rich, the best way to do it is to VOTE BLUE in 22!

 

[HangLow]

So you watch other porn....

​

 

[Conservative]

I don't speak for the left. It is absurd to claim that how I post is a reflection of the 'rest of the left.' I am just one person with some understanding of our nation, a person who wants to talk about it in a world where so many people can't keep their emotions in check enough to talk about politics IRL. And this is not about me. Don't even go there. I have no 'problem' that you need to try to solve or figure out.

I am one anonymous voice in America, attempting to talk about politics in an online forum, the decisions which shape our lives, what goes into them, who makes them, and how we can try to improve our nation. I am about the substance of what we came here to talk about.

There are no line items to talk about. The Trump tax cut was the biggest item that ran the debt up. And it was a ruse. It pretended to improve the situation, but it made it worse. The rich and powerful got a permanent tax cut and the rest of us got a temporary one that will be expiring soon. Just enough to buy off enough temporary support of the general public so that the rich and powerful could get what they want forever; as they pretend to give America something. They gave it and then they take it back away. And too many of us fell for it.

The rich and powerful get what they want. And they mainly use the Republican Party to get it. They'll use the Democratic Party if they have to and if it will work, but mainly it's the Republicans that give them just about everything they want.

The super rich donate to Republicans over Democrats 4 to 1. If you want to oppose the super-rich, the best way to do it is to VOTE BLUE in 22!

When I see posts like yours it shows how bad the education system is in this country and how liberal propaganda influences so many. The tax cuts DID NOT drive up the deficits because FIT and CIT doesn't fund SS and Medicare, only the discretionary budget items or operating expenses of the U.S. I have posted links to that information only to be ignored but still you buy the rhetoric. Why is that?

You obviously are like far too many believing in rhetoric but having no clue as to the taxes you pay or their purpose. Prove to us how Tax cuts that generated over 2 trillion revenue Post 216 to fund 1.6 trillion in expenses causes deficits? Then tell me how state and local governments get their revenue and the effect of taxes on spendable income.

I have no idea why you and others are so loyal to the liberal ideology and how it doesn't resonate that every actual taxpayer got a tax cut thus more spendable income. The Democrat Party today is a FRAUD, a party that appeals to the hearts of supporters and diverts from the results generated. It promotes class envy and jealousy. Why do you care what someone else earns or pays in TX. Study Post 216 and educate yourself on official treasury datta

The super rich live in California, a state that has been under Democrat control for decades. do you really want the country to be like California? You cannot bring the beaches, the weather or the mountains to your state but you sure can bring liberal economics and failures to your state along with the cost of living. You do know that state and local taxes are collected, right? What do they fund?

 

[Conservative]

I don't speak for the left. It is absurd to claim that how I post is a reflection of the 'rest of the left.' I am just one person with some understanding of our nation, a person who wants to talk about it in a world where so many people can't keep their emotions in check enough to talk about politics IRL. And this is not about me. Don't even go there. I have no 'problem' that you need to try to solve or figure out.

I am one anonymous voice in America, attempting to talk about politics in an online forum, the decisions which shape our lives, what goes into them, who makes them, and how we can try to improve our nation. I am about the substance of what we came here to talk about.

There are no line items to talk about. The Trump tax cut was the biggest item that ran the debt up. And it was a ruse. It pretended to improve the situation, but it made it worse. The rich and powerful got a permanent tax cut and the rest of us got a temporary one that will be expiring soon. Just enough to buy off enough temporary support of the general public so that the rich and powerful could get what they want forever; as they pretend to give America something. They gave it and then they take it back away. And too many of us fell for it.

The rich and powerful get what they want. And they mainly use the Republican Party to get it. They'll use the Democratic Party if they have to and if it will work, but mainly it's the Republicans that give them just about everything they want.

The super rich donate to Republicans over Democrats 4 to 1. If you want to oppose the super-rich, the best way to do it is to VOTE BLUE in 22!

