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Obama’s Radical Past And his connection to socialism isn’t all ancient history

megaprogman said:
Given that I was born in 1978, I cannot say that I do. However, riots can be bad, this is not what I disputed. It was the idea that this will cause a riot that I found implausable.
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Well , You MIGHT remember that just prior to the 2008 Election that some US Cities Police were rathy edgy and Tactical Alerts were being quietly formulated "Just in case" a very close 2000 type outcome came to pass.

I really think it just might have occured if say a few States had Gone the other way and others undecided for 2 weeks or more.
 
Ned Racine said:
Well , You MIGHT remember that just prior to the 2008 Election that some US Cities Police were rathy edgy and Tactical Alerts were being quietly formulated "Just in case" a very close 2000 type outcome came to pass.

I really think it just might have occured if say a few States had Gone the other way and others undecided for 2 weeks or more.
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Can you point me to some articles?
 
Redress said:
And so you prove my point that labels can be deceiving and uninformative. Thank you. I would use that to suggest you not make assumptions.

Now, about defining your terms and explaining what you are trying to say clearly...
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There is REALLY nothing Wrong in making assumptiuons. If a Given individual is wrong then the accused gets at least a Good laugh. Once I was (on another Forum) accused of Being Jewish by a Rabid Anti Semite. It was laughable.

Generalizations are the Norm but just for the sake of arguement I see no difficulty in anyone explaining their past Votes in Major Elections and exactly Why (??)
 
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megaprogman said:
Can you point me to some articles?
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NOW - Let's make it Official - You were at the time following things rather closely and YOU never heard even a Whisper of this (??) Is that correct(??)
 
Ned Racine said:
YES, Blacks Voted for Obama. Most Blacks since really Voting in Heavy numbers since 1968 have Voted Democrat and the abscence of that solid reliable Vote would Finish of the Candidacy of Many Liberal Democrats in many States. Blacks taking a hike from the Party in a given Election means NO Way , Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri , New Jersey will give their Electoral Votes to the Democrat Party. Okay (??)
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So? I mean, even if what you say is true (not a given), so what? Aren't they Americans? Entitled to vote as they see fit? Why this cause riots? (and I do remember 68)
 
Ned Racine said:
There is REALLY nothing Wrong in making asumptiuons. If a Given individual is wrong then the accused gets at least a Good laugh. Once I was (on another Forum) accused of Being Jewish by a Rabid Anti Semite. It was laghable.

Generalizations are the Norm but just for the sake of arguement I see no difficulty in anyone explaing their pasdt Votes in Major Elections and exactly Why (??)
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Actually, assumptions and generalizations tend to create issues between people that are unnecessary. It's easier to ask what some one believes than to assume and it leads to better dialog. If you want to know how I voted in a particular election, or my thoughts on a particular issue, feel free to ask.
 
Ned Racine said:
NOW - Let's make it Official - You were at the time following things rather closely and YOU never heard even a Whisper of this (??) Is that correct(??)
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I had not heard about this or if I did, I forgot.
 
Redress said:
Actually, assumptions and generalizations tend to create issues between people that are unnecessary. It's easier to ask what some one believes than to assume and it leads to better dialog. If you want to know how I voted in a particular election, or my thoughts on a particular issue, feel free to ask.
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The Issues DO Exist. Everty now asnd then someone is unfairly labeled and as Atticus Finch once said " You never no a Man until You've Walked in His Shoes" Okay - bearing that in mind I can easily see why the Black Vote went for Obama as it did - just like I can see WHY Goldwater carried 5 Southern States in 1964.

I didn't like either for different reasons but it was as it was.

Now here's a Generalization that still Sticks. It applies. Obama has for 30 + years - Since a Stdent at that Prestige Hawaiin HS known exactly how to handle White Liberals. He knows how to Talk to them & what makes them tick . His brilliance in this category surpasses Jesse Jackson even.
 
megaprogman said:
Googling it, I found one article from a real media source (not newsbusters or freep or anything)

Police Prepare For Possible Election Night Riots - Horserace - CBS News

And it shows that police were preparing for a possibility of riots no matter who won.
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Would that be similair to the LAPD and nearby agencies in Oct. 1995 getting the word out for possible trouble in Orange County, Glendale, Oxnard, Santa Barbara, San Bernadino, Redlands. Escondodo, Temecula etc. IF OJ Simpson was acquitted (??) A little humor here.
 
Ned Racine said:
The Issues DO Exist. Everty now asnd then someone is unfairly labeled and as Atticus Finch once said " You never no a Man until You've Walked in His Shoes" Okay - bearing that in mind I can easily see why the Black Vote went for Obama as it did - just like I can see WHY Goldwater carried 5 Southern States in 1964.

I didn't like either for different reasons but it was as it was.

Now here's a Generalization that still Sticks. It applies. Obama has for 30 + years - Since a Stdent at that Prestige Hawaiin HS known exactly how to handle White Liberals. He knows how to Talk to them & what makes them tick . His brilliance in this category surpasses Jesse Jackson even.
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I somehow doubt you see just how hilarious this post is. As has already been pointed out, blacks tend to vote democrat, and that is why they tended to vote Obama. Comparing Obama's "brilliance" to Jesse Jackson is even funnier, and the conspiracy theory tops them all. The only thing missing is a Saul Alinsky reference.
 
