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Trump Launches War On Iran

Oh, I agree.

But if Trump surgically bombs, seemingly ending both the ongoing nuke program and ongoing hostilities, why would he not be looked upon kindly?
I'm personally more concerned with the reaction of other threshold states that may be watching and reconsidering their stance in light of what's happened in Ukraine and Iran. Think Taiwan, South Korea....
 
Oh, I agree.

But if Trump surgically bombs, seemingly ending both the nuke program and hostilities, why would he not be looked upon kindly?
Trump announces ceasefire.
Iran denies receiving any ceasefire proposal.

CNN reports ceasefire talks going on.

I'll wait till the Guns of August go silent.
 
He finished the Israeli job in a surgical manner, quickly and with no loss of life or equipment, ending the hostilities, and leaving the region nuclear-development-free.

There of course are many detractors such as myself. But if peace indeed occurs, I think looking back in time Trump will get good regards.
Iran is far from nuke development free.
This is 1 step of many
 
TACO has continually been failing on his "diplomatic" attempts. See: Ukraine, Greenland, Israel/Gaza and publicly whined that he wasnt getting a NPP.

So he reversed course to the opposite...war. :rolleyes: Gotta get that recognition and attention somehow.

Yeah - but for whatever reason, he took the off-ramp after the Iranian attack, so you gotta' give him that.
 
Yeah - but for whatever reason, he took the off-ramp after the Iranian attack, so you gotta' give him that.

True if he's not going to make a retributive attack based on Iran's attack on our facility today.
 
Again, we don't know what we accomplished.
Because we have no idea what bunker monsters are capable of and how deep these underground facilities are and there's just no way of knowing that?
We don't know if the active areas suffered damage, nor do we know if the enriched materials were even there.
Do you know how difficult it would be to move uranium in the dead of night and not be seen by satellites?
If the U.S. military, Israel, and the IAEA don't know, how is you purport to?
Don't know what?
 
I wasn't sure what you were supporting. Thanks!
OK.

However even if just wishing for a regime change, we have no idea what may emerge? It could be ISIS, for all we know?
Glass 1/2 full or glass 1/2 empty?

But in that case, yeah - I too would like to see a change to a better governance. Though I'm surely not going to suggest we go in and try to do it, nor am I going to say it's likely. I suspect these unilateral unprovoked attacks have solidified & unified the Iranian people and their government.

The good news is it appears America's involvement in this saga may be over.
Agreed, provided the cease fire holds, and there's progress at the negotiation table towards a more peaceful ME.

Unless you-know-who changes his mind,
Who, or what, makes you believe such foolish ideas?
Might they be the same sources as the ones who are saying that Trump bombed Iran's nuclear facilities 'on a whim?'

which would be horrendous.
 
Its 2:30am right now in the middle-east, maybe we'll hear confirmation tomorrow??

Well . . .

. . . we've got *Trump* talking about the *Middle East*!

That's far from fait accompli!
 
First, we have to hope that the ceasefire exists. Neither Iran nor Israel have confirmed any such thing, and we know that Donald likes imagine things in his head. (He also claims to have 200 trade deals "completely done" weeks ago that nobody has heard any examples of.)
He's like King George III, the 'mad king'.

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True if he's not going to make a retributive attack based on Iran's attack on our facility today.

Correct.

We saw his Tweet, so we need to see if he's done.

My gut feeling is he's happy he (believes) he took-out the centrifuges, happy the Iran counterattack had no ill effect, and most happy to have gotten out of this thing unscathed!
 
Because we have no idea what bunker monsters are capable of and how deep these underground facilities are and there's just no way of knowing that?

Do you know how difficult it would be to move uranium in the dead of night and not be seen by satellites?

Don't know what?

They don't know what, if anything, they accomplished.
 
Its 2:30am right now in the middle-east, maybe we'll hear confirmation tomorrow??
We may need to wait until tomorrow for Iran and Israel to be made aware of the ceasefire. It wouldn't be surprising if the whole thing was made up by Donald Trump with no participation by either Iran or Israel.
 
OK.


Glass 1/2 full or glass 1/2 empty?


Agreed, provided the cease fire holds, and there's progress at the negotiation table towards a more peaceful ME.
Who, or what, makes you believe such foolish ideas?
Might they be the same sources as the ones who are saying that Trump bombed Iran's nuclear facilities 'on a whim?'

Trump! He's erratic.
 
I'm going to wait for this guy to come to the podium in the press room to tell us the truth. I trust his word over anyone in the Trump administration right now.
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I'm going to wait for this guy to come to the podium in the press room to tell us the truth. I trust his word over anyone in the Trump administration right now.
Yeah, the best thing to do is wait to see if anybody actually stops shooting. In terms of clear announcements by either Iran or Israel, as of this post the only data point we have is that Israel expanded the evacuation zones in Tehran after Trump announced the ceasefire.
 
We've got to understand the Iranian populace's perspective on what occurred:

Iran was unilaterally & unprovokingly attacked by their arch-enemy. Then the U.S., an entity they see as all-powerfully meddling, joined-in.
Hardly 'unprovoked', given Iran's behavior in the region since Biden has taken office.
Again, who's giving you such foolish ideas?

Of course they're furious. Why wouldn't they be?
 
We may need to wait until tomorrow for Iran and Israel to be made aware of the ceasefire. It wouldn't be surprising if the whole thing was made up by Donald Trump with no participation by either Iran or Israel.

You know, it's actually starting to look like you might be right.

Did you see his Tweet to Russia, several posts up?

He sounds like he's having a nervous breakdown.
 
You know, it's actually starting to look like you might be right.
So there were no bombs there were no bombers and there was no nuclear facility is there even an Iran?
Did you see his Tweet to Russia, several posts up?

He sounds like he's having a nervous breakdown.
Yeah I think dropping bombs on our country probably something that weighs hard on you.
 
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