I answered this post in 232 and would appreciate a response. I never get responses from anyone who posts like you when that narrative is destroyed, wonder what it is about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? There is pure ignorance when it comes to the taxes paid, their purpose and how liberal rhetoric promoting higher taxes and blaming the deficits on FIT cuts all for their own personal gain and to divert from the reality of what a disaster liberal economics is. Did you send your Trump tax cut back?

 

[tres borrachos]

No but you have no problem diverting from the thread topic. The OP is spot on and you are thus part of the problem

I'm not the one who posted about my husband. Or me. That was you.

I am not the thread topic and you should stop talking about me as you were already warned to do by a moderator.

 

[American]

A: the democratic party is not what your propaganda source tells you. Clue for you: Opinion pieces do not represent facts.
B: even if the democratic party of my parents was dead, it still outlived the republican party of my parents, and went far less radical and reactionary.

That's not what your Custom Title implies.

 

[notquiteright]

15 Most Polluted Cities in the US | Earth.Org

40% of Americans currently live in cities with polluted air, with California being home to some of the most polluted cities in the US.

earth.org

and this is with CARB Gasoline that is the highest prices in the nation and the highest state taxes on gasoline in the nation.

Didn't know that slavery was an issue today? Separate but equal an issue? Defense of marriage? where is that in the Constitution. States control this issue and all other social issues you blame on the Republicans in D.C. including minimum wage

I dodge nothing as you offer nothing to dodge. Bring it on, what policies did Trump implement that created such hatred and hurt you?

Nice dodge- you claimed California but recite cities.... typical propaganda. Most cities cited to include Grant's Pass, Oregon (I've been there) have mountains that block air flow. By STATE, many Republican states rank in the top 'dirty dozen'

History alludes you, for you life begins and ends with the rise and fall of the sun. States rights vs Federal govt has been going on longer than the tRump admin.

What you doges are your rather feeble excuses for why we can't join the other modern industrialized nations with a far more secure social safety net. Republicans screamed "COMMIE' at the idea of Social Security, now the vast majority of Americans wouldn't repeal it. As light as the ACA goes toward better medical protections, the Republicans can't repeal it, and Americans don't want it gone.

The topic wasn't tRump, but rather the now bitter rhetoric from the Rabid Right for what every other modern nation has. My first post noted how the Republican Party wouldn't be recognized by Eisenhower Republicans. Once the GOP all but ignored social issues and concentrated on business issues. Those days are long gone. Like I said, Reagan wouldn't be allowed in the Party of Lincoln, and I doubt Honest Abe would be either...

 

[Tigerace117]

Here's the real problem over a year after Trump left office he is still on your mind indicating that he must have done something so terrible that it is still engrained into your head even though you cannot provide one bit of information on policies implemented that hurt you or your family. So sad that there is such hatred focused solely on Trump rhetoric that radical liberal rhetoric is ignored.

Guess you are right about being out of touch with YOUR reality, my reality focuses on policies and results not insulting rhetoric.

Here’s the real problem— even a year after your Dear Leader was booted out of office, his fanatical followers— like YOU— still haven’t been able to face the fact that he lost fair and square, and have instead embarked on a months long sabotage campaign.

I’ve done so repeatedly.....and it just goes in one ear and out the other with you, because you can’t bring yourself to live in the real world.

Your “reality” is fanatical devotion to your cult leader and desperation to avoid having to face the facts.

 

[Conservative]

Nice dodge- you claimed California but recite cities.... typical propaganda. Most cities cited to include Grant's Pass, Oregon (I've been there) have mountains that block air flow. By STATE, many Republican states rank in the top 'dirty dozen'

LOL, yep, LA isn't apparently in LA nor are the other cities, how can a state like California with the most stringent EPA requirements have so many cities in the top pollution category? Stop buying rhetoric and recognize what a fraud history is

History alludes you, for you life begins and ends with the rise and fall of the sun. States rights vs Federal govt has been going on longer than the tRump admin.

Then stop blaming Trump for state failures!

What you doges are your rather feeble excuses for why we can't join the other modern industrialized nations with a far more secure social safety net. Republicans screamed "COMMIE' at the idea of Social Security, now the vast majority of Americans wouldn't repeal it. As light as the ACA goes toward better medical protections, the Republicans can't repeal it, and Americans don't want it gone.

