Tea Party’s already won

[Captain America]

If they keep supporting candidates like this they may fizzle out by the end of the year.
YouTube - Christine O'Donnell's 90's MTV Anti-Masturbation Campaign

Too late. Beat ya to it. <no pun intended.> (Post #26 in the O'Donnell in Delaware poll thread)

Neener, neener....

Just goes to show that great minds think alike.

 

[cpwill]

If they keep supporting candidates like this they may fizzle out by the end of the year.
YouTube - Christine O'Donnell's 90's MTV Anti-Masturbation Campaign

let's see...

Miller is going to win in Alaska
Paul is going to win in Kentucky
Rubio is going to win in Florida
Lee is going to win in Utah
Scott Brown won in Mass
Tim Scott is going to win in South Carolina, as is Nikki Haley
Paul LePage is going to win in Maine
Sharron Angle and Harry Reid are too close to call right now, as are Carly Fiorina and Barbara Boxer.

so we'll discount those two races, assume O'Donnel loses, and that leaves the Tea Party batting 0.888.

 

[USA_1]

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so we'll discount those two races, assume O'Donnel loses, and that leaves the Tea Party batting 0.888.

And in your mind, that is a good thing? I always thought you were smart enough to see through the Tea Party BS. I guess I was wrong.
What is their slogan? "Take back America"? Just who do they want to take it back from? The military industrial complex? The investment banks? Corporate influence? Atheist losers?

 

[Travelsonic]

I don't know why, but despite wanting to see things change drastically from how they are now, I'm nervous that we're going to just swing right back to the other extreme instead of trying to find that proper balance I feel is achievable and necessary.

 

[Barbbtx]

Has the "Tea Party" managed to set up a national organisation with a leader

Why would they want to? They are quite successful as it is.
I think the fact that there is no leader and there are hundreds of loosely connected Tea Party chapters, bothers the left because there is no real target for them to attack.

 

[sokpupet]

As I stated earlier, and pardon me if I feel it bares repeating.. .. ..this is the same demographic group who they now seem to be railing against since they claim to be non-partisan. Let's use some common sense here.

Whatever the Tea Party began as has been hijacked by the biggest wackos in politics as evidenced by their candidates. You can't tell me there aren't some certifiably "sane" candidates for them to support. Why haven't they picked them? They are picking puppets, that's why. People like Angle and O'Donnell who can be swayed by the religious right. It is going to be disastrous.. .. ..and then the pendulum will swing. This is where we are now. A swinging pendulum which totally missed great candidates on either side because of discord, fomenting of lies and fear, and over-correction.

 

[USA_1]

Why would they want to? They are quite successful as it is.
I think the fact that there is no leader and there are hundreds of loosely connected Tea Party chapters, bothers the left because there is no real target for them to attack.

I think it bothers the right more than the left. Seeing that the Tea Party is a far right group, it pretty much is dividing the GOP. I fail to understand how that is a good thing for the republicans.

 

[Gabriel]

yeah, that's what they said about Reagan, too.

lmao.. so now Palin = Regan? what a pile of **** that is. lol.

 

[winston53660]

They are picking puppets, that's why. People like Angle and O'Donnell who can be swayed by the religious right.

A puppet? swayed? O'Donnell is the religious right there is puppetering or swaying going on.

 

[pragmatic]

I think it bothers the right more than the left. Seeing that the Tea Party is a far right group, it pretty much is dividing the GOP. I fail to understand how that is a good thing for the republicans.

Which specific tea party positions would you envision causing "moderate" GOP to cross the aisle and vote for the Obama Democrat?

Personally don't see the crippling divide in the Republican party that the media and the Left are trumpeting. What I do see is a wake up call for the current GOP office holders (and the Dems also for that matter) that a lot of voters are pissed about the irresponsible behavior we are seeing from Congressional leaders.....


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[Gabriel]

Which specific tea party positions would you envision causing "moderate" GOP to cross the aisle and vote for the Obama Democrat?

Personally don't see the crippling divide in the Republican party that the media and the Left are trumpeting. What I do see is a wake up call for the current GOP office holders (and the Dems also for that matter) that a lot of voters are pissed about the irresponsible behavior we are seeing from Congressional leaders.....


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Clearly there are elements of the GOP that do not like the tea party at all. Both reasonable republicans and even hardcore republicans see it as a negative. Reasonable ones have intellectual discourse with the tea party the hard core republicans are mainly just worried about optics. In both cases I see good reasoning. Palin and glen becks wacko tea party have some serious PR issues with the general public. I don't even have to make arguments about how ill suited their political ideas are. The tea party and republicans sub-sequentially are becoming more and more viewed as the sick boy of democracy globally. Moving towards "a complete joke" in every way. The development of the tea party and its inclusion in the American democratic process via the republican party should be an American embarrassment.

 

[Grim17]

Clearly there are elements of the GOP that do not like the tea party at all. Both reasonable republicans and even hardcore republicans see it as a negative. Reasonable ones have intellectual discourse with the tea party the hard core republicans are mainly just worried about optics. In both cases I see good reasoning. Palin and glen becks wacko tea party have some serious PR issues with the general public. I don't even have to make arguments about how ill suited their political ideas are. The tea party and republicans sub-sequentially are becoming more and more viewed as the sick boy of democracy globally. Moving towards "a complete joke" in every way. The development of the tea party and its inclusion in the American democratic process via the republican party should be an American embarrassment.

