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Occupy Wall Street vs The Tea Party

Ockham said:
Did he say Ghandi is a tumor? Are we sure these idiots don't have lead poisoning or something?
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Ockham said:
That the idiots are starting to run the sanitarium and get all the other non-idiots riled up.
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Ockham said:
Who's feeding them 3x a day? Where's the money coming from? Who's backing them and why?
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George Soros, who do you think? GOSH!
 
Mellie said:
Yeah, I agree. But I'm asking your opinion on his words. Are you in agreement with him that a violent revolution is inevitable in this country? Do you think violence is going to be necessary to accomplish the goals of these protesters?
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I'll answer the question after you've provided your own answer. At this point, I'm not interested in being drawn into a conversation with someone who has both tried to paint OWS as a violent socialist movement and refuses to explain her own position on an article she posted. That just screams "I'm getting ready to twist your words."
 
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theplaydrive said:
I'll answer the question after you've provided your own answer. At this point, I'm not interested in being drawn into a conversation with someone who has both tried to paint OWS as a violent socialist movement and refuses to explain her own position on an article she posted. That just screams "I'm getting ready to twist your words."
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I've never said they all are like that and I've already stated the obvious answer as to why I posted it.....because we're discussing the friggin OWS protests and this happened at one! LOL!
 
Mellie said:
I've never said they all are like that and I've already stated the obvious answer as to why I posted it.....because we're discussing the friggin OWS protests and this happened at one! LOL!
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I'm bored.
 
Mellie said:
Yeah, I agree. But I'm asking your opinion on his words. Are you in agreement with him that a violent revolution is inevitable in this country? Do you think violence is going to be necessary to accomplish the goals of these protesters?
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Do you think so, Mellie?
 
Mellie said:
I've never said they all are like that and I've already stated the obvious answer as to why I posted it.....because we're discussing the friggin OWS protests and this happened at one! LOL!
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It seems to me that you are afraid of the OWS protests ... if that's true, why?
 
I am not in agreement with these socialists and their solutions, so of course I don't think we need a violent revolution. You, pb?
 
pbrauer said:
It seems to me that you are afraid of the OWS protests ... if that's true, why?
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Not afraid of the protests, no. I am very wary of people like the man in that video and the influence they might have over useful idiots. These things need to be watched carefully and discussed frequently. We shouldn't just assume that all the protesters are your average American who just wants tax loopholes removed and bailouts stopped.
 
Mach said:
By agreeing with me that banks are not the only cause, nor the only primary cause, and providing further evidence that it is not only banks to blame, you do neither.
That you call that fact "fiction" when I write it however, is mildly annoying.
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You must not have read the article I linked to Mach. Because if you read the source I gave you it should be obvious to anyone that banking played a huge role in the meltdown. Go back and read it again---- with an open mind if you can.

Item #1 , 2, 6, 7 and 8 all had to do with banking. To a large extent so did 9 and 11 as well.

You used the word ANNOYING. That fits your refusal to see reality and evidence perfectly.

here is what pb said originally that got your attention

Um, who was responsible for the financial meltdown in 2008? Hint: They got bailed out?
Lies.
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and your response


To suggest it was banks that caused it, is absurd.
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You jumped to the conclusions it was all about banks instead of banks and Wall Street. As PB said - both got bailouts. And as i have provided the evidence you asked for, banks played a huge roll in the meltdown as did Wall Street.
 
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Mellie said:
Not afraid of the protests, no. I am very wary of people like the man in that video and the influence they might have over useful idiots. These things need to be watched carefully and discussed frequently. We shouldn't just assume that all the protesters are your average American who just wants tax loopholes removed and bailouts stopped.
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Same goes for Glenn Beck.
 
Mellie said:
Not afraid of the protests, no. I am very wary of people like the man in that video and the influence they might have over useful idiots. These things need to be watched carefully and discussed frequently. We shouldn't just assume that all the protesters are your average American who just wants tax loopholes removed and bailouts stopped.
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Yet, apparently you take what Glenn Beck says - hook line and sinker - Right, Millie?
 
You don't think some people have influence over others? Or you don't believe they really are socialists who want to take down our government?
 
Mellie/Josie said:
You don't think some people have influence over others?
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Yes I do, one of the is Glenn Beck. In my opinion, his rhetoric is more more dangerous than this guy

Or you don't believe they really are socialists who want to take down our government?
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I have no idea who this man is, nor do I know what he means when he says long live socialism. Socialism and capitalism are not mutually exclusive - we are a mix of capitalism and socialism.

What I do know, is that even if this group wanted to take down our government, it would be impossible. Please don't insult me with that Piven crap that Glenn Beck spews.

Here is what worries me:

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Josie said:
Not afraid of the protests, no. I am very wary of people like the man in that video and the influence they might have over useful idiots. These things need to be watched carefully and discussed frequently. We shouldn't just assume that all the protesters are your average American who just wants tax loopholes removed and bailouts stopped.
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So you would believe that is true for the Tea Party protestors as well?
 
Kali said:
He is now hawking a clothing line. He disgust me.
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He's probably just trying to sneak into popular use the Magic Mormon Underwear.

 
Moderator's Warning:
Cease the personal attacks, all, and stay on topic.
 
Kali said:
He is now hawking a clothing line. He disgust me.
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Was Beck ever known for his sartorial splendor? His webpage has a few T shirts - but that is all I can seem to find.
 
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Beck is not the topic of discussion I thought.... wasn't it OWS and the Tea Party movements?
 
pbrauer said:
Yes I do, one of the is Glenn Beck. In my opinion, his rhetoric is more more dangerous than this guy


I have no idea who this man is, nor do I know what he means when he says long live socialism. Socialism and capitalism are not mutually exclusive - we are a mix of capitalism and socialism.

What I do know, is that even if this group wanted to take down our government, it would be impossible. Please don't insult me with that Piven crap that Glenn Beck spews.

Here is what worries me:

8 killed in Calif. salon shooting - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com
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You're worried about violence, but not someone who is openly calling for it and gets a crowd cheering about it. You're more worried about the radio guy who calls for peace and who started a clothing line for charity. Yeah, that makes sense.
 
Gina said:
So you would believe that is true for the Tea Party protestors as well?
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Of course. We shouldn't assume any large group are all in lockstep. I've seen some incredibly stupid, bigoted tea partiers who also scream about their own revolution. They're just as dangerous as these revolutionaries in the OWS protests. Don't you think?
 
Josie said:
Of course. We shouldn't assume any large group are all in lockstep. I've seen some incredibly stupid, bigoted tea partiers who also scream about their own revolution. They're just as dangerous as these revolutionaries in the OWS protests. Don't you think?
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Thank you. There are some stupid, bigoted and dangerous people on both sides of the political spectrum. I agree. To ignore those sharing our basic political lean and dismiss them because they do, is dishonest.
To paint all those demonstrating, exercising their constitutional right to peacefully assemble, as stupid, bigoted and dangerous is being dishonest as well.
 
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