Tesla unveils $35,000-Model 3 with range of 215 miles (1 Viewer)

[poweRob]

Finally. Chevy is coming out with the Chevy Bolt probably before this Tesla and has around the same price and mileage range as well.

Tesla unveils $35,000-Model 3 with range of 215 miles

Tesla Motors gave a sneak preview Thursday of its Model 3 sedan, saying more than 130,000 people had ordered the car, even though it is more than a year away from production.​

 

[Ntharotep]

Now they just need to get their cars down to the 15k - 20k range to be competitive.

 

[joG]

Now they just need to get their cars down to the 15k - 20k range to be competitive.

You think? People that cannot pay more than $15.000 probably won't have the infrastructure at home to plug it in over night. That might even turn out to be limitation on the $ 35.000 crowd.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Finally. Chevy is coming out with the Chevy Bolt probably before this Tesla and has around the same price and mileage range as well.

Tesla unveils $35,000-Model 3 with range of 215 miles

Tesla Motors gave a sneak preview Thursday of its Model 3 sedan, saying more than 130,000 people had ordered the car, even though it is more than a year away from production.​

I wanted an electric car, so don't take this negatively.
I don't think the mileage listed is realistic.
It's going to be terrain and temperature based.

I almost bought a Nissan Leaf, but after seeing realistic reviews, the advertised mileage was more than real world.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

You think? People that cannot pay more than $15.000 probably won't have the infrastructure at home to plug it in over night. That might even turn out to be limitation on the $ 35.000 crowd.

A lot of these cars come with standard outlet plugs.
$35k is too much, imo.

 

[DA60]

Fantastic...IF they built it AND sell it for the advertised price.

Tesla has made lots of promises before that they did not keep.


As for GM...this is the same company that built the EV-1 and then destroyed every one they could get their hands on when California chickened out on the zero emission law.

My guess is it will be way over $35G and/or the range will be no where near 200 miles.


But, at least they are talking about it...which hopefully bodes well for the future.

 

[brothern]

Now they just need to get their cars down to the 15k - 20k range to be competitive.

I think that'll come with having their production lines completed and start realizing some economies of scale.
EG, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigafactory_1

 

[DA60]

I wanted an electric car, so don't take this negatively.
I don't think the mileage listed is realistic.
It's going to be terrain and temperature based.

I almost bought a Nissan Leaf, but after seeing realistic reviews, the advertised mileage was more than real world.

I heard that used ones had battery life deterioration so bad that they had ranges as low as 25-30 miles on a full recharge.

I love the idea of a cheap EV...but the Leaf is a joke imo (and I remotely thought of buying one as well).

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

I heard that used ones had battery life deterioration so bad that they had ranges as low as 25-30 miles on a full recharge.

I love the idea of a cheap EV...but the Leaf is a joke imo (and I remotely thought of buying one as well).

Yea, my round trip on a good day would barely make the estimated range I was reading about (approx 60 miles).
That doesn't account for the terrain or weather.

Some had good results, others not so good.

 

[brothern]

My guess is it will be way over $35G and/or the range will be no where near 200 miles.
But, at least they are talking about it...which hopefully bodes well for the future.

A lot of these cars come with standard outlet plugs.
$35k is too much, imo.

Yeah, we're probably still at this stage of electric cars:



It'll probably be some time still before the general consumer can afford the electric, self-driving maybe flying cars. :lol:

 

[poweRob]

Fantastic...IF they built it AND sell it for the advertised price.

Tesla has made lots of promises before that they did not keep.


As for GM...this is the same company that built the EV-1 and then destroyed every one they could get their hands on when California chickened out on the zero emission law.

My guess is it will be way over $35G and/or the range will be no where near 200 miles.


But, at least they are talking about it...which hopefully bodes well for the future.

Their other cars are getting well over 200 miles per charge so I don't know why it's not believable. They also say that the price is dependent on the gigafactory they built in Nevada getting up to speed and it is on target to do so. It's mass production of batteries is imperative to driving down the price to $35,000. And that price is before EV incentives you can get to lower the price.

 

[poweRob]

I wanted an electric car, so don't take this negatively.
I don't think the mileage listed is realistic.
It's going to be terrain and temperature based.

I almost bought a Nissan Leaf, but after seeing realistic reviews, the advertised mileage was more than real world.

Some people have complained about the Model S's range being lower than the advertised 230 miles per charge in the cold due to running heaters and such... but still long mileage.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Some people have complained about the Model S's range being lower than the advertised 230 miles per charge in the cold due to running heaters and such... but still long mileage.

Once I can get a reliable 200 miles (hills, mountains, cold, heater and a/c), with an around $15k price tag, I'd purchase one.
I'm not a fan of spending a huge amount on vehicles.

 

[poweRob]

You think? People that cannot pay more than $15.000 probably won't have the infrastructure at home to plug it in over night. That might even turn out to be limitation on the $ 35.000 crowd.

Interactive Tesla Supercharger Map - TESLARATI.com

Tesla has charging stations all over the country and charging is free for life.

 

[PoS]

Fantastic...IF they built it AND sell it for the advertised price.

Tesla has made lots of promises before that they did not keep.


As for GM...this is the same company that built the EV-1 and then destroyed every one they could get their hands on when California chickened out on the zero emission law.

My guess is it will be way over $35G and/or the range will be no where near 200 miles.


But, at least they are talking about it...which hopefully bodes well for the future.

I cant help but wonder about the conspiracy theory in my head that the car manufacturers and big oil are doing their best to see Tesla fail at this. I wonder if Elon Musk's company is in a make or break stage with this model coming out.

 

[DA60]

Their other cars are getting well over 200 miles per charge so I don't know why it's not believable. They also say that the price is dependent on the gigafactory they built in Nevada getting up to speed and it is on target to do so. It's mass production of batteries is imperative to driving down the price to $35,000. And that price is before EV incentives you can get to lower the price.

They said when the company was launched many years ago that they were going to build a $50K sedan and they still have yet to do that.

Tesla rolls out new sedan - CNN.com

 

[DA60]

I cant help but wonder about the conspiracy theory in my head that the car manufacturers and big oil are doing their best to see Tesla fail at this. I wonder if Elon Musk's company is in a make or break stage with this model coming out.

Oh, I am quite sure the majors want to see Tesla die.

ANd if Tesla ever brings the 35K, 200 mile car to production...I am guessing the majors will go all by building cars that deliberately undercut whatever Tesla does and sell them at a loss just to kill Tesla.

The majors are TERRIFIED of all electric cars.

 

[jonny5]

Finally. Chevy is coming out with the Chevy Bolt probably before this Tesla and has around the same price and mileage range as well.

Tesla unveils $35,000-Model 3 with range of 215 miles

Tesla Motors gave a sneak preview Thursday of its Model 3 sedan, saying more than 130,000 people had ordered the car, even though it is more than a year away from production.​

Whats the real price without taxpayer subsidies?

 

[Crovax]

Oh, I am quite sure the majors want to see Tesla die.

ANd if Tesla ever brings the 35K, 200 mile car to production...I am guessing the majors will go all by building cars that deliberately undercut whatever Tesla does and sell them at a loss just to kill Tesla.

The majors are TERRIFIED of all electric cars.

Even at $35k it's still not anything for major oil companies to be worried about. That's still $15K more than a gas sedan. People will endure a lot just to save 10 cents on a cola, they will endure just about anything to save $15k.

 

[winston53660]

I see Teslas all over my neighborhood right beside the Bentleys, rolls, Ferraris, etc

 

[poweRob]

Whats the real price without taxpayer subsidies?

$35,000

That's the price before the breaks.

$27,500 after current incentives.

link...

 

[Ikari]

So instead of gass we're using coal....

 

[Carjosse]

So instead of gass we're using coal....

Varies by location, states should not be using coal anyways.

 

[poweRob]

So instead of gass we're using coal....

Coal and petroleum are nose-diving while natural gas and renewables are escalating in filling those needs.

 

[Ikari]

Varies by location, states should not be using coal anyways.

Coal accounts for something like 1/3 of our energy production. Something like 2/3s is from fossils fuels. Our worst technology, energy wise, is battery technology. Storing energy, we're terrible at it. Turns out the best form of energy storage we have to this date is pumping water uphill.

So we're taking something we're terrible at, instead of using gas we use coal and other fossile fuels. I don't think that overall we're really doing anything grand with electric vehicles. When we improve energy production and storage, then i think if will start to become more impressive and will have a chance to actually make a positive difference.