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Occupy Wall Street vs The Tea Party

Mellie/Josie said:
You're worried about violence, but not someone who is openly calling for it and gets a crowd cheering about it.
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Not in the least, I have faith in our country to keep us safe. I wonder why you worry about this?

You're more worried about the radio guy who calls for peace and who started a clothing line for charity. Yeah, that makes sense.
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You bet, he's the third most listened to talk show in the country and stories like this these:

Beck's Incendiary Rhetoric Has Motivated Threats, Assassination Attempts
 
Bardo said:
This won't remain a movement of witty signs and catchy chants. This is just the seed beginning to germinate.
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As soon as the polls show it's not catching on, the big money political backing this astroturf will dry up and it will shrivel away.
 
MrVicchio said:
As soon as the polls show it's not catching on, the big money political backing this astroturf will dry up and it will shrivel away.
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proof, please? exactly who is backing this?
 
liblady said:
proof, please? exactly who is backing this?
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There is nothing wrong with admitting that those with money who agree with the positions are giving to the cause. I'm not sure why this has become so controversial.

If there is a small protest, say something localized, it could be fully funded by a group that that one does not want to take up the defense. Say a strike funded by SEIU. With the OWS and the Tea Party, the protest was too large to simply be something people really don't believe in and are only there because someone is paying for them to be there.

Can we find examples of that? I bet we could. That doesn't negate the idea that there are very many people really pissed at what has gone on over the last however many years one wants to pick.

So the response is, yeah, there is likely outside money coming in but do you really deny that people really are pissed?
 
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1Perry said:
There is nothing wrong with admitting that those with money who agree with the positions are giving to the cause. I'm not sure why this has become so controversial.

If there is a small protest, say something localized, it could be fully funded by a group that that one does not want to take up the defense. Say a strike funded by SEIU. With the OWS and the Tea Party, the protest was too large to simply be something people really don't believe in and are only there because someone is paying for them to be there.

Can we find examples of that? I bet we could. That doesn't negate the idea that there are very many people really pissed at what has gone on over the last however many years one wants to pick.

So the response is, yeah, there is likely outside money coming in but do you really deny that people really are pissed?
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It is not merely that outside money is going in, but that outside money is responsible for both of these movements in the first place. The similarities between the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street in their initiation are almost as hilariously depressing as the similarities in how a supposedly informed populace react. When you look at the fingerprints on these so-called grassroots actions you will find that they are almost identical. All that has changed are some of the names and the proposals. What is especially comical is how both movements can be linked very closely to the Rockefeller family.
 
Demon of Light said:
It is not merely that outside money is going in, but that outside money is responsible for both of these movements in the first place.
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Sorry, I could not disagree more. It does not happen even with all the money in the world if people were not pissed at how things have been handled.

The similarities between the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street in their initiation are almost as hilariously depressing as the similarities in how a supposedly informed populace react. When you look at the fingerprints on these so-called grassroots actions you will find that they are almost identical. All that has changed are some of the names and the proposals. What is especially comical is how both movements can be linked very closely to the Rockefeller family.
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Never in the history of the country has D.C. looked out so blatantly for the needs of Wall Street over main street before.
 
Josie said:
Of course. We shouldn't assume any large group are all in lockstep. I've seen some incredibly stupid, bigoted tea partiers who also scream about their own revolution. They're just as dangerous as these revolutionaries in the OWS protests. Don't you think?
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No,. because when a rightwing politician uses violent rhetoric, the teabaggers vote for them. No one is voting for the ONE leftist advocating violence.

When the teabaggers make violent threats, all the rightwingers on DP defend it. No one is defending this guy on DP

This just proves that the right is more supportive of violence than the left is
 
Josie said:
‘Occupy Wall Street Journal’ (Full-Color, Free Newspaper) Is Funded by George Soros, the Tides Foundation, Code Pink and Michael Moore | Video | TheBlaze.com

http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-...rested-destruction-which-leads-gas-cha-2.html (post #70)

That's just for a start...
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1Perry said:
Sorry, I could not disagree more. It does not happen even with all the money in the world if people were not pissed at how things have been handled.
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I am not saying that the people are not pissed, but that does not mean they are going to form a mass movement and organization. That rarely happens anywhere without some elite backing.

