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You already think anybody who doesn't tote the super-rich line is a fool.
What you want to ignore is how many of those "super" rich are actually Democrats and bureaucrats on the public dole.
For whatever reason you've really gotten under his skin today and he is attacking you personally in multiple posts. It's a true sign of his losing the debate to you and making him attack you rather than debating the topic.
You're 100% correct. Ask that poster about the election and he will not admit that Biden won and Trump lost. He will say that Biden is President but he believes that it was "stolen" and there was no way that Biden got the votes he did, especially in the battleground states.
And you have yet to accept the fact that Biden's policies have led to 8.5% inflation, 36% approval rating on the economy, 41% approval rating over all and 27% approval on the direction of the country. We are weak economically and in foreign policies but by all means keep up with that Trump hatred
Biden is what you get when you let hatred and emotion drive your decision making process
44% of Biden voters cast vote ‘against’ Trump, rather than in support of the Democratic nominee
Recent exit polling suggests 44% of Biden voters casted their votes for the Democratic nominee as a vote "against" Trump, rather than in support of the former vice president.www.masslive.com
There are many ways in which the Democrats (and the Republicans!) have gone off the deep end. Fiscal policy is not one of them. Biden's proposed budget is standard fare for a Democrat. It's not extreme, either in its size or its priorities. And as for "the largest tax increase in history"...yeah, every time there's a proposed tax increase Republicans make that claim. I don't doubt that there's some way you can mathematically spin the numbers to justify that claim, but it gets tiresome after a while.
Your parent's Democratic Party is dead
Long gone is the Democratic Party of your parents’ generation. They have morphed and contorted themselves into a political party no longer relatable or recognizable to most of America.www.foxnews.com
JFK said
And this is the Democratic Party that I supported for years, that party doesn't exist any more and shame on those who changed it
It's been dead for a long time.....Your parent's Democratic Party is dead
Long gone is the Democratic Party of your parents’ generation. They have morphed and contorted themselves into a political party no longer relatable or recognizable to most of America.
JFK said
And this is the Democratic Party that I supported for years, that party doesn't exist any more and shame on those who changed it
that's a lie and you know it but so what else is new. where did I deny that some on the right hate? I just get tired of the left pretending their shit don't stink. Do you hate white people and men?
"Even if it happened, I don't care."
Seems I am not alone, what is it about liberalism that creates total ignorance of results and such low approval ratings? Some people apparently live in their parents basement and are not affected by 8.5% inflation or poor economic policies and resultsI have yet to accept something which is entirely based on your own delusions and the Trump cult’s fanatical hatred of Biden for defeating your cult leader.
Gee, I wonder why?
Why do you support giving the federal gov't more of your money? any idea what that does to your state and local revenue?
You mean black people?Your parent's Democratic Party is dead
Long gone is the Democratic Party of your parents’ generation. They have morphed and contorted themselves into a political party no longer relatable or recognizable to most of America.
JFK said
And this is the Democratic Party that I supported for years, that party doesn't exist any more and shame on those who changed it
A better question is whether we should pay for government spending or borrow to fund it. In a high-inflation regime I'd prefer we not have a deficit. Or at least have a smaller one.
If you want a smaller government or a more localized government, then your focus should be on spending levels rather than taxation levels.
Ok but the issue is what spending, discretionary or mandatory and knowing the difference along with the taxes that fund those issues. That doesn't seem to be the case with far too many. FIT and CIT fund the discretionary budget which is the operating expenses of the country. There is more than enough FIT and CIT to fund that part of the budget according to Treasury which I have posted links to over and over again. The other issue is Mandatory spending which is SS and Medicare along with other entitlement obligations, those are funded by payroll taxes and that is where the problem is, not with FIT and CIT. We do not nor should we have a unified budget where every dollar is treated the same and all goes into one pot to fund all the expenses of the gov.t FIT and CIT weren't created for mandatory line items
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Our Founders created a small central gov't but over the years bureaucrats found a way to create career jobs and power. The power belongs at the state and local level. The problem with the left is they don't pay any attention to the state and local responsibilities and taxes always diverting to FIT and CIT Cuts blamed for the deficit, FIT and CIT cuts DON'T Cause deficits, they stimulate economic activity growing federal, state and local revenue
Ok but the issue is what spending, discretionary or mandatory and knowing the difference along with the taxes that fund those issues. That doesn't seem to be the case with far too many. FIT and CIT fund the discretionary budget which is the operating expenses of the country. There is more than enough FIT and CIT to fund that part of the budget according to Treasury which I have posted links to over and over again. The other issue is Mandatory spending which is SS and Medicare along with other entitlement obligations, those are funded by payroll taxes and that is where the problem is, not with FIT and CIT. We do not nor should we have a unified budget where every dollar is treated the same and all goes into one pot to fund all the expenses of the gov.t FIT and CIT weren't created for mandatory line items
BEA Interactive Data Application
apps.bea.gov
Discretionary and Mandatory budget line items
U.S. Federal Budget Breakdown
The FY 2022 federal budget proposal was over $6 trillion, with an estimated revenue of about $4.2 trillion, creating a deficit worth about $1.9 trillion.www.thebalance.com
Our Founders created a small central gov't but over the years bureaucrats found a way to create career jobs and power. The power belongs at the state and local level. The problem with the left is they don't pay any attention to the state and local responsibilities and taxes always diverting to FIT and CIT Cuts blamed for the deficit, FIT and CIT cuts DON'T Cause deficits, they stimulate economic activity growing federal, state and local revenue
No, Our FOUNDERS Didn't bureaucrats in DC over the years have expanded the gov't. Where did you get your civics and history education? You made the statement now prove it
Being a public forum this was in response to Post 215 but is also a post to you who always claims that tax cuts cause deficits as do most of today's Democrats. That is blatantly false as FIT and CIT don't fund Medicare and SS, Payroll taxes do so if there is a shortfall ;payroll taxes are what needs to be increased or create another tax to fund those entitlements
It doesn't explain your support. The video defines the party you support which apparently makes you part of the problem