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Tattoo Checks Trip Up Visas

The "13" tattoo is more gang related, IMHO. Why morons do this and then claim "no affiliation" is amazing, these tattoos are used for cell block assignment in prison as well. If something can keep you out of the country or get you killed then just maybe it is worth looking into a bit deeper before you ink up.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The "13" tattoo is more gang related, IMHO. Why morons do this and then claim "no affiliation" is amazing, these tattoos are used for cell block assignment in prison as well. If something can keep you out of the country or get you killed then just maybe it is worth looking into a bit deeper before you ink up.
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Tattoos actually provide a lot of information if you know what to look for. A lot of gang intel is gathered by looking at a person's tats.
 
The presence of tattoos isn't enough to deny an application, according to a spokeswoman for the State Department's Bureau of Consular Affairs. She said "more attention has been paid to tattoos as indicators of a gang affiliation during the visa process" as law enforcement has better understood the relationship between "certain tattoos" and gangs. The department doesn't comment on individual cases, she said.

Makes perfect sense to me...........
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The "13" tattoo is more gang related, IMHO.
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In some cultures 13 is a lucky number. I know a few Sicilians with 13 tattoos who are not affiliated with gangs. My wife even wears a 13 pendant (she's sicilian as well) and last I checked, she's not in a gang.

Granted, I am assuming you simply mean a tattoo of the number here. If not, then I apologize for misunderstanding.
 
The last two paragraphs of the article provide the reason he should be permanently barred from the US to begin with (tattoos or not):

If Mr. Villalobos's request is denied, he and his family will have to decide their next step. His absence has been a strain. Without his income, Mrs. Villalobos, a stay-at-home mother, has canceled the family's health-insurance policy. She is relying on her mother for financial support.

Last year, Jim Neel, a retired postal worker in Lakewood, Colo., hired Mr. Villalobos to install a kitchen counter in his home. Recently, he tried to locate Mr. Villalobos for another job. "He doesn't come across as a gang member," said Mr. Neel, who said he noticed the tattoos. "He's soft-spoken."
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Also, Mr. Neel should receive a huge freakin' fine.
 
Character references, associations, and criminal history should all be assessed. As should the fact that the man went through legal channels to get into this country in the first place.

This man's case is ridiculous. Let him back in the damned country.
 
tessaesque said:
Character references, associations, and criminal history should all be assessed. As should the fact that the man went through legal channels to get into this country in the first place.
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Except he didn't. He's been here and working illegally for some time. He only returned home and tried to enter legally once he was married to a US citizen for long enough to give him cover.

tessaesque said:
This man's case is ridiculous. Let him back in the damned country.
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I say not. In addition, his employment history in the US should be investigated and all those who employed this goober should be heavily fined.
 
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clownboy said:
Except he didn't. He's been here and working illegally for some time. He only returned home and tried to enter legally once he was married to a US citizen for long enough.



I say not. In addition, his employment history in the US should be investigated and all those who employed this goober should be heavily fined.
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Where do you get that information from? The only mention of illegal residency is in relation to another man they cite for the article. Villalobos is never once accused of illegal residency in that article.
 
tessaesque said:
Where do you get that information from? The only mention of illegal residency is in relation to another man they cite for the article. Villalobos is never once accused of illegal residency in that article.
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Why else would he go back to be interviewed to gain legal status if he didn't have to?

The affected applicants are typically undocumented immigrants, such as Mr. Villalobos, who can qualify for legal permanent residency after marrying a U.S. citizen. Their applications are reviewed in their country of origin by U.S. authorities.
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Tucker Case said:
In some cultures 13 is a lucky number. I know a few Sicilians with 13 tattoos who are not affiliated with gangs. My wife even wears a 13 pendant (she's sicilian as well) and last I checked, she's not in a gang.

Granted, I am assuming you simply mean a tattoo of the number here. If not, then I apologize for misunderstanding.
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This is not "some cultures", there are many in prison, and on the streets that will act on that tattoo alone.