Because we aren't other European socialist utopias. you have yet to post a European country that is similar to ours in population, size and scope. Republicans focused on what SS was supposed to be but isn't, a retirement supplement not to be used by the Congress to spend as they see fit.

ACA should be a state responsibility so tell me for example how the state of California with the 5th largest world economy cannot provide UHC for its residents? How can the bluest state in the nation with the best economic conditions have such poor social results, pure Democratic radical liberalism

The topic wasn't tRump, but rather the now bitter rhetoric from the Rabid Right for what every other modern nation has. My first post noted how the Republican Party wouldn't be recognized by Eisenhower Republicans. Once the GOP all but ignored social issues and concentrated on business issues. Those days are long gone. Like I said, Reagan wouldn't be allowed in the Party of Lincoln, and I doubt Honest Abe would be either...

You don't have a clue what the Republican Party stands for or has implemented just what the left tells you. Waiting for the policies Trump implemented that have hurt you and the country? Now run away like Most liberals

 

[Conservative]

Here’s the real problem— even a year after your Dear Leader was booted out of office, his fanatical followers— like YOU— still haven’t been able to face the fact that he lost fair and square, and have instead embarked on a months long sabotage campaign.

Losing an election doesn't answer the question I posed, why did you vote FOR Biden?

I’ve done so repeatedly.....and it just goes in one ear and out the other with you, because you can’t bring yourself to live in the real world.

Your “reality” is fanatical devotion to your cult leader and desperation to avoid having to face the facts.

You have done nothing but show your TDS. Waiting for exactly what policies Trump implemented that hurt you or the country? You offer none which is the right answer to it is all about personality and perception

 

[Conservative]

I don't speak for the left. It is absurd to claim that how I post is a reflection of the 'rest of the left.' I am just one person with some understanding of our nation, a person who wants to talk about it in a world where so many people can't keep their emotions in check enough to talk about politics IRL. And this is not about me. Don't even go there. I have no 'problem' that you need to try to solve or figure out.

I am one anonymous voice in America, attempting to talk about politics in an online forum, the decisions which shape our lives, what goes into them, who makes them, and how we can try to improve our nation. I am about the substance of what we came here to talk about.

There are no line items to talk about. The Trump tax cut was the biggest item that ran the debt up. And it was a ruse. It pretended to improve the situation, but it made it worse. The rich and powerful got a permanent tax cut and the rest of us got a temporary one that will be expiring soon. Just enough to buy off enough temporary support of the general public so that the rich and powerful could get what they want forever; as they pretend to give America something. They gave it and then they take it back away. And too many of us fell for it.

The rich and powerful get what they want. And they mainly use the Republican Party to get it. They'll use the Democratic Party if they have to and if it will work, but mainly it's the Republicans that give them just about everything they want.

The super rich donate to Republicans over Democrats 4 to 1. If you want to oppose the super-rich, the best way to do it is to VOTE BLUE in 22!

Still waiting for a response to how 1.6 trillion dollar discretionary budget and 2 trillion dollars in FIT and CIT revenue causes debt to explode? Post 232 is being ignored by you and the rest of the liberals/progressives in this forum

 

[Peacenik]

When I see posts like yours it shows how bad the education system is in this country and how liberal propaganda influences so many. The tax cuts DID NOT drive up the deficits because FIT and CIT doesn't fund SS and Medicare, only the discretionary budget items or operating expenses of the U.S. I have posted links to that information only to be ignored but still you buy the rhetoric. Why is that?

You obviously are like far too many believing in rhetoric but having no clue as to the taxes you pay or their purpose. Prove to us how Tax cuts that generated over 2 trillion revenue Post 216 to fund 1.6 trillion in expenses causes deficits? Then tell me how state and local governments get their revenue and the effect of taxes on spendable income.

