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No, you can't be a terrible human being and be a good president.

<alt>doxygen said:
The first one in that list is courtesy of his 1.3 trillion budget and the GOP's 3.8 trillion tax cut. Fueling an economy with borrowed money is not an accomplishment. NK accepted Trump elevating them to his level and gave nothing in return. Likewise, China is still a problem.

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Not only is China still a problem, but Trump is putting farms out of business with his attempt to play chicken with China.
 
I think history will be the best judge of Trump's presidency. He is likely to be a one term president who did lasting damage to our institutions of democracy. His presidency will be looked at as a dark chapter in American history.
All we can do now is argue among ourselves. The first evidence of Trump's historical place will be in 2020 if his presidency lasts that long.
 
Luckyone said:
You evidently are only using the economic yardstick with Trump and that means you too need more of an education, at least from the point of view of morals, ethics, principles and humanity.

Evidently and for a large portion of the population (you included), money is the God you follow. Nonetheless, for others (like myself), honor, respect, humanity are more important and cannot be replaced with money. Money is a lot easier to obtain than honor, respect and humanity, meaning that it takes hard work to accomplish them, not only for yourself but for others to see it in you. You literally could win the lotto tomorrow and be rich for the rest of your life but you cannot do the same with honor, respect and humanity. For those, they can only be earned and not won.

Trump does not represent any of those values. He is immoral, unethical, has no principles and lacks humanity. He has no empathy so the only thing he know what to do is what is bring out the greed that we all have some of in us. Greed is evil.

The 7 mortal sins that exist in people (avarice, envy, wrath, sloth, gluttony, lust and pride), are clearly evident in Trump. He is an avaricious person to the nth degree, he shows wrath all the time with his constant anger toward anyone that is not like him or that does not like him, he is envious of Dictators like Putin and Jong-un that have their nations totally doing what the leader wants them to do, he shows sloth inasmuch as most of the time in office he spends it golfing (he only works 6 hours a day 5 days a week even though he said he would spend all the time working if elected), he shows gluttony as he is definitely overweight and last but not least, he is the most prideful person that I have ever seen. He needs to be lauded by his minions every day.

As such, Trump shows all the 7 mortal sins that exist in life and that means he is an evil man.

If you can't see that clearly, it likely means that you are like him.
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Pure fantasy....I did not read any further.
 
Luckyone said:
Of course you didn't (continue to read). Truth is not what you want to hear.
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Truth is exactly what I want to hear but sadly we Truth Tellers are now a rare breed.

We used to be better.
 
Casca XV said:
Sure. that's why Obama was an epic failure.
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Just because you want to believe that doesn’t make it true.

He was re-elected and we had the longest streak of job growth in history. Those are facts. Your feelings are your feelings.

Trump will be a one term president if he even makes it that far.


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markjs said:
Yeah "hearts of gold" want exonerated black kids executed anyway cuz they're guilty of something, right? Too bad you don't have the capacity to see how dumb your posts are.

Donal Trump doesn't do antyhing except to benefit Donald Trump. Hearts of gold don't run fake charities and get sued for it.
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Yeah, internet memes are so reliable. :lol:
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Truth is exactly what I want to hear but sadly we Truth Tellers are now a rare breed.

We used to be better.
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You can't find truth if you don't read and learn. Truth is not found within ourselves.
 
Amelia said:
Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.
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I agree and I always say that if you're going to make something great you should be great and that would not be Donald Trump.
 
OscarLevant said:
I agree and I always say that if you're going to make something great you should be great and that would not be Donald Trump.
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People thought Clinton was a bad president because he got a blow job.
 
gulfman said:
Bill Clinton was and still is a disgusting pig and people thought he was a good President.Trump has a lot of catching up to do to match him.
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Yeah like shtupping a pornstar and covering it up while his newlywed just gave birth?

Like 30 years of money laundering with russian oligarchs?

Like screwing thousands of people out of millions of dollars during his past business exploits?

Like being unable to complete a compound sentence and sounding like a fourth grader?

And the list goes on

Sorry, Trump passed Clinton years ago in the vile Department.
 
ipsofacto said:
There was no perjury. Who is feeding this lie to you?
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A contempt of court order by Chief U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright and a complaint from the Southeastern Legal Foundation led to the Arkansas discipline. The president was found guilty of lying about his sexual relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky in testimony for Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit against him...

Perjury.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2001/nov/10/20011110-031024-7822r/
 
Fledermaus said:
A contempt of court order by Chief U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright and a complaint from the Southeastern Legal Foundation led to the Arkansas discipline. The president was found guilty of lying about his sexual relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky in testimony for Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit against him...

Perjury.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2001/nov/10/20011110-031024-7822r/
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Nothing about perjury there.
 
No, you can't be a terrible human being and be a good president.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

def: It is not possible to produce something refined, admirable, or valuable from something which is unrefined, unpleasant, or of little or no value.

Synonym

You can't polish a turd.

You can't gold plate **** ( :) no matter how hard trump tries)

"Nothing comes from nothing, nothing ever could"

djt is a worthless (not talking about money) POS without character or any redeeming value/values.<-Period

Everyone that's hoped otherwise has been disappointed.
 
Trump is only morally bankrupt if you have enough moral integrity to care.

At least we know the kinds of people Republicans admire.


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Fledermaus said:
What is lying under testimony?

Perjury.

per·ju·ry
/ˈpərj(ə)rē/Submit
noun

LAW
the offense of willfully telling an untruth in a court after having taken an oath or affirmation.
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No it is not. Perjury is a specific offense and not the same as lying. Clinton was never convicted of perjury.
 
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