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Russia Pulls Out of Nuclear Treaty in ‘Symmetrical’ Response to U.S. Move

So you are pro-Russia like Trump then. Why do you want to support and empower our sworn enemy? Got tired of the U.S. being #1?

Are you just trying to look stupid? You have done well! There is NOTHING that I have said that I says am "pro-Russia". Stop listening to your liberal rabble rousing news. They are only ones that are selling that crap. I spent 20+ years making commie lives miserable so you could sit back here and make stupid comments. IF you were a veteran, you clearly never left the mess hall.
 

Then you are twice as wrong for not seeing how Trump is weakening us and strengthening Putin's Russia. Do I need to spell it out for you once more?
https://themoscowproject.org/reports/putins-payout-10-ways-trump-has-supported-putins-foreign-policy-agenda/
 

LOL! Apparently you give a **** about Gavin Williamson since you feel the need to defend him now. (you're so predictable) As for trusting Mr Gavinson, I wouldn't be too sure.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-tennis-russian-billionaire-putin-minister-tory-donation-a8261871.html

"Boris Johnson defends playing tennis with wife of Putin's ex-minister in return for £160,000 Tory donation
Lubov Chernukhin also paid £30,000 to have dinner with Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson
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So Mr Gavinson tells the Russians to "go away and shut up" one week and then happily accepts money from them the next? Hmmm....well at least you may have to give them some credit for being somewhat more overt about it than the Trump people were. And Boris Johnson, Britains Mr Brexit too. Brexit was another pet project of Putin's, was it not?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/02/why-putin-wont-be-mad-about-trump-pulling-out-inf-treaty/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.19c0a8890237

"Why Putin won’t be mad about Trump pulling out of the INF Treaty"

 

My take was that Putin wanted out of that agreement, and Trump obliged.
 

so the arms raceN2 has begun , great news!! for how long bamboo - putlerstan can keep going against USA/WEST with its 1% of world GDP?

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...treaty-russia-follows-us-suspending-pact.html
 

Well, If President Trump was 'beholden to Russia", he would ignore the violations, leave the treaty in place and lie to the people that Russia isn't a threat..like Obama did.
 
Well, If President Trump was 'beholden to Russia", he would ignore the violations, leave the treaty in place and lie to the people that Russia isn't a threat..like Obama did.

No that is exactly what Trump is doing with the Russian ally N. Korea. Saying they are not a threat so they may continue with their WMD's unmolested by Chinese sanctions. He is withdrawing from this treaty first so Putin can claim he is not the aggressor and that we are too weak to confront him on his blatant violations. Part of Putin's goal is to legitimize his dictatorship. Also I missed the part where Trump has EVER called Putin or Russia a "threat". Got a link to that claim?
 
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Yeah, because Clinton, Bush and Obama put the brakes on the Nork nuke program...lol

Hell, the Norks benefitted from missile technology that Slick Willy GAVE to the Chicoms, in return for millions in campaign donations from the Chicom army.
 
Yeah, because Clinton, Bush and Obama put the brakes on the Nork nuke program...lol

Hell, the Norks benefitted from missile technology that Slick Willy GAVE to the Chicoms, in return for millions in campaign donations from the Chicom army.

So you agree with Trump that N. Korea is no longer a threat and are complicit with the Chinese claim that the Presidents summit made their sanctions no longer needed. I won't comment on your ridiculous CT that sounds like it came right out of the GRU troll farm.
 

It isn't a theory...

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/18/us/clinton-says-chinese-money-did-not-influence-us-policy.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy
 

Putin scrapped that agreement when he signed it into law. He has not lived up to the agreement from day one. But what did Obama do to stop that. NOTHING. In fact here was Putin's relationship was with Obama.


Putin told Obamafail to stay out of Crimea and he said yes sir. How stupid was that???
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Putin told Obamafail to NOT sell arms to Ukrainian and he said yes sir. How stupid was that.
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Putin told Obamafail to NOT put our missile defense shield in NATO, he again says yes sir. How stupid was that.
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Obamafail asked Putin of all people to certify that all of Syria’s WMD were taking out of Syria and Putin lied to Obamafail. How stupid was that?
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Obamafail told Russia that once he is reelected he can be more flexible to what Putin wants. How stupid was that. Obamafail loved Putin and did whatever Putin wanted. How stupid was that. Watch the video.
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https://video.search.yahoo.com/searc...4&action=click

Obamafail would not stand behind his RED LINE with Syria, Putin told him to stay away, and Obama jumped up and said yes sir.
 

More useless babbling about Obama
 
I'm not the one whose president is in bed with the Kremlin.


Do you understand the stupidity of your statement in a thread about Trump antagonizing the Kremlin?


That also goes for the rest of the weenie brigade who can't make up their mind because there's no wind today.
 



Looks like Putin made Obama his bitch and now Trump has to work twice as hard to put him back in his place.
 
Looks like Putin made Obama his bitch and now Trump has to work twice as hard to put him back in his place.

trump isn't working twice as hard at anything...Except running his fat mouth...Now go babble about "Obama" some more
 
There shouldn't be any doubt left in the minds of people that Trump is still doing Putin's bidding. Don't believe for a minute that the U.S. is pulling out of the INF treaty because Russia wasn't compliant. That's horse****.

The U.S. has justified what the Russians have done - which was to violate this treaty. What they really wanted was what Trump delivered to them by breaking the treaty. Now they can say, "no no no, the U.S. broke the treaty. All that was disinformation by the United States, we kept the treaty" Now Russia is free to further expand it's nuclear power and their domination in that region of the world.

Trump just gave Putin the 'Willy Wonka Golden Ticket' to nuclear dominance.

 

And what does that have to do with anything? Just how many u.s, satellites did China launch and why is that a problem? We are outsourcing our space program to private companies now anyway. China has followed suit too. Your whataboutisms have reached ludicrous speed


https://www.technologyreview.com/s/612595/china-launched-more-rockets-into-orbit-in-2018-than-any-other-country/
 
More useless babbling about Obama

Yeah it hurts, I know, but all you libs do is shove out useless babbling about Trump. You might try taking on policies rather that babbling.
 

Your argument, albeit clearly not of your making, is ludicrous. Virtually NOTHING you credit Trump with doing for Russia has any veracity, but merely the ranting of a liberal author, still butt hurt about the election. You do seem to have intimate knowledge of Putin's "goals". Maybe you are the one supporting Putin.
 
trump isn't working twice as hard at anything...Except running his fat mouth...Now go babble about "Obama" some more

There you go again, babbling, let's compare Obama vs Trump on policy.
 

This is terrible.

Before you know it they will have enough nukes to decimate the entire continent.
 

Bill Clinton takes campaign donations from the Chicom army and you don't see a problem? :lamo

So much for all your collusion crap.
 
Yeah it hurts, I know, but all you libs do is shove out useless babbling about Trump. You might try taking on policies rather that babbling.

"Useless babble" You mean like he's doing Putin's bidding? You might just benefit from paying attention to what's happening right before your eyes. While he drones on and on about the stupid wall, he's doing what's best for Trump & Family, not what's best for the United States.
 
This is terrible.

Before you know it they will have enough nukes to decimate the entire continent.

Cute, on an infantile level, but your post requires ignoring why the INF treaty was created in the first place.
 
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