Trump Jan 2018 UK visit canceled.

[JasperL]

A retweet seems to me to say: I think you might like to see this vid.

That might be true for you and me, but when POTUS does it, it acts like an endorsement. And, again, the proof is in the pudding - she got nearly 40,000 (from around 50k to 88.4k as we speak) new followers from the priceless PR by Trump. You're trying to argue against the evidence of what DID HAPPEN.

 

[JasperL]

Not at all, if you stop and think about it.

You're making broad brush claims with no evidence. If you'd like to support any of your claims with some evidence, then I might 'think about it' some more. The media haven't been completely fair to Trump, but they've never been completely fair to any POTUS in living memory, including Obama, and Bush and Clinton and Reagan.

It is my considered view that Trump has made his own bed in this regard and revels in the kind of attention the media have given him. If not he's a particularly stupid person, such as on this issue. If he didn't anticipate and want the negative attention from retweeting inflammatory videos put out by a hate group, well, the "stupid" allegation proves itself, doesn't it?

 

[joG]

That might be true for you and me, but when POTUS does it, it acts like an endorsement. And, again, the proof is in the pudding - she got nearly 40,000 (from around 50k to 88.4k as we speak) new followers from the priceless PR by Trump. You're trying to argue against the evidence of what DID HAPPEN.

That he should not be tweeting is trivial and true. Getting upset and ranting every time he he says something unpresidential is immature.

 

[joG]

You're making broad brush claims with no evidence. If you'd like to support any of your claims with some evidence, then I might 'think about it' some more. The media haven't been completely fair to Trump, but they've never been completely fair to any POTUS in living memory, including Obama, and Bush and Clinton and Reagan.

It is my considered view that Trump has made his own bed in this regard and revels in the kind of attention the media have given him. If not he's a particularly stupid person, such as on this issue. If he didn't anticipate and want the negative attention from retweeting inflammatory videos put out by a hate group, well, the "stupid" allegation proves itself, doesn't it?

If you don't recognize the difference between the medial treatment of say Obama and Trump, you have a problem.

 

[digsbe]

trump need to be removed as President...He is a loud mouth ass hole...plain and simple

So was Obama, and we were stuck with that fool for 8 years.

Remember folks, many of the people that support this imbecile thought Obama made the country an international embarrassment.

But Trumos behavior is A-Ok to these people.

Trump is a dumpster fire while his supporters are the kindle.

Obama made the country weaker and allowed evil to flourish under his weak inaction. It also further allowed foreign powers to abuse the US, especially in terms of defense.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Donald Trump?s 'working visit' to UK dropped as tensions with Theresa May grow over president's far-Right retweets


Hard to host a man who supports the most radical elements of our society and is just so unpredictable.

Let's not forget Trump has raked the hell out of the British government, suggesting they are fools, criticized the police handling of a terrorist attack while sirens were still blaring and most recently and for about the fifth time has called out the Lord Mayor of London.

If he's such a ****ing rube and acts like a donkey why would anyone want him in their country.

I have a feeling we won't be seeing him in Canada either, not without some serious kind of street action.

 

[JasperL]

That he should not be tweeting is trivial and true. Getting upset and ranting every time he he says something unpresidential is immature.

This is not just being "unpresidential," though. That's a laughable attempt to minimize what he did, which was retweet inflammatory, anti-Muslim videos put out by a hate group. And it just DID promote the interests of that bigoted anti-Muslim group. If we don't take that seriously, we're not taking our obligations as citizens seriously. It's not, or shouldn't be, acceptable.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Doubtful...President Obama received a heroes welcome...trump?...Stay the hell away

There were threads upon threads reaming him for having touched the queen! It went on for days when later he kept going with his toast while the band played God Save the Queen.

The one I really found fascinating is when it was discovered the Obama family favored "Yukon Gold" potatoes from Canada.

Now, this ass hole can pick on mothers of dead soldiers in a twitter war and those same people of protocol still champion him at every opportunity.

Trump has failed to obtain a legislative victory in congress, yet they're on about his "accomplishments"

 

[JasperL]

If you don't recognize the difference between the medial treatment of say Obama and Trump, you have a problem.

Of course there is a HUGE difference, but that's largely because Obama acted completely differently, in nearly every substantive way. There was a HUGE difference between how the media treated Bush II versus Trump. HUGE.

Well, IMO the fault there is with Trump....

"It is my considered view that Trump has made his own bed in this regard and revels in the kind of attention the media have given him. If not he's a particularly stupid person, such as on this issue. If he didn't anticipate and want the negative attention from retweeting inflammatory videos put out by a hate group, well, the "stupid" allegation proves itself, doesn't it?"

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

He's respected it as nuch any other president.

Holy cow. May I send you a history book for Christmas?

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

Maybe the Prime Minister should worry about the fact that 16.7% of the UK population will be Muslim by 2050 if current levels of immigration continue, I am sure that will do nothing to help the current security situation.

You're suggesting that Muslims are a problem.

 

[MAGAnificent]

We have always took our fair share given our comparative size and have followed you into a number of conflicts without batting an eye. This has nothing to do with our commitment to America and what she stands for, this is about not standing behind Trump.

Your commitment to America involves standing behind America no matter who it's present leader is. Having a tantrum over Trump's tweets just makes the UK look rather small. We have always stood with the UK whether your prime minister is librul or conservative.

 

[MAGAnificent]

No upright people need respect a president who embraces bigotry and white supremacists.

Trump does not respect bigotry or white supremacists. That is insanely dumb DNC talking points.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Most Americans are more humble than some of the idiots you see in this forum. We also consider ourselves part of a cooperative global community, not the world's overlords.

Cooperative where it serves our purpose, but not to the point of giving up our soveriegnity to a bunch of blowhards in the UN or the EU. No to globalization.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Yeah, thanks for that clarification.

After reading a little more, it seems there was quite a bit of push-back in Britain, so the administration backed-off.

Same result, though. But not officially withdrawn by the Brit government, just by the U.S. If anything, I've noticed Trump is quick to avoid conflict. He views everything he does as a PR event, and won't put himself in any event that may give him push-back.

And why should he? If the Brits do not appreciate a state visit, why visit them? We can work with them through diplomatic channels.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

So was Obama, and we were stuck with that fool for 8 years.



Obama made the country weaker and allowed evil to flourish under his weak inaction. It also further allowed foreign powers to abuse the US, especially in terms of defense.

Is that so? Please elaborate.

 

[Yes_Minister]

The Germans would have wiped Russia out, if not for the US

Unlikely, Russia has never been sucessfully invaded and Hitler's blunders were legendary in that campaign. If the US was not in the war, there would have been more deaths on the Soviet side, but they would have won.

Also Canada would not have existed if the US won the war of 1812, so it seems like the fact that Canadian settlers did not want to be American in 1812 ensured Canada's existance.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Obama did that exact thing.

Yes......Obama even interfered in one of their elections, basically telling them on their own soil that if they did not vote the way he wanted in regards to Brexit, any trade deal with the Brits would be put on the back burner.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Obama was trying to accomplish something in both these cases. He wanted better cooperation from Putin and he wanted Castro to move Castro to move Cuba toward more political and economic freedom.

Which is why he restored diplomatic relations and eases sanctions without getting anything at all in return from the Castro Regime? Does Cuba have more political and economic freedom now?

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

Your commitment to America involves standing behind America no matter who it's present leader is. Having a tantrum over Trump's tweets just makes the UK look rather small. We have always stood with the UK whether your prime minister is librul or conservative.

I can't speak for Higgins, but this has nothing to do with liberal or conservative or any other politics. This is about human decency. America's president is entirely devoid of it.

It's a cowardly and bullyish act to insist on foreign support of our president when two thirds of our own citizens rightly find him an incompetent and dangerous fool.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I thought Trump was going to make America more respected around the world?

He is making America more respected around the world if you actually know what respect is. Clue: Kissing the asses of Europeans does not garner respect. Going along with the Europeans just to get along on ponzi schemes such the Paris Climate Accord and that insanely stupid Neville Chamberlain like nuke deal with the Iranians does not garner respect.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

Cooperative where it serves our purpose, but not to the point of giving up our soveriegnity to a bunch of blowhards in the UN or the EU. No to globalization.

You realize that we are humans before we are Americans, right? Nationalism is tearing apart the world more surely than anything you oppose.

 

[MAGAnificent]

I can't speak for Higgins, but this has nothing to do with liberal or conservative or any other politics. This is about human decency. America's president is entirely devoid of it.

It's a cowardly and bullyish act to insist on foreign support of our president when two thirds of our own citizens rightly find him an incompetent and dangerous fool.

Sorry...but you do not get to speak for two thirds of our own citizens. You can only speak for yourself and other TDS infected liberals. And Trump is demanding nothing. He is simply canceling a trip to the land of tea and crumpets.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

And why should he? If the Brits do not appreciate a state visit, why visit them? We can work with them through diplomatic channels.

That's the spirit. Blow off the outrage of our most important ally because our president doesn't deserve hurt feelings.

International diplomacy is evolving in the vacuum of the US's responsible leadership. We will be left behind forever because we cannot be taken seriously. Because our president is a dangerous and childish idiot.

 

[MAGAnificent]

You realize that we are humans before we are Americans, right? Nationalism is tearing apart the world more surely than anything you oppose.

Globalization is destroying Europe. That's why enough Brits wised up and voted for Brexit. They became tired of knuckleheads in Brussels deciding such things as immigration policy for the UK.