Trump Launches War On Iran

[ElChupacabra]

That is incorrect. Some of the Ayatollahs were the main part of the coup.

Glad to see you're making some progress from the earlier "the Ayatollahs" to "some of the Ayatollahs".

I'm taking your word for it. But since I do not directly know for myself that it is true, I have to word my sentences to allow for the possibility that it isn't.

You shouldn't have to. Read up on it.

It wasn't their things. That oil belonged to the UK.

It was on their land as an independent country.

Colonialism is just a nonsense word that pirates concocted to try to justify piracy.

It isn't, and one can certainly argue colonialism itself was a form of piracy.

 

[CLAX1911]

Fears over Iran’s missing 400kg of uranium

Iran claims to have smuggled almost all of the country’s highly enriched uranium to a secret location before the US launched strikes on its nuclear bases.

www.yahoo.com

Any evidence to this? Forgive me for not trusting Iran.

 

[JANFU]

What don't we know?

Well it seems logical that uranium enrichment would happen at uranium enrichment sites. And it seems possible that given their ability to build bunkers that a bunker buster to follies of Bunker busters actually would penetrate it.

I doubt they had much forewarning about this attack. And probably couldn't logistically move a significant amount of enriched uranium.

So either everything to conspiracy or what happened happened.

They did move it before the US attack
I informed you of that

 

[Chomsky]

The deep underground nuclear weapons facility required the BGU-57, which only the US has, and only the US has bomber aircraft to deliver it on target.
It was pretty clear that the US needed to 'jump in' to deliver that to have the destruction of those facilities.

If we wanted to put the exclamation mark on, then yes.

I'm watching News Nation, and they are reporting we still don't know if we actually destroyed the facilities, nor do we know where the nuclear material is/was.

So there's many in this thread making assumptions that the U.S. Military and IAEA cannot.

Consider this article:

(WBEZ) Satellites show damage to Iran's nuclear program, but experts say it's not destroyed

 

[JANFU]

Any evidence to this? Forgive me for not trusting Iran.

Trump said Iran's nuclear sites were 'obliterated,' but questions remain about enriched uranium

Inspectors should be allowed to “account for the stockpiles of uranium, including, most importantly, the 400kg enriched to 60%,” the head of the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[phoenix2020]

You know, it's actually starting to look like you might be right.

Did you see his Tweet to Russia, several posts up?

He sounds like he's having a nervous breakdown.

Yeah that was a weird missive, even by Donald’s standards.

He’s sounding somewhat… unhinged.

 

[Plasmaball]

The deep underground nuclear weapons facility required the BGU-57, which only the US has, and only the US has bomber aircraft to deliver it on target.
It was pretty clear that the US needed to 'jump in' to deliver that to have the destruction of those facilities.

We didnt need to, we chose to

 

[Chomsky]

Any evidence to this? Forgive me for not trusting Iran.

There's the IAEA, CLAX1911:

(WBEZ) Satellites show damage to Iran's nuclear program, but experts say it's not destroyed

 

[Chomsky]

They did move it before the US attack
I informed you of that

We don't know that for sure, but it is quite possible.

As of yet, neither the U.S. Military nor IAEA can verify the attack accomplished its goal.

Here's another cite to this:

(WBEZ) Satellites show damage to Iran's nuclear program, but experts say it's not destroyed

 

[Desert Storm]

 

[lolbert]

Now that I am free, I will give my thoughts on this conflict. I think it was a mistake to bomb Iran. Thomas Massie is right to oppose this war, and Trump made an unconstitutional and reckless decision by bombing Iran. He has betrayed and disappointed so many of his anti-war supporters, including me and Thomas Massie, and I hate to see Donald Trump become George W. Bush 2.0. That being said, hopefully this conflict continues to de-escalate, and we were wrong to assume Trump started WWIII, but even if he didn't start WWIII, I am still mad at Trump for attacking Thomas Massie and would happily vote for Thomas Massie to replace him as president.

 

[ElChupacabra]

US/Europe do not want Iran with nukes

I don't think anyone does, including people within Iran. If North Korea could develop nuclear weapons under the conditions it did, Iran probably could have as well. I don't think they failed to do so just because they didn't have the means.

Did Trump jump the gun on the attack. Yes his fan ego decided this. Should have used diplomacy but not lasting months

The JCPOA took years to negotiate, so this taking a bit depending on what each party wanted is not unreasonable, especially since there was already a framework.

 

[CLAX1911]

Trump said Iran's nuclear sites were 'obliterated,' but questions remain about enriched uranium

Inspectors should be allowed to “account for the stockpiles of uranium, including, most importantly, the 400kg enriched to 60%,” the head of the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog said.

www.nbcnews.com

So prove this 400 kg of enriched uranium isn't just a fabrication of the news media.

 

[CLAX1911]

There's the IAEA, CLAX1911:

(WBEZ) Satellites show damage to Iran's nuclear program, but experts say it's not destroyed

NPR is an absolute garbage source have something better please.

 

[Chomsky]

Yeah that was a weird missive, even by Donald’s standards.

He’s sounding somewhat… unhinged.

He sounds loose.

And he seemed edgy & uncomfortable when he announced the attack.

Today a media pundit claimed they know when Trumped is stressed, by the quantity and quality of his Tweets. I believe that.

 

[JANFU]

So prove this 400 kg of enriched uranium isn't just a fabrication of the news media.

