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Obama’s Radical Past And his connection to socialism isn’t all ancient history

I've NEVER caimed on any Forum not to be biased. It's a part of life. However in 2008 the MSM early on made their selection. It stunned HRC and probably matured her. It was also indicitive of how we have slipped as a Nation.
 
Well, since I don't really see a connection between those two things (black voting and lame duck status), I am going to rely on you to tell me what you are thinking.

I think that YOU do see some connection , and while it's hypothetical I do believe his core support (mostly noncerebral) will stand with him no matter what . Under any & all circumstances.
 
I think that YOU do see some connection , and while it's hypothetical I do believe his core support (mostly noncerebral) will stand with him no matter what . Under any & all circumstances.

Ok. While there has been a history of presidents having a core demographic that will stand by them no matter what. What does this have to do with Obama's real personality and lame duck status?
 
I've NEVER caimed on any Forum not to be biased. It's a part of life. However in 2008 the MSM early on made their selection. It stunned HRC and probably matured her. It was also indicitive of how we have slipped as a Nation.

Your biased opinion aside, just because you don't get the news you want doesn't mean anyone other than you are biased. News should not affirm your belief system, at least not as a requirement. Truth should not be subject to your biased approveal.
 
I've NEVER caimed on any Forum not to be biased. It's a part of life. However in 2008 the MSM early on made their selection. It stunned HRC and probably matured her. It was also indicitive of how we have slipped as a Nation.

They did select some one early. They where wrong too, Clinton lost.

This thread is hilarious. National Review made a 2 page story out of some meeting Obama went to when he was 22(hint: that was 27 years ago), and then a thread was made about it, and then the race card got thrown out, and it's just going downhill.
 
They did select some one early. They where wrong too, Clinton lost.

This thread is hilarious. National Review made a 2 page story out of some meeting Obama went to when he was 22(hint: that was 27 years ago), and then a thread was made about it, and then the race card got thrown out, and it's just going downhill.

I just want to know WTF Ned Racine is trying to refer to and why he will not come out and say what he thinks.
 
I just want to know WTF Ned Racine is trying to refer to and why he will not come out and say what he thinks.

I think Ned is saying the Media is liberal and picks our presidents(like Bush for 8 years) and blacks are all racist, but I could be wrong.
 
They did select some one early. They where wrong too, Clinton lost.

This thread is hilarious. National Review made a 2 page story out of some meeting Obama went to when he was 22(hint: that was 27 years ago), and then a thread was made about it, and then the race card got thrown out, and it's just going downhill.


Just to clarify things (from your perspective) I think it can be assumed that being "Very Liberal" that against almost ANY Republican YOU will Vote for him (???) Is that correct(??) and this First term and it's almost Pandemic Polarization will not affect your outlook (??)
 
I just want to know WTF Ned Racine is trying to refer to and why he will not come out and say what he thinks.


If he loses , and it's at all close (and I suspect it will be) he won't go out easily and you might see a few incidents of Civil unrest break out , and possibly as Bad as April 1968 if anyone here remembers.
 
Just to clarify things (from your perspective) I think it can be assumed that being "Very Liberal" that against almost ANY Republican YOU will Vote for him (???) Is that correct(??) and this First term and it's almost Pandemic Polarization will not affect your outlook (??)

Please explain what you mean by "Pandemic Polarization".

By the way, making assumptions is a very bad idea. It's best to discuss what is said, not what you assume some one might, maybe, possibly do. It makes your arguments actually effective.
 
I think Ned is saying the Media is liberal and picks our presidents(like Bush for 8 years) and blacks are all racist, but I could be wrong.


THEY ARE NOT ALL RACIST - but in 2008 they mostly Voted for him and would have under any and all circumstances. This will not change much in 2012. If you specifically claim different - I'd like to hear it.
 
Please explain what you mean by "Pandemic Polarization".

By the way, making assumptions is a very bad idea. It's best to discuss what is said, not what you assume some one might, maybe, possibly do. It makes your arguments actually effective.

Hey, Just any type denial will do. I'm not choosy.
Anybody who puts up "Very Liberal" as part of their heading leaves themself open to pointed speculation.
 