Never in the history of the country has D.C. looked out so blatantly for the needs of Wall Street over main street before.
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So "blatantly" maybe not, but this is hardly new.
 
Josie said:
‘Occupy Wall Street Journal’ (Full-Color, Free Newspaper) Is Funded by George Soros, the Tides Foundation, Code Pink and Michael Moore | Video | TheBlaze.com

http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-...rested-destruction-which-leads-gas-cha-2.html (post #70)

That's just for a start...
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That's your evidence? Soros's arch enemy, Glenn Beck, says so??

I'm not saying Soros is or is not behind them, I haven't done any research to find out. I'm just sayin' .... Glenn Beck??
 
Demon of Light said:
I am not saying that the people are not pissed, but that does not mean they are going to form a mass movement and organization. That rarely happens anywhere without some elite backing.
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If someone with money and ideas can get things off the ground as opposed to just leaving the status quo, I'm O.K. with that. Look, Soros is a penishead. A pretty dispicable individual. He doesn't bother me though because he has spent countless millions to change the world as he would like to see it with virtually nothing to show for it.

IMO mostly because he's a huge hypocrite. I'm happy to use his money if he wants to give it away though.



So "blatantly" maybe not, but this is hardly new.
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No it is not new but it's got to rediculous levels.
 
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I have found the right wing coverage of the occupy wall street amusing to say the least. For the last 2 years we have heard the GOP and of course Fox news complain about the left wing media's treatment of the tea party and have applauded the tea party for asking questions. Now we have the occupy wall street movement and of conservatives have been anything but supportive. There have been several occasions on fox news where they have accused this movement of being nothing more than liberal troublemakers and anarchists and failed in my opinion to not only give these protests fair coverage but have also failed to find out what the end goa isl. Democrats who have come out and supported this movement have been accused of having a socalist agenda etc. Seems like there is one rule for the tea party and the GOP and a whole other set of rules for the rest of us.
 
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Oh goodness.... need anyone wonder why politicians are not flocking to support the OWS groups?

 
Thing is Ockham we can sit here all day and post pictures of the Tea party, OWS to show them as idots so what's your point?
 
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Ockham said:
Oh goodness.... need anyone wonder why politicians are not flocking to support the OWS groups?

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I think I had a shirt like that in 2nd grade.
 
Higgins86 said:
I have found the right wing coverage of the occupy wall street amusing to say the least. For the last 2 years we have heard the GOP and of course Fox news complain about the left wing media's treatment of the tea party and have applauded the tea party for asking questions. Now we have the occupy wall street movement and of conservatives have been anything but supportive. There have been several occasions on fox news where they have accused this movement of being nothing more than liberal troublemakers and anarchists and failed in my opinion to not only give these protests fair coverage but have also failed to find out what the end goa isl. Democrats who have come out and supported this movement have been accused of having a socalist agenda etc. Seems like there is one rule for the tea party and the GOP and a whole other set of rules for the rest of us.
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this is commonly called " the shoe is on the other foot ".

there is certainly a lot of unfair coverage of the OWS protest from conservatives... but let's not pretend liberals were fair in their coverage of the Tea Parties... they weren't.

i wish there was a ton more consistency from all sides on the matter... but I know my wishes are but a fantasy in the real world.
 
Higgins86 said:
I have found the right wing coverage of the occupy wall street amusing to say the least. For the last 2 years we have heard the GOP and of course Fox news complain about the left wing media's treatment of the tea party and have applauded the tea party for asking questions. Now we have the occupy wall street movement and of conservatives have been anything but supportive. There have been several occasions on fox news where they have accused this movement of being nothing more than liberal troublemakers and anarchists and failed in my opinion to not only give these protests fair coverage but have also failed to find out what the end goa isl. Democrats who have come out and supported this movement have been accused of having a socalist agenda etc. Seems like there is one rule for the tea party and the GOP and a whole other set of rules for the rest of us.
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I don't understand.....if you think so little of Fox News, why do you watch? I swear, they would close up shop if everyone that says they dislike them quit watching.

BTW, do you know what the end goal is?
 
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