I have no idea why you and others are so loyal to the liberal ideology and how it doesn't resonate that every actual taxpayer got a tax cut thus more spendable income. The Democrat Party today is a FRAUD, a party that appeals to the hearts of supporters and diverts from the results generated. It promotes class envy and jealousy. Why do you care what someone else earns or pays in TX. Study Post 216 and educate yourself on official treasury datta

The super rich live in California, a state that has been under Democrat control for decades. do you really want the country to be like California? You cannot bring the beaches, the weather or the mountains to your state but you sure can bring liberal economics and failures to your state along with the cost of living. You do know that state and local taxes are collected, right? What do they fund?

Trying to make the discussion about the other poster is a weak argument. Actually discussing the subject makes for a better discussion.

The tax cuts drove the deficit up because they resulted in less revenue than would have been coming in with higher tax rates on the rich.

All other factors remaining the same, a higher tax rate produces more revenue, and a lower tax rate produces less revenue.

Less money coming in results in more money being borrowed to pay for everything. More debt.

The middle got some temporary tax cuts, sure. But they will soon be ending. That's BS. Republicans knew it is not possible to pay for the budget on less revenue so they did a trick. Gave everyone a tax cut but then it goes away very soon, in 2025. Individual taxes will go back up then because insufficient revenue is being generated.

Oh, but taxes for big rich powerful corporations don't go back up. That's the ruse, the trick. Permanent cuts for the super-rich corporations, temporary ones for us. Republicans fell for it because, well, they're easy. They never saw a tax cut they didn't like. And despite the claims, Republican politicians do not care about the debt. They only want to appear to care about it when it is convenient, when Democrats are in the majority.

The debt is higher because the Republican tax cut did not collect enough money to pay for government.

 

[Conservative]

Trying to make the discussion about the other poster is a weak argument. Actually discussing the subject makes for a better discussion.

What is a weak argument is ignoring Treasury data and the line items in the budget and what taxes fund those line items

The tax cuts drove the deficit up because they resulted in less revenue than would have been coming in with higher tax rates on the rich.

That isn't what Treasury shows which is in the link I gave you to bea.gov. That is liberal rhetoric and false. FIT and CIT along with excise taxes were over 2 trillion dollars to fund 1.6 trillion, how does that generate a deficit

All other factors remaining the same, a higher tax rate produces more revenue, and a lower tax rate produces less revenue.

No it doesn't, it lowers spending and that is the number one component of GDP and the source of state and local revenue. You have more withholding taken out of your paycheck thus less spendable income and less sales and property taxes to the state

Less money coming in results in more money being borrowed to pay for everything. More debt.

it is entitlement spending that is creating the deficit not tax cuts

The middle got some temporary tax cuts, sure. But they will soon be ending. That's BS. Republicans knew it is not possible to pay for the budget on less revenue so they did a trick. Gave everyone a tax cut but then it goes away very soon, in 2025. Individual taxes will go back up then because insufficient revenue is being generated.

Every taxpayer got a tax cut as the rates show. Do you that tax rates were cut? In spite of treasury data and the link I gave you that data you continue to post false information, why?

Oh, but taxes for big rich powerful corporations don't go back up. That's the ruse, the trick. Permanent cuts for the super-rich corporations, temporary ones for us. Republicans fell for it because, well, they're easy. They never saw a tax cut they didn't like. And despite the claims, Republican politicians do not care about the debt. They only want to appear to care about it when it is convenient, when Democrats are in the majority.

Corporations employ people who pay taxes so before making dumb statements like this review the FIT and CIT revenue from the treasury site I gave you and tell me how that creates deficits

The debt is higher because the Republican tax cut did not collect enough money to pay for government.

that is a lie, stop promoting it. the data makes you look foolish? What is it about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty?

 

[Peacenik]

I answered this post in 232 and would appreciate a response. I never get responses from anyone who posts like you when that narrative is destroyed, wonder what it is about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? There is pure ignorance when it comes to the taxes paid, their purpose and how liberal rhetoric promoting higher taxes and blaming the deficits on FIT cuts all for their own personal gain and to divert from the reality of what a disaster liberal economics is. Did you send your Trump tax cut back?