Hey, Just any type denial will do. I'm not choosy.
Anybody who puts up "Very Liberal" as part of their heading leaves themself open to pointed speculation.

As opposed to very conservative who wouldnt?
Seriously?

THEY ARE NOT ALL RACIST

Oh theyre racist! NOT ALL OF THEM THOUGH im sure there are some good ones. :roll:

You're a moderate that deserves some pointed speculation of your lean at this point.
 
THEY ARE NOT ALL RACIST - but in 2008 they mostly Voted for him and would have under any and all circumstances. This will not change much in 2012. If you specifically claim different - I'd like to hear it.

And they mostly vote for democrats. In fact, in about the same proportion. So your hinting that race had something to do with it is silly in the extreme.
 
Hey, Just any type denial will do. I'm not choosy.
Anybody who puts up "Very Liberal" as part of their heading leaves themself open to pointed speculation.

So does some one who puts up "moderate" in exactly the same way. The reality is that labels rarely tell the whole story.

I note you did not bother to define your terms though.
 
If he loses , and it's at all close (and I suspect it will be) he won't go out easily and you might see a few incidents of Civil unrest break out , and possibly as Bad as April 1968 if anyone here remembers.

I knew it had to be something off the wall.
 
And they mostly vote for democrats. In fact, in about the same proportion. So your hinting that race had something to do with it is silly in the extreme.

GWB against Kerry cracked into Double Digits with Blacks (11%) better than the Clinton years obviously . But Kerry was a Northern White Liberal Patrician Snob.

Obama got carried along in the 2008 Primary's by the Black Vote in States that normally do not go Democrat , but it gave him an edge over HRC to secure the nomination. I expect this to be the same when it gets to be 2012.
 
You seriously think you can come to these conclusions without an extensive study?
 
So does some one who puts up "moderate" in exactly the same way. The reality is that labels rarely tell the whole story.

I note you did not bother to define your terms though.


I'm not a Gun Guy , not a Right to Lifer, and I'm against the Calif. Three strikes Law, I believe there are too many in Prison, that a solid 1/3 are of no Danger to anyone. They are Substance abusers, Petty Thieves and Mental Defectives.

Moderate therefore might apply.
 
GWB against Kerry cracked into Double Digits with Blacks (11%) better than the Clinton years obviously . But Kerry was a Northern White Liberal Patrician Snob.

Obama got carried along in the 2008 Primary's by the Black Vote in States that normally do not go Democrat , but it gave him an edge over HRC to secure the nomination. I expect this to be the same when it gets to be 2012.

Gore got 95 % of the black vote, Dukakis and Mondale 90 %, and Clinton about 85 %. You are trying to create something not there.
 
They did select some one early. They where wrong too, Clinton lost.

This thread is hilarious. National Review made a 2 page story out of some meeting Obama went to when he was 22(hint: that was 27 years ago), and then a thread was made about it, and then the race card got thrown out, and it's just going downhill.

The hyper partisan is always willing to suspend disbleif and go down any road, no matter how illogical. It's not new. Sadly.
 
I'm not a Gun Guy , not a Right to Lifer, and I'm against the Calif. Three strikes Law, I believe there are too many in Prison, that a solid 1/3 are of no Danger to anyone. They are Substance abusers, Petty Thieves and Mental Defectives.

Moderate therefore might apply.

And so you prove my point that labels can be deceiving and uninformative. Thank you. I would use that to suggest you not make assumptions.

Now, about defining your terms and explaining what you are trying to say clearly...
 
Do YOU remember April 1968 (??) Had to Ask.

Given that I was born in 1978, I cannot say that I do. However, riots can be bad, this is not what I disputed. It was the idea that this will cause a riot that I found implausable.
 
You seriously think you can come to these conclusions without an extensive study?



YES, Blacks Voted for Obama. Most Blacks since really Voting in Heavy numbers since 1968 have Voted Democrat and the abscence of that solid reliable Vote would Finish of the Candidacy of Many Liberal Democrats in many States. Blacks taking a hike from the Party in a given Election means NO Way , Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri , New Jersey will give their Electoral Votes to the Democrat Party. Okay (??)
 
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