There is NO Conspiracy . One is not necessary. Now if YOU really want to take a REALLY different view on this topic and display some possible genuine hope for the future - state emphatically that Obama's popularity has also gone down heavily among Blacks. That he will get a much smaller portion of that Vote in 2012.
 
Redress said:
I somehow doubt you see just how hilarious this post is. As has already been pointed out, blacks tend to vote democrat, and that is why they tended to vote Obama. Comparing Obama's "brilliance" to Jesse Jackson is even funnier, and the conspiracy theory tops them all. The only thing missing is a Saul Alinsky reference.
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I thought it was more sad than funny.
 
Ned Racine said:
There is NO Conspiracy . One is not necessary. Now if YOU really want to take a REALLY different view on this topic and display some possible genuine hope for the future - state emphatically that Obama's popularity has also gone down heavily among Blacks. That he will get a much smaller portion of that Vote in 2012.
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Edited: misunderstood what you said. In reality, no one knows how the 2012 election will play out.
 
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Redress said:
Edited: misunderstood what you said. In reality, no one knows how the 2012 election will play out.
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This is Where your integrity if not intelligence falls a bit short. I maintain that you have a pretty good idea exactly how certain areas and/or segments of this Nation and society will Vote.
 
liblady said:
who cares? i like his ideas, for the most part, and i don't care if he attended a conference in 1985.
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You may not care, and the Journolists may care and would assist burying these facts or weren't in the least motivated to discover and report them, but I believe the electorate should know, and deserve an explanation from the man that wants to run the country as to why he attended anti-American gatherings.

Jetboogieman said:
Obama's a Socialist! He's gonna kill your grandmother! He will install himself as a dictator as soon as he's elected! He's gonna take away our guns! Blah Blah Blah Blah.

Tired old arguments. How anyone can take the right seriously after their howling and screaming and shouting, after none of the above turned out to be true.
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Jet, I'm going to start calling you "Stretch". Nobody said he's going to install himself as a dictator (that's the Libs talking about Bush), but he is hostile to the 2nd Amendment.

These aren't tired arguments but getting to the core of who this impostor is. We really don't need to know he went to these socialist gatherings, as he's left quite the Socialist/Marxist trail in his wake, but it's useful to nail the coffin air tight.

We should know who our leaders are, even if it is after the fact.

Redress said:
They did select some one early. They where wrong too, Clinton lost.

This thread is hilarious. National Review made a 2 page story out of some meeting Obama went to when he was 22(hint: that was 27 years ago), and then a thread was made about it, and then the race card got thrown out, and it's just going downhill.
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It's more than a mere story, it's a book. You know, like the ones Obama wrote years back as a young man that folk like you slobber over.

It would be one thing if he went and wasn't exhibiting Alinsky traits, and wasn't praised by his son, or didn't inhale toxic waste from Wright, or work with Ayers, or start his political career from his casa... but he did and he does. He didn't divorce himself from these idiots... he embraced them!

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zimmer said:
Like we didn't know he was a socialist, but it's nice to dig up a little more of his background for there are still some "bitter clingers" who claim otherwise.

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What!? Socialist!? Socialist! Socialist! Oh My God! Someone, Call 911! We've Got a *SOCIALIST* here! Wait, screw 911, call McCarthy! Police, arrest that man! He's a *gasp* SOCIALIST!
 
namvet46 said:
here's the reason we're in deep sh** !!!!
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No, it's more a probnlem that non-thinkers turn any little thing into a sign they have a communist. For pete's sake, get an orginial idea and at least use an immaginative silly attack.
 
How about this for a suggestion. How about those defining themselves as Liberals here and who presumably Voted for Barry in 2008 to State clearly how they will Vote next time. OR at least state where they are disapointed in Obama OTHER than his not pulling out fully from Iraq & Afghanistan.

I don't think this requires too much concentration.
 
How can some one clearly state how they will vote when you aren't really sure who the Republicans running will be?
 
soccerboy22 said:
How can some one clearly state how they will vote when you aren't really sure who the Republicans running will be?
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Let's let You Start out . Did YOu Vote for Obama in 2008 and is there ANY Republican presently around who YOU might consider Voting for over Obama (??) Not really too hard this one.
 
Jetboogieman said:
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Obama's a Socialist! He's gonna kill your grandmother! He will install himself as a dictator as soon as he's elected! He's gonna take away our guns! Blah Blah Blah Blah.

Tired old arguments. How anyone can take the right seriously after their howling and screaming and shouting, after none of the above turned out to be true.
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John wayne gacey was a democrat, should we "take the left" as a bunch of murdering pedophiles based on the actions/opinions on one of them?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
John wayne gacey was a democrat, should we "take the left" as a bunch of murdering pedophiles based on the actions/opinions on one of them?
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I think alot more right wingers think obama is a socialist than there are left wingers that are pedos.
 
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