Do you know what you can do?
Prove the head of IAEA was lying
Do something useful
Facts are not scary. Well for some

 

[CLAX1911]

Do you know what you can do?

It's not my burden to do anything or prove anything you're the one with the claim.

 

[CLAX1911]

They did move it before the US attack
I informed you of that

With NBC's claim. You have the burden of proving that claim correct.

 

[bubbabgone]

I swear there are reactions from some people here who I actually respect to some extent, but they seem to be grasping at straws, hoping that none of what we’ve seen over the last few days has actually happened.
Put another way, they sound like they’re desperately hoping for the worst as long as it doesn’t help Trump.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

This is how the Trump administration described its attack on Iran.

"The target was obliterated."

Axios reports, "Iran launched multiple missiles against an American military base in Qatar on Monday in retaliation for the U.S. strike on its nuclear facilities this weekend."

This is how the Trump administration described the Iranian attack on an American base, and the media cooperated fully.

"The ballistic missiles missed or were intercepted. No one was killed. No one was hurt. There was no damage. It was symbolic attack, and now Iran is through. Iran will not attack Americans again."

This could all be true, but, after so many lies and fantasies over the past ten years from Trump, Americans are likely to greet this assessment with a good deal of skepticism.

In accordance with Trump's orders, the United States attacked Iran, and Trump would have us believe that Iran will accept one and done.

Would we? Would any nation?

Or is this wishful thinking on Trump's part? Trump has a lot at stake here -- like his Presidency. Americans are not in the mood for another Middle East war. We have had our fill with Iraq and Afghanistan -- two of our longest wars.

 

[CLAX1911]

I swear there are reactions from some people here who I actually respect to some extent, but they seem to be grasping at straws, hoping that none of what we’ve seen over the last few days has actually happened.
Put another way, they sound like they’re desperately hoping for the worst as long as it doesn’t help Trump.

Cutting your nose off to spite your face is a saying for a reason.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

NBC reports, "Hailing the American strikes on Iran as a success, President Donald Trump said late Saturday that the Islamic Republic’s key nuclear sites were “completely and fully obliterated.”

"But despite his bullish claims, the extent of the damage to the deeply buried facility at Fordo, as well as sites at Isfahan and Natanz, is unclear and almost 400 kilograms, or 880 pounds, of uranium enriched to 60% are publicly unaccounted for. Power plants require the radioactive metal to be enriched to only 3%-5%, whereas 90% is required to build a nuclear warhead.

"Jeffrey Lewis, an American expert in nuclear nonproliferation and a professor at the California-based James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, said on X that he was “unimpressed” by both the U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran because they “failed to target significant elements of Iran’s nuclear materials and production infrastructure.”

"Iran’s highly enriched uranium “was largely stored in underground tunnels” near the Isfahan site, he said. But despite extensive American and Israeli attacks on the facility, he said, “there does not seem to have been any effort to destroy these tunnels or the material that was in them.”

 

[Chomsky]

NPR is an absolute garbage source have something better please.

Wrong.

NPR is one of the most accurate news orgs on the planet:



Source:

NPR (National Public Radio) - Bias and Credibility

LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording

mediabiasfactcheck.com

But, I'll accommodate you with another reputable source -

Here:

Satellite images show extent of US bombing damage to Iran nuclear sites

Experts looking at satellite images of Fordo, Isfahan and Natanz give a first damage assessment

abcnews.go.com

 

[CLAX1911]

NBC reports, "Hailing the American strikes on Iran as a success, President Donald Trump said late Saturday that the Islamic Republic’s key nuclear sites were “completely and fully obliterated.”

"But despite his bullish claims, the extent of the damage to the deeply buried facility at Fordo, as well as sites at Isfahan and Natanz, is unclear and almost 400 kilograms, or 880 pounds, of uranium enriched to 60% are publicly unaccounted for. Power plants require the radioactive metal to be enriched to only 3%-5%, whereas 90% is required to build a nuclear warhead.

I'm curious as to this 400 kg of enriched uranium missing who reported this?

"Jeffrey Lewis, an American expert in nuclear nonproliferation and a professor at the California-based James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, said on X that he was “unimpressed” by both the U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran because they “failed to target significant elements of Iran’s nuclear materials and production infrastructure.”

His opinion is noted.

"Iran’s highly enriched uranium “was largely stored in underground tunnels” near the Isfahan site, he said. But despite extensive American and Israeli attacks on the facility, he said, “there does not seem to have been any effort to destroy these tunnels or the material that was in them.”

How does he know better than the military where the uranium is stored?

 

[CLAX1911]

Wrong.

NPR is one of the most accurate news orgs on the planet:

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Source:

NPR (National Public Radio) - Bias and Credibility

LEFT-CENTER BIAS These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording

mediabiasfactcheck.com

So your consulting the ministry of Truth on how factual fires at NPR are so the lawyers at NPR pay the idiots at the ministry of Truth to give them a good score or they own it.

But, I'll accommodate you with another reputable source -

Here:

Satellite images show extent of US bombing damage to Iran nuclear sites

Experts looking at satellite images of Fordo, Isfahan and Natanz give a first damage assessment

abcnews.go.com

ABC is a Disney property that's like trusting RJ Reynolds on whether or not cigarettes give you cancer.

I skimmed through the trash Disney article and they're just posting gossip from X. This is why they needed to create a separate wing of their own company and call it a fact checker because they just report on gossip from X.