Link: Prison tattoo meanings, Jailhouse tattoos, Prison tattoo art, Bad tattoos
 
clownboy said:
The last two paragraphs of the article provide the reason he should be permanently barred from the US to begin with (tattoos or not):



Also, Mr. Neel should receive a huge freakin' fine.
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But the lefties ALWAYS say that illegal aliens do not compete for skilled work in the USA. That must be a misprint. ;-)
 
clownboy said:
The last two paragraphs of the article provide the reason he should be permanently barred from the US to begin with (tattoos or not):
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I know, right? What a horrible person to actually want to work and give a better life to his children!!!111!!!
 
radcen said:
Tattoo Checks Trip Up Visas

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Tattoos have meaning.If someone has a questionable tattoo then they should be more thoroughly investigated. Personally I think anyone seeking entry into the US should be thoroughly investigate.They should pass a health screening,criminal background check and checks to make sure they are not part of any terrorist groups, gangs or anti-American groups.Anyone who is in the country illegal should be permanently denied entry into the US regardless of who they marry.
 
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I know, right? What a horrible person to actually want to work and give a better life to his children!!!111!!!
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Wanting a better life for your children is no excuse to break the law.
 
Tucker Case said:
In some cultures 13 is a lucky number. I know a few Sicilians with 13 tattoos who are not affiliated with gangs.
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according to the Rugburns, it stands for marijuana.

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Tucker Case said:
I know, right? What a horrible person to actually want to work and give a better life to his children!!!111!!!
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What a pantload. When the guy first came here illegally he wasn't married and had no children. He didn't come here illegally for anyone but himself. If he cared he wouldn't have set his wife and her children up for this. He would have taken care of his illegal status BEFORE he got married and took on children.
 
clownboy said:
What a pantload. When the guy first came here illegally he wasn't married and had no children.
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But the fact that he got married and had children indicates that he planned on doing so. You've never taken action based on your future children?
 
Tucker Case said:
Yes it is.
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No, it is not. Who has EVER been found not guilty based on "I took it to feed my children" defense? This particular illegal alien was working in the US for years, so why is that a POSITIVE thing? Why should one that has illegally entered get "head of line" status? This is the biggest problem with our immigration law, that encourages illegal immigration. With numerous past amnesties and lax enforcement of federal immigration law we are a magnet for the world's wanderers.
 
Tucker Case said:
But the fact that he got married and had children indicates that he planned on doing so. You've never taken action based on your future children?
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That's even worse. You're supposing he planned on marrying and having children, putting them in a rock/hard place situation, from the get-go. That's not even close to defendable.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
No, it is not. Who has EVER been found not guilty based on "I took it to feed my children" defense?p
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Why on Earth do you think what the courts might do matters? Are you saying that you wouldn't break the law to feed your children?

My stance is anyone who wouldn't break the law in order to make sure their children can live a better life is a coward and a selfish piece of ****.

This particular illegal alien was working in the US for years, so why is that a POSITIVE thing?
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Because he was working and contribution to society. A great many Americans would be well served by following his example. It'd certainly flush the welfare rolls if more people were doing that.

Why should one that has illegally entered get "head of line" status?
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Because they had the balls to take huge risks in order to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps". It's a damned shame that they get vilified for actually doing that which so many conservatives in this country only pay lip service to.

This is the biggest problem with our immigration law, that encourages illegal immigration.
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Nonsense. I can tell you've never asked a single illegal immigrant why they came here illegally. I guarantee that none of them say "Oh, I'll just get amnesty at some point in the future". It's because they are in situations where waiting 6-10 years just to get a "no" isn't an option to them.

They often risk their lives to get here. They live in great fear of being discovered.

With numerous past amnesties and lax enforcement of federal immigration law we are a magnet for the world's wanderers.
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We are a magnet for the "world's wanderers" because we would not even exist without them.

The real problem in America today is that we allow people who live in a country that is absolutely oozing with opportunities squander those opportunities and then blame others for their own failures. Not only do we allow it, but we design our immigration laws to pander to that faux-victim group.
 
Tucker Case said:
Are you saying that you wouldn't break the law to feed your children?
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Feed children? I break the law if I gotta pee real bad and there's no restroom nearby.
 
clownboy said:
You're supposing he planned on marrying and having children, putting them in a rock/hard place situation, from the get-go.
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Rock and a hard place? Living as a US citizen?!?!? Where did you get that phenomenally silly idea? You really are clueless as to what the living conditions in some other countries can be, aren't you?

I'd gladly sacrifice my own life, let alone my freedom, in order to make sure my son wouldn't have to live in a place like Juarez Mexico or Mogadishu Somalia. What's truly indefensible is the person who wouldn't be willing to make such sacrifices.
 
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