If you want to have more in depth discussions with me, try not talking about me, or trying to make the discussion about me. I don't do that to you, and I would appreciate the same respect in return. And certainly have the decency to stop with the constant insults. Address the subject at hand and stop making it about the other poster. I am about borderline ready to simply stop responding to you altogether because of the tenor of your posts. I find myself wondering if you can even respect someone who holds a different view, and that is not why I come here. I actually just want to discuss the subject. Can you do that?

I don't come here to defend liberalism against your stereotype. I seek to improve America. I want a prosperous free nation in which the general welfare is promoted. Capitalism must be heavily regulated by government to do that. Government is not a bad thing. It is something we the people have to manage. Since we are not doing that, the super-rich are happy to wrap government around their little finger, which is precisely what has happened and continues to happen as long as the Republican party and the blue dogs do their bidding.

 

[Peacenik]

What is a weak argument is ignoring Treasury data and the line items in the budget and what taxes fund those line items


That isn't what Treasury shows which is in the link I gave you to bea.gov. That is liberal rhetoric and false. FIT and CIT along with excise taxes were over 2 trillion dollars to fund 1.6 trillion, how does that generate a deficit

The budget is more than 1.6T.

No it doesn't, it lowers spending

How does it do that? If the government gets less revenue that doesn't force it to spend any less. It forces the government to borrow more. All government spending is already approved. It does not depend on revenue.

and that is the number one component of GDP and the source of state and local revenue. You have more withholding taken out of your paycheck thus less spendable income and less sales and property taxes to the state

Property taxes are collected regardless of how much take-home pay workers get. There is no correlation.

it is entitlement spending that is creating the deficit not tax cuts

Entitlements go mostly to the poor who spend pretty much 100% of what they get. That means entitlement spending gets pumped very directly right back into the economy, thus increasing GDP.

Every taxpayer got a tax cut as the rates show. Do you that tax rates were cut? In spite of treasury data and the link I gave you that data you continue to post false information, why?

I made no error. Word substitution trickery does not constitute a false statement on my part.

Corporations employ people who pay taxes so before making dumb statements like this review the FIT and CIT revenue from the treasury site I gave you and tell me how that creates deficits

OK, I am growing really tired of these insults. I do not insult you and I would appreciate a straight up discussion about the subject without all the personal denigration. If that is not possible then I shall have to seek someone else who can discuss this from the conservative view who can do so on the basis of the merit of the argument. (Am I seeking the impossible?)

It should be noted that a decision to go personal, or insulting, strongly suggests a lack of confidence in the argument made. t
The insults are thrown in as a distraction, or an attempt to elicit an emotional response. I have only so much patience for that and then I simply stop talking to a poster who does this.

Basically, if you want to have a discussion with me, it must be on a mutually respectful basis. Now, I have been patient on this, but my patience will run out, I assure you.

that is a lie, stop promoting it. the data makes you look foolish? What is it about liberalism that creates your kind of loyalty?

I am beginning to get the impression that a mutually respectful discussion on this matter is not possible with you. Back off or I'm not wasting any more time with you. I enjoy life too much to go online for this kind of grief.

 

[jakiejakester]

it is entitlement spending that is creating the deficit not tax cuts

Out of context and slanted...you leave out what tax cuts do to the debt:

What Is the Current US Federal Budget Deficit?

The U.S. federal budget deficit was $2.8 trillion in fiscal year 2021. Learn more about what impacts the federal budget and whether you should be concerned.

www.thebalance.com

Tax Cuts​

Tax cuts immediately reduce revenue and add to the national debt. For example, the Bush tax cuts added $5.6 trillion to the national debt between 2001 and 2018.12 The national debt and the federal deficit are related because the national debt is the accumulation of each year's deficit. So every year, tax cuts add to the deficit by reducing revenue.

And this:

The Trump tax cut reduced revenue by lowering taxes on personal income, small businesses, and corporations. The Joint Committee on Taxation projected that these cuts would add nearly $1.5 trillion to the debt between 2018 and 2027.13

And this:

Some economists say that tax cuts boost the economy so much that additional revenues in the long term will offset short-term losses. The National Bureau of Economic Research found that in the long run, only 17% of revenue from income tax cuts may be regained, while half of the revenue from corporate tax cuts may be regained.14

 

[Conservative]

If you want to have more in depth discussions with me, try not talking about me, or trying to make the discussion about me. I don't do that to you, and I would appreciate the same respect in return. And certainly have the decency to stop with the constant insults. Address the subject at hand and stop making it about the other poster. I am about borderline ready to simply stop responding to you altogether because of the tenor of your posts. I find myself wondering if you can even respect someone who holds a different view, and that is not why I come here. I actually just want to discuss the subject. Can you do that?

I don't come here to defend liberalism against your stereotype. I seek to improve America. I want a prosperous free nation in which the general welfare is promoted. Capitalism must be heavily regulated by government to do that. Government is not a bad thing. It is something we the people have to manage. Since we are not doing that, the super-rich are happy to wrap government around their little finger, which is precisely what has happened and continues to happen as long as the Republican party and the blue dogs do their bidding.

Then respond to the Treasury data that I posted and explained to me how 2 trillion dollars in federal income tax and corporate income tax to fund 1.6 trillion dollars in discretionary budget causes deficits

 

[Conservative]

The budget is more than 1.6T.

Yes it is discretionary and mandatory. The link I gave explains them

How does it do that? If the government gets less revenue that doesn't force it to spend any less. It forces the government to borrow more. All government spending is already approved. It does not depend on revenue.

Less revenue from what? Does FIT and CIT fund discretionary budget

Property taxes are collected regardless of how much take-home pay workers get. There is no correlation.

Property taxes are state taxes and are paid AFTER federal withholding

Entitlements go mostly to the poor who spend pretty much 100% of what they get. That means entitlement spending gets pumped very directly right back into the economy, thus increasing GDP.

Ok, so what? What taxes fund those issues

I made no error. Word substitution trickery does not constitute a false statement on my part.

Facts destroy your narrative

OK, I am growing really tired of these insults. I do not insult you and I would appreciate a straight up discussion about the subject without all the personal denigration. If that is not possible then I shall have to seek someone else who can discuss this from the conservative view who can do so on the basis of the merit of the argument. (Am I seeking the impossible?)

sorry address the treasury data

It should be noted that a decision to go personal, or insulting, strongly suggests a lack of confidence in the argument made. t
The insults are thrown in as a distraction, or an attempt to elicit an emotional response. I have only so much patience for that and then I simply stop talking to a poster who does thisically, if you want to have a discussion with me, it must be on a mutually respectful basis. Now, I have been patient on this, but my patience will run out, I assure you.

Sorry but facts aren't insults

I am beginning to get the impression that a mutually respectful discussion on this matter is not possible with you. Back off or I'm not wasting any more time with you. I enjoy life too much to go online for this kind of grief.

You haven't addressed the links I gave you. So sorry but you are a typical liberal

 

[Peacenik]

Yes it is discretionary and mandatory. The link I gave explains them

Less revenue from what? Does FIT and CIT fund discretionary budget

Property taxes are state taxes and are paid AFTER federal withholding

Ok, so what? What taxes fund those issues

Facts destroy your narrative

sorry address the treasury data

Sorry but facts aren't insults

You haven't addressed the links I gave you. So sorry but you are a typical liberal

Oh darn. I was about to address every point but then it got ugly at the end.

Anybody who enjoys being talked down to is an enabler for online abuse. Not interested.

 

[Conservative]

Oh darn. I was about to address every point but then it got ugly at the end.

Anybody who enjoys being talked down to is an enabler for online abuse. Not interested.

Then stop letting the left make a fool out of you

 

[jakiejakester]

Oh darn. I was about to address every point but then it got ugly at the end.

Anybody who enjoys being talked down to is an enabler for online abuse. Not interested.

I really appreciate your thoughtful and respectful replies to that poster. Sadly, his style is to try to intimidate and belittle and to repeat the same talking points endlessly and he does it without addressing your reply and instead attacks. I want you to know that others are reading what you're writing and agreeing with you!