You need to change your Lean to liberal, then explain how come the tea party is only getting stronger, in spite of the non stop, baseless attacks by the left and their always faithful main stream media.

You are a classic example of someone that has no clue about what the tea party people are all about. You are either jumping on the BS propaganda bandwagon from the media, or you are knowingly spreading liberal BS. Either way, you have proven just how irrelevant your views are.

 

[TacticalEvilDan]

ATTN: Tea Party Fan-Boys and -Girls

Re: Moving the goal-posts

You guys can't keep declaring victory as an organization when you don't have an orgaization, and you can't claim to have met your goals when your goals were poorly defined (when they were defiend at all) to begin with.

Besides, what IS the "real" Tea Party, anyway? The disaffected libertarians who are claiming parenthood? The disaffected torch-bearing mob that followed? The politicians and political celebrities that realized there was money to be made on the backs of angry Americans?

 

[Gabriel]

You need to change your Lean to liberal, then explain how come the tea party is only getting stronger, in spite of the non stop, baseless attacks by the left and their always faithful main stream media.

You are a classic example of someone that has no clue about what the tea party people are all about. You are either jumping on the BS propaganda bandwagon from the media, or you are knowingly spreading liberal BS. Either way, you have proven just how irrelevant your views are.

I am pragmatic.. on all this I'm definitely liberal because the tea party and republicans have gone as far right as you can go.. Your a bunch of extremist and completely ideologically driven. Because of all that American politics looks completely ridiculous to outsiders. It really is a mess and a joke of a democracy with special interest bribing your democratically elected representatives being openly bribed by big business and lobby groups. Worst case is obviously the republican party.

Anyhow call me what you like politically speaking I don’t care. Just remember that when I say something you like to hear.

 

[USA_1]

Which specific tea party positions would you envision causing "moderate" GOP to cross the aisle and vote for the Obama Democrat?

Personally don't see the crippling divide in the Republican party that the media and the Left are trumpeting. What I do see is a wake up call for the current GOP office holders (and the Dems also for that matter) that a lot of voters are pissed about the irresponsible behavior we are seeing from Congressional leaders.....


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What irresponsible behavior? Do you mean the current administration trying to avoid a total economic collapse? Face it, had nothing been done and we went into another Great Depression you people would be just as outraged. Trying to save the nation is not irresponsible.

 

[Geo Patric]

cutting back the big government seems to terrify most those who gain power from big government or suckle at its teats

man... you are so good at reposting what someone spent time and effort on and appending a vulgar and uninformed opinion.... your mommy must be very proud of her little boy.

geo.

 

[USA_1]

man... you are so good at reposting what someone spent time and effort on and appending a vulgar and uninformed opinion.... your mommy must be very proud of her little boy.

geo.

I do believe he must be referring to entities like Haliburton, Balckwater, AIG, Goldman Sachs and ADM.

 

[obvious Child]

What irresponsible behavior? Do you mean the current administration trying to avoid a total economic collapse? Face it, had nothing been done and we went into another Great Depression you people would be just as outraged. Trying to save the nation is not irresponsible.

While few would doubt that there has been waste in the attempts to stabilize the economy, doing nothing or just cutting taxes would have been a gross failure to understand the underlying problems of the recession. Not a single detractor here so far has been able to explain WHY a financial/liquidity crisis is different from other recession. Not a single one. I ask and they run like cowards. Every single time. The level of ignorance on their part is astounding as is their arrogance in believing they can discuss the topic without even a basic grasp on the topic.

If Obama and Bush had let the banking sector go, we would without question, be in a depression. No country in the world can have a modern economy without a banking financial sector. And when interbank lending stopped, we were literally on the edge of the cliff.

While Keynesian spending and supply side tax cuts cannot ever fix a financial recession, they do at least blunt the pain. And you're right, if we had done nothing, Cole and others would be calling for Obama's head. Really, he can't ever win with these people. Even when he does pushes policies identical to Bush's 2001 package. In many ways, Obama is a Bush clone, but he doesn't get the same treatment on the same policies by the same people. By very definition, those people are hypocrites.

 

[obvious Child]

You need to change your Lean to liberal, then explain how come the tea party is only getting stronger, in spite of the non stop, baseless attacks by the left and their always faithful main stream media.

Karl Rove is a liberal and a leftist?

Really. That's news to me.

 

[TurtleDude]

I am pragmatic.. on all this I'm definitely liberal because the tea party and republicans have gone as far right as you can go.. Your a bunch of extremist and completely ideologically driven. Because of all that American politics looks completely ridiculous to outsiders. It really is a mess and a joke of a democracy with special interest bribing your democratically elected representatives being openly bribed by big business and lobby groups. Worst case is obviously the republican party.

Anyhow call me what you like politically speaking I don’t care. Just remember that when I say something you like to hear.

explain on policy issues what the Current GOP is more rightwing t han say Reagan's platform or Newt's CwA

 

[USA_1]

Which specific tea party positions would you envision causing "moderate" GOP to cross the aisle and vote for the Obama Democrat?




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Most republicans are moderates and they don't have to cross the aisle, all they have